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  • Why did history forget about ARMS until now? The game is an underrated gem. It just needs to be expanded on.
    JDCabrera
    JDCabrera
    It sadly didn't sell as well as expected.

    Hopefully a potential sequel does doh.
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    Splatoon 2 happened to be on the same console as ARMS. It ain't hard to figure out.
    LAA9000
    LAA9000
    This is old news by now, but ARMS sold 2 million copies as of 2018, and has likely gone on to sell more (though I can't find any reliable source for this), meaning it sold pretty well for a new IP. The problem is that Nintendo supposedly expected it to sell as well as Splatoon 2 (which has sold 11 million as of 2020), so they pretty much consider it a failure.
    What if Pyra was a Mii Brawler costume and Mythra was a Swordfighter costume?
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    >Pyra
    >Brawler

    I know I haven't exactly played XB2, but I'm pretty sure Pyra would be better suited as a Swordfighter costume if she must be a Mii costume.
    Likes: Shroob
    Shroob
    Shroob
    They'd both be Swordfighters tbh, since, ya know, they're a sword.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    But Pyra almost never uses her sword in XC2 and Rex is known for using it while she's known for not having a weapon in her hands.
    If Sora were to join, the Mickey chain on his Keyblade would be replaced with a Smash symbol chain. References to non video game characters are not allowed in Smash.
    Shroob
    Shroob
    But he's also not a video game character. While characters like Jessie and James have been in video games, the only thing Ash has ever appeared in is Pokemon Puzzle League, which was NA exclusive(Because it was a reskin of another game).
    Wario Wario Wario
    Wario Wario Wario
    Isn't one of Cloud's alts literally taken from an animated movie?
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    The movie is still Final Fantasy related and the alt was invented for the Final Fantasy IP. Mickey was not invented for Kingdom Hearts, he was invented for his own cartoon series.
    I've got to be more positive when I talk about things. I spend too much time being negative. Spring Man can wait until Smash 6 if he can't be in Ultimate's DLC. I can be content with Min Min.
    I love how they made Min Min work in Smaah by using the A and B buttons to use her left and right arms. It's fitting because Smash and ARMS both focus on two attack buttons.
    If Geno joins, his stage should be Bowser's Keep. We need a Bowser Castle stage anyway.
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    I'm about 99% certain that would be the case, seeing as the staff likes going after the first thing you see in a game.
    Franauts
    Franauts
    That would be amazing, I imagine that if it were the case, there would be a mechanic with the 2 chandeliers held by Chomps, when these Chomps accumulate damage they drop the chandeliers, at some point the sword would fit into the castle during full battle. I know that the forest is a more representative place for Geno, but I think that would be boring.
    Sakurai always considers the poster boy of a game when deciding what character to take from said game. He must not have considered Spring Man because he's already an assist trophy.
    Smash is still a Nintendo crossover. 3rd party characters are guests of honor.
    Spring Man being playable in Smash would have boosted ARMS sales than Min Min being playable in Smash will. Just saying. Since Spring Man takes up most of ARMS's box art, more people will recognize him.
    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    How does recognizability make people want to buy a game? This argument makes no sense.

    It’s like saying more people would buy Tetris if the T block was in Smash than if the O block was in smash because the T block is on the game’s logo
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    Some Smash fans are more likely to buy a DLC character they know than a character they don't know.
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    You realize that applies for EVERY SINGLE VIDEO GAME CHARACTER IN EXISTENCE, let alone the ones in Ultimate, right?
    Robin got picked over Chrom in Smash 4 even though Chrom is the protagonist of Awakening but Robin is still the 2nd most important character in Awakening and he's a very close 2nd. You might even say Chrom, Robin and Lucina are the three main characters of Awakening so the protagonists first rule still stands.
    Did Captain Falcon get a job at at the Mintendo Noodle House at the end of the Min Min trailer?
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    Did the water just splash when I threw a rock in? Of COURSE he did, couldn't you tell?
    Pokelego999
    Pokelego999
    Coming to Nintendo Switch: Captain Falcon's Ramen Noodle Shop, the best noodle shop simulator in years!
    Though it's great that we're getting Min Min. I'm still heartbroken that Spring Man's chances of joining Ultimate are ruined but if we're very lucky, he'll be FP11.
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    What would consist of a Spring Man Fighter Pack 11? We have basically most of the music that would be included plus not to mention Spirits (we have yet to see them but for real, we are sure to get most of the remaining cast). As well, we already have Spring Stadium. Would Spring Man have Ramen Bowl? It would make no sense. I would consider Spring Man such a stretch that even I’m sure it would break his springs if he tried to reach that far. I’m pretty sure most people would not be happy to get a second ARMS Rep in Fighter’s Pass Vol 2.
    RetrogamerMax
    RetrogamerMax
    I honestly think Spring Man or another Arms rep ain't getting in until Smash 6. It's still possible in Ultimate if Season Pass 3 happens but that's unlikely.
    What if the ARMS character is a Hero situation where Spring Man is the default and Ribbon Girl, Min Min and Springtron are alts for him? They can all use each other's gloves and Spring Man, Ribbon Girl and Springtron could be able to kick opponents like Min Min does.
    Did Nintendo appreciate it when Sakurai mentioned the XBOX in the Banjo presentation and encouraged Nintendo's customers to play XBOX?
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    I'd imagine so. I mean, they collaborated to bring over Cuphead on Switch. It's not like they act like Sony, or anything...
    Zachmac
    Zachmac
    Didn't someone at Nintendo once say they don't see XBOX/Playstation as competitors since Nintendo usually tries to offer something different to them?

    It was probably just PR talk, but there may have been some amount of truth to it.
    RetrogamerMax
    RetrogamerMax
    I think Nintendo is the best gaming company when it comes to negotiating with others and building a solid relationship. Sony doesn't do this as well because they're not a gaming company but a entertainment one that is in all certs of fields like tvs, computers, movies, and games. Surely, Sony cares more about money than it's fans compared to Nintendo who like to be direct and open with it's fans.
    It's June and Vol. 2 was released in January. How do we STILL not know who the first character is? You'd think there would be at least a Joker styled trailer for the first character by now, but no.
    Shroob
    Shroob
    "How do we still not know"

    You can thank Covid for ****ing that up.
    Cyborg Sun
    Cyborg Sun
    Even taking COVID out of the picture, Volume 2 was always meant to be slower, while it is giving us one more character than the previous one, it's meant to go until December of 2021. Plus, we at least know fighter 6 is from ARMS? But COVID may have slowed things down even more, yes.
    ARMS 3rd anniversary just so happens to be next Tuesday and Tuesday is when Nintendo usually lets us know about Smash related news. June 16th is probably when FP6 will release.
    I've realized that Microsoft is still a competitor to Nintendo even though the two companies are friends now so we might as well have a Sony rep too. The question is, which Sony rep? Kratos can't join unless he appeared in the Nintendo console version of a different game on a Nintendo console.
    Wario Wario Wario
    Wario Wario Wario
    PaRappa would be my choice. Kratos or Ratchet are the most likely through. I don't think any Sony game characters have appeared on Nintendo consoles except Q*Bert, who isn't owned by Sony's gaming division anyway, he's owned by their film division.
    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    I know you probably get comments like this a lot, but there's no way that fan rule can be true. "Only Nintendo characters" was a similar fan rule once. Using the Joker example, if he's truly only in Smash because of Persona Q2 why isn't the game itself represented in Smash? Besides, Sakurai has stated that Smash is a celebration of gaming history, not Nintendo history.
    Why does Smash only have one character that belongs to a non Japanese company? Smash is made by a Japanese company is not an excuse for this. At all. There's tons of western franchises Japan likes, so that means they would want characters from these games. Crash Bandicoot, Steve from Minecraft, Ezio, the list goes on and on.
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    Two words: Language. Barrier.

    It's probably easier to get 3rd party characters from Japanese companies.
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    Yeah, and even then they admitted that they're kinda starting to run out of noteworthy JP ones that aren't in yet, so might as well start experimenting.
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    Well, as far as I know, there's still Koei Tecmo, Arc System Works, Spike Chunsoft...

    And there's still represented companies who don't have some IPs represented yet. Just to name a few:

    SEGA:
    -Puyo Puyo
    -Sakura Wars
    -Streets of Rage
    -The House of the Dead

    NAMCO:
    -Xenogears
    -Tekken
    -Time Crisis
    -Other arcade classics (like Dig Dug, for instance)

    Square Enix:
    -Kingdom Hearts (technically?)
    -The World Ends with You
    Why does Nintendo keep leaving us in the dark every few months? That's worse than letting us know a character is coming several months in advance. That would torture us by making us wait several months but at least that would let us know when the character is coming.
    Last summer two DLC characters were shown at E3 so it's likely that the 2nd Vol. 2 character will be announced alongside the ARMS rep. Said character may get a Terry style trailer or a gameplay footage trailer if we're lucky.
    In order for 2B to be eligible to join Smash, she must appear in a different game on a Nintendo console first. Then and only then will she be eligible. Joker was eligible because the Japanese version of Persona Q2 released before Joker was first announced for Smash.
    Wario Wario Wario
    Wario Wario Wario
    Do you SERIOUSLY believe that fan rule? Smash isn't about Nintendo any more - if anything it stopped being about Nintendo once Ryu get in.
    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    Cloud wasn’t in any games on Nintendo consoles before Smash 4 so how is 2B different?
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    Wario Wario Wario Wario Wario Wario
    Champion of Hyrule Champion of Hyrule
    Ryu had several games on Nintendo consoles starting with SF2 on the Super Nintendo, and Cloud appeared in these Nintendo games before his official Smash appearance:
    -Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories (Game Boy Advance)
    -Kingdom Hearts: Re:Coded (DS)
    -The Theatrhythm series (3DS)
    -Final Fantasy Explorers (3DS)

    So yeah; Cloud wasn't nearly extravagant as Ryu in terms of Nintendo-related appearance prior to Smash 4, but they were definitely there in both cases.
    Every Fighter's Pass character can appeal to new audiences who have never played Smash before and/or don't have a Switch.

    Joker and Hero can appeal to PlayStation fans who play Persona 5 and DQ11.
    Banjo can appeal to XBOX fans who play Rare Replay.
    Terry can appeal to Sony and XBOX fans who play SNK games.
    Byleth can appeal to people who play Fire Emblem Heroes but don't have a Switch. Byleth is in FE Heroes.
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    Sakura Shinguji from Sakura Wars can appeal to people who play Fire Emblem but are looking for more depth.
    Pokelego999
    Pokelego999
    You saying FE dosen't have depth?
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    No, I'm not saying that. Sakura Wars just has a bit more depth.
    What if a face mask was Mii headgear in DLC? The mask could have a Smash symbol on it.
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    It would be a great way to show solidarity to the virus or even allow purchases to towards helping those affected by the virus. Sadly though, I think this wouldn’t be received well by those outside the Smash circle. Kind of a “too soon” type of thing. Also, beating on someone for having a mask on has different connotations to it (ie Hong Kong banning face masks due to protestors against Chinese influence using them to hide identities).
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    I apologize. This idea wasn't meant to be offensive.
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    I don’t find personally offensive but I would imagine there are those that do. As well saw with MGW and the Native American issue, I can honestly say including a face mask would probably ruffle to many feathers. I safer and less offensive way to go about it is maybe feature avatars of Smash characters in masks.
    I want to be able to play Diddy Kong Racing on something other than N64. It needs to be included in Nintendo Switch Online when N64 games are added.
    Rex should be about as tall as Young Link if he joins because that's how tall he is compared to Shulk.
    Pokelego999
    RetrogamerMax
    RetrogamerMax
    Well Smash is never accurate with size or height because K. Rool is around the same size as DK in Smash while he is like 4 or 5 times bigger than DK in the DKC games. Same with Ridley compared to Samus. In fact, I would say their giant sizes after taking a mushroom would be their accurate sizes or close to it.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    How tall should Rex be in Smash then?
    Should Xenoblade Chronicles 1 have been E10+ instead of T? The game is incredibly tame other than mild language and some blood. E10+ could have worked but not E.
    How were good boys and girls supposed to know who Joker was? GOOD boys and girls don't play games that they're too young to play unless their parents let them play games like Persona 5.
    Don't you hate it when TV shows and movies portray Star Wars fans as losers and nerds?
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