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That's really just a difference in how they get around. Dark Samus still tends to shoot at you with her arm cannon during her boss battles, so she and Samus share a base attacking moveset of 'shooting energy blasts/missiles'. On the other hand, even if you change Metal Sonic's animations to have him floating off the ground rather than running, he would still end up jumping and using spin attacks, which he doesn't really do in the games.
This is what I was talking about before. Every new character has only brought back two costumes, but Bamco has three.Fatmanonice considering that Namco has only one character at this point, do you think it's possible that Lloyd/Nightmare could be a "both" situation rather than an either/or?
Looking at the Power of 6, Namco is the only company with an odd number of costumes remaining (Lloyd, Heihachi, Gil). All three costumes could return with the next Namco rep, or one could be held back for another fighter. That said, including Heihachi's costume with Nightmare might make a lot of sense. With both Tekken and Soul Calibur as well regarded Namco fighting game franchises, Nightmare could bring 3 SC and 3 Tekken costumes, for example: Sophitia, Siegfried, Yoshimitsu || Heihachi, King, Jin. From there, Lloyd would bring his own costume, other Tales series costumes, and Gil.
You know I just realized: If the Namco rep comes out after the Season Pass and it's Nightmare, we could get a Siegfried Echo to go alongside him. How sick would that be.
Looking at the Power of 6, Namco is the only company with an odd number of costumes remaining (Lloyd, Heihachi, Gil). All three costumes could return with the next Namco rep, or one could be held back for another fighter. That said, including Heihachi's costume with Nightmare might make a lot of sense. With both Tekken and Soul Calibur as well regarded Namco fighting game franchises, Nightmare could bring 3 SC and 3 Tekken costumes, for example: Sophitia, Siegfried, Yoshimitsu || Heihachi, King, Jin. From there, Lloyd would bring his own costume, other Tales series costumes, and Gil.
No thank you.
It's a character 5 thing, not overall DLC.
Misreading I think haha. Geno is most likely not character 5, but he’s still likely for Season 2
I think it's misinformation some of the guys are spreading around.
Fatmanonice
clearly thinks Geno is coming before E3 and I believe that if he does.
Fatman said he’s around 3rd on his list of most likely. Lloyd being 1st. Not bad.
Not really.
I just want Geno to come with a SMRPG stage. We have Mario stages, already, but none of them represent the version of the mushroom world depicted in SMRPG very well. ..That, and it'd be good twice over if it was Bowser's Keep with Exor, since we still lack a dedicated Bowser's Castle stage, which is rather odd after all this time.
- Resident Evil getting Spirits.
Fatmanonice
and the discord saying FP5 will probably either be Lloyd, Dante, Nightmare, Sol, or a curveball.Fatman is saying Lloyd is the most likely DLC 5 character (or character in general).
Dude, aren't like 3/5 of your most wanteds anime swordfighters (not counting Isaac as well)?
- Resident Evil getting Spirits.
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That's pretty much it.
Edit: That's great news to hear that your nose surgery went well.
Thank you very much guys!
I've been predicting Lloyd since the November 1st Assist Trophy slaughter of 2018.
Your welcome.
Fatmanonice
I also got a question for you, just more so confirmation then anything. I remember back in, wow, last November or so that you said Lloyd's name was heard a ton more the Yuri's when talking of DLC speculation. Is the new info you guys got since then in the private discord directly linked to Lloyd Irving himself, or is it simply linked to the Tales of series in general?
So you're saying you HAVE heard legitimately good things about one or two Nintendo characters? (Sorry if you already said this and I forgot.) I DO remember you saying how one singular Assist Trophy promotion was possible.
So if things are so good for Lloyd (like Geno), then what's the point of Nightmare? Is it possible that we get a Bandai Namco character for both Fighter #5 AND post pass DLC?
I've said that quite a bit too. It makes perfect sense that he's the 77th fighter. If he doesn't appear by then, we should start to worry.#77
And if he does appear we can start singing Sweet Victory.
See normally I'd agree with you but considering five of the seven Fire Emblem characters, which all consist of swordfighters, have the same three specials
and we have another pair of swordfighters that have similar movesets (and if you really want to count him since he's not anime, at least not in the way the aforementioned characters are) I feel the complaints are justified. as well but they don't use swords as much as they use dual butterknives.
For one, there's lots of ways that a character who fights with a weapon that isn't a sword would actually be functionally different. But, function really isn't the point. Dedede just has a big sword like Ike in function, but no one calls him a swordfighter. Joker and Bayonetta both fire physical, non-reflectable projectiles, so they actually just have a really long sword. Hell, while we're at it, everyone who punches something actually just has a really short sword, especially if they get intangibility. Rising Tackle just turns Terry into a sword!
Well, I can't always say something people like. I said before that I don't fault the anime part of the anime swordsman, but Lloyd is comically anime. He'd be the epitome of the trope if added to Smash. Sure, two swords etc etc. I didn't play too much of Tales of Symphonia. I thought Lloyd looked cool back when I was 16, and I'll admit that nearly 14 years later I still think he is visually appealing. I'm a sucker for double breasted coats (even though he doesn't seem to be wearing one when you really inspect it), silver buttons, high collars and dual swords. He's wearing two belts so he could do without the goofy suspenders, but I guess that's a unique flair, silly as it is.
This may seem off topic, but jokes aside, I don't consider Robin an anime swordfighter. If I'm being super hyperbolic, I throw him in with the rest of the Fire Emblem guys, but I was excited to see him revealed (and had that excitement murdered when it meant Marth was getting another clone) He uses his sword(s) as a way to close the stock and cover what would otherwise be a zoner's weakness - close range. If he weren't so slow and didn't have the worst gimmick in the game weighing him down, I would love to play him. The same goes for Hero.
They are absolutely READY for breakfast toast, let me tell you.EDIT: you could probably count
What always bothered me about that argument is they were meant to be the same and or similar. The whole point of those clones slash echoes slash whatever is too increase the size of the roster without putting in the time that a unique addition would require. That's not a swordsmen problem that's a dev time saving problem.See normally I'd agree with you but considering five of the seven Fire Emblem characters, which all consist of swordfighters, have the same three specials
EDIT: you could probably count
But how much could they really differentiate them? Link and Young Link is the biggest tragedy, honestly, because Young Link could have incorporated so many Majora's Mask concepts vs Link's traditional concepts - now that Link is Breath of the Wild Link, it's not as big a deal, but I think it's still equally a tragedy that Young Link doesn't have Majora's Mask concepts while Toon Link keeps that traditional Link approach. He has to earn his keep somehow...
I mean considering Marth Ike Robin and Corrin all are different it shows you can still put in creativity. At the end of the day it's mostly just sprites for the earlier games barely moving and models kinda of doing a bit more later, how much effort Sakurai it's into making them different is up to him.
On top of this, we literally just got Hero a few months ago as a straight-faced example of the trope, and with his three distinct alts it can really make it feel like the pass is already well and truly filled with that exact kind of character. Not to mention Joker, who doesn’t quite wield a sword but is still a JRPG protagonist who uses a blade for quite a few attacks.See normally I'd agree with you but considering five of the seven Fire Emblem characters, which all consist of swordfighters, have the same three specials
EDIT: you could probably count
I can't, in good conscience, consider Joker a part of the problem of guys who run up and hit things with a sword. He's very much a rogue and that's fine. Same for Hero. Lloyd just feels so much like he's just gonna be two swords Marth.
Fatmanonice
has heard no indies whatsoever..... I thought for sure this would be "the smash" to open that gateway...
The thread is speculating over who will be fighter number 5 and you two are discussing toast.
I mean we got sans, I don't see how we can go any higher.It's a little disheartening that
