Vlade
Social Outcast
It's still bad for Falco. Just very uphill, yet winnable
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tedeth
Smash Master
Get ***** world. I just solved the 5X5 rubik's cube for the first time. 
i think the key is not underestimating anyone ever, no matter how confident you are going in to match. not sure that last time you played glenn but im assuming he improved signifacantly
True Romance
Smash Ace
I warned Vladey, but he didn't listen
Is your brother still set on not playing IC's any more after his most impressive tournament result to date?
dunno hope not, i can never get a straight answer out of him...."i hate IC's, i wanna play olimar, i wanna play ness, ect ect"
wish he would just stick with IC in tournament matchs and keep the others for friendlies....HINT HINT glenn, if your reading this
wish he would just stick with IC in tournament matchs and keep the others for friendlies....HINT HINT glenn, if your reading this 
Technodeath
Smash Champion
i dont really mind who he plays. it's up to him, it's not our decision to make.
People should be striving for the most competitive scene possible.
Of course player choice ends up ontop, but as Ice Climbers are a good character having a good one in the scene benefits everyone.
Of course player choice ends up ontop, but as Ice Climbers are a good character having a good one in the scene benefits everyone.
Jupz
Smash Master
Yeah we have a lot of people that are decent with IC's (Glen, Kane, Vlade, me) but Glen's the only one that uses them profficiently in tourney. Vlade used to. But Shaya's right you need the experience because there a very different matchup.
Would be cool if he seconded Olimar.
Would be cool if he seconded Olimar.
QFEIf he does play Olimar i hope he gets shattered at a tournament so he understands that his ice climbers were so ****.
WRONG he should play who we tell him to play
...besides i enjoy watching IC 2 much I don't mind if he moves to Olimar just his Ice Climbers were getting so **** and he was at a point where he could succesfully chain grab.
It's like learning all of toon link's tricks then suddenly moving to a random character lol.
It's like learning all of toon link's tricks then suddenly moving to a random character lol.
chaingrabbing is something that most (non ic mains) can do. its an important yet very small part of their game. desyncs and zoning are far more important and more difficult to learn.
Vlade
Social Outcast
I thought desyncing was easy lol
But honestly, without the chaingrab Ice Climbers are pretty bad, most likely low tier
But honestly, without the chaingrab Ice Climbers are pretty bad, most likely low tier
hes got the desynching/mind games downpact, probably far more then he has the cg
Technodeath
Smash Champion
yeah OH KAY ALAN.
u make me lol alzi
on a different note i have discovered the perfect way to counter IC cg. As soon as glenn grabs me my hand begins to spazum in glenns direction and unfortunatly happens to knock glenns controller out of his hand. Thus breaking the cg, works everytime, its FULL PROOF!!!!
alzi, youre making both yourself and him look bad.
to desync is easy yes, but to do you effectively is extremely difficult. controlling to characters well for a sustained period of time while someone is trying to kill you is outrageously hard. you guys are all stuck on initial ideas without thinking about their execution and implementation.
i would hardly say hes making them look bad, clearly he was joking....i think
....Alzi desyncing is controlling popo and nana seperetly, e.g blizzard wall, infinate cg. When i said he had desycns/mind games down pact i meant his desyncing is controlled and used effectively, not just desyncing for the hell of it
Do you really think this?i would hardly say hes making them look bad, clearly he was joking....i think
Do you really think Alzi was joking?
im gonna use EA as an example here. his chaingrabbing has always been superb. but it wasnt until recently that he started doing really well at tournies. yet my cg ability sucks, and my ics do well in most instances. we focused on different parts of our games, which are all important. but without the desyncs, zoning and the ability to guard not only yourself but a cpu controlled character at the same time, you cant do well with ics at all. they need mindgames to get the grab. which means its never guaranteed, and they have to be able to win (or at least almost win) without it.
Alternatively you could just be better than EA?
No offense to EA.
i know how cg a few (namely high tier) characters well, but rarely will 0 to death anyone. theres a big difference between giving someone 60% and actually killing them. actually, at the last tourney i was at, i lost because my cg-ing is subpar. single elimination semis, myself and an mk on our final stocks, me at 90%, i grab at 20% but drop him 100%, and lose. this has happened a bunch.
as such, most matches i win, i may get a grab or two, and cg for a bit. but rarely will i 0 to death. but most of the match im fighting with desyncs and actively trying to push someone into getting grabbed. this is the real hard part; and you cant learn it on training mode, unfortunately.
as such, most matches i win, i may get a grab or two, and cg for a bit. but rarely will i 0 to death. but most of the match im fighting with desyncs and actively trying to push someone into getting grabbed. this is the real hard part; and you cant learn it on training mode, unfortunately.
Jupz
Smash Master
I can succesfully 0-death most low weight characters but rarely against heavyweights and middleweights
C~Dog
Smash Champion
= 3 Stock'd I 24/01/10 =
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9383242&postcount=205
Entrants: 25. Entry: $5
1/ Tibs [Diddy Kong]
2/ Afropony [Metaknight]
3/ Earl [Metaknight/Zero Suit Samus]
4/ Splice [Game & Watch]
5/ Nicks [Wario]
5/ Toshi [Diddy Kong]
7/ Ledge [Metaknight/Snake]
7/ C~Dog [Kirby]
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9383242&postcount=205
Entrants: 25. Entry: $5
1/ Tibs [Diddy Kong]
2/ Afropony [Metaknight]
3/ Earl [Metaknight/Zero Suit Samus]
4/ Splice [Game & Watch]
5/ Nicks [Wario]
5/ Toshi [Diddy Kong]
7/ Ledge [Metaknight/Snake]
7/ C~Dog [Kirby]
Vlade
Social Outcast
I thought Afropony mained Pit -1 respect
-1 respect 
Technodeath
Smash Champion
there's a decent mix at least in that small list.
Jupz
Smash Master
Wtf afropony, use pit :D I wanted to see vids of your pit.
C~Dog
Smash Champion
He used her against Splice.
Connor is talking about Earls ZSS, after I beat his MK, not Afroponys Pit, btw.
Well in general I don't enjoy playing against ZSS, Zelda/Sheik, Kirby, Jigglypuff, Peach or Ice Climbers and some others lower down the tiers
But I always look forward to some enjoyable puzzling MK matches vs. Earl that involves lots of UpBing on his part and lots of Uairing on my part and it's a very fun little strategy game. Then he uses ZSS, so I figure it's a best of 5 and I'll wait for more MK. I lost the ZSS match and I CP'd Halberd coz Nicks told me to, and then I lost to his MK. And it turned out to be a set of 3. I should stop CPing Halberd...
I enjoyed the first match, didn't enjoy the second, and then I wasn't really in a happy state to play the MKvGaW MU.
Pretty much, I'm not too fussed playing Nix's ZSS or Apollos ZSS (I haven't played yours Zero), but when I lose the normally most enjoyable matches of the tournament to more ZSS-liness, it's just annoying.
But I always look forward to some enjoyable puzzling MK matches vs. Earl that involves lots of UpBing on his part and lots of Uairing on my part and it's a very fun little strategy game. Then he uses ZSS, so I figure it's a best of 5 and I'll wait for more MK. I lost the ZSS match and I CP'd Halberd coz Nicks told me to, and then I lost to his MK. And it turned out to be a set of 3. I should stop CPing Halberd...
I enjoyed the first match, didn't enjoy the second, and then I wasn't really in a happy state to play the MKvGaW MU.
Pretty much, I'm not too fussed playing Nix's ZSS or Apollos ZSS (I haven't played yours Zero), but when I lose the normally most enjoyable matches of the tournament to more ZSS-liness, it's just annoying.
Jupz
Smash Master
I love versing Warios. Hate Kirby, Zelda, Jiggly.
does earl know about zss's infinite on wario? that would be pretty lol to see.
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