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Ganonic Grimoire (Social) - Commiseration and Hierarchy

Supreme Dirt

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Tournament for me today guys.

Unfortunately, I'm still not confident enough to go Ganon.
 

smashkng

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To all of you Ganons from Sweden. Because there are so many Ganons in Sweden, we should make an image with Ganon with the Swedish flag like resembling his residence being in that country.
 

Heartstring

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To all of you Ganons from Sweden. Because there are so many Ganons in Sweden, we should make an image with Ganon with the Swedish flag like resembling his residence being in that country.
i get you
sadly i lack photoshop, i can attempt to do this at college on monday if you want me to <3
 

Z1GMA

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To all of you Ganons from Sweden. Because there are so many Ganons in Sweden, we should make an image with Ganon with the Swedish flag like resembling his residence being in that country.
Let's see...
Me, Tonsana, Smashkng, Exalted, Makke...
A flag is too much.
 

Z1GMA

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I like Yamazaki, only because he's freakin' psychotic, and his laugh is funny. For some reason, I think he's really cool in Capcom vs. SNK... probably the coolest in that game. XD
Ye, that's the game I use him in.
I also love how he is psychotic.

And when he lifts them in the head as his Winning Pose <3
 

satowolf

Oppa Gundam Style
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You're the 11'th person comming in here only to say that, today.
Wow, 11th? I'm only saying it 'cause it's true ;-; Guess I should hang here more often, grow a beard and do my morning jogs ('cause that's what Ganon does......he jogs).

It's natural, seeing as most people are women compared to us!

lolbrag
Too true ;-;
 

Z1GMA

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Awesome games Zigma!
You truly are an amazing Ganon main! :3
Ye, fun games, Gov.
The delay wasn't THAT bad, actually.

I had been playing for 2 hours before you and I started,
So I got a little playful with Warlock Punches.

Hope you learned a few cool Party Tricks ;d

You're really good at the techniqual part.
 

DLA

"Their anguish was my nourishment."
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I got 9th/29 at a tournament yesterday. Alright I guess, though didn't do anything spectacular. I took a game off of Hunger's Wario, and I also almost did a combo in doubles that was about as close to a Wombo Combo as Brawl can get, but Ganon is very slow so I missed the Fair :(

I recorded pretty much all of my matches--I'll upload them when I have free time.
 

Claire Diviner

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9th out of 29, eh? I'd say that isn't bad, in my opinion. I hope to rank in the top 20 for my first tournament.

The fact that you ranked 9th with Ganondorf deserves a compliment too... and a Ganondorf-shaped cookie :3
 

DLA

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9th out of 29, eh? I'd say that isn't bad, in my opinion. I hope to rank in the top 20 for my first tournament.

The fact that you ranked 9th with Ganondorf deserves a compliment too... and a Ganondorf-shaped cookie :3
9th actually isn't great for me, I've been placing 5th or 7th at locals lately. I should have gotten 7th at this one, but I lost to Kennispam's pocket MK on last hit, game 3 lol. I appreciate the compliment though :p

I just started the process of uploading my vids, they should be up in a day or so.
 

Claire Diviner

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9th actually isn't great for me, I've been placing 5th or 7th at locals lately. I should have gotten 7th at this one, but I lost to Kennispam's pocket MK on last hit, game 3 lol. I appreciate the compliment though :p

I just started the process of uploading my vids, they should be up in a day or so.
Ugh. Pocket MK, eh? Goes to show that Meta Knight really is that "deus ex machina" in competitive Brawl. Blah! Still, I'd like to think 9th is good. XD

By the way, when you upload the vids, post 'em here (probably goes without saying). It'll save me the trouble of searching for it on Youtube. XD
 

satowolf

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All the milk you could ever want would be yours for the taking!
Let's not forget that each glass of milk comes with Ganondorf-shaped cookies, each made with caring love... or malicious hatred (whichever's funnier). XD
Mmm...milk and Ganon-Cookies? :awesome:

I got 9th/29 at a tournament yesterday. Alright I guess, though didn't do anything spectacular. I took a game off of Hunger's Wario, and I also almost did a combo in doubles that was about as close to a Wombo Combo as Brawl can get, but Ganon is very slow so I missed the Fair :(

I recorded pretty much all of my matches--I'll upload them when I have free time.
Ganon too slow? Main Falcon.

Well done though, DLA.
^ This

Ugh. Pocket MK, eh? Goes to show that Meta Knight really is that "deus ex machina" in competitive Brawl. Blah! Still, I'd like to think 9th is good. XD
Lol Deus ex machina xD

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9th out of 29 is legit for 'Dorf o:
Can't wait to see the vids
 

KenniSpam!

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I got 9th/29 at a tournament yesterday. Alright I guess, though didn't do anything spectacular. I took a game off of Hunger's Wario, and I also almost did a combo in doubles that was about as close to a Wombo Combo as Brawl can get, but Ganon is very slow so I missed the Fair :(

I recorded pretty much all of my matches--I'll upload them when I have free time.
dude we ***** them with our triforce team. i got like 3 LK'S and a spike in one game... plus that epic combo :D

9th actually isn't great for me, I've been placing 5th or 7th at locals lately. I should have gotten 7th at this one, but I lost to Kennispam's pocket MK on last hit, game 3 lol. I appreciate the compliment though :p

I just started the process of uploading my vids, they should be up in a day or so.
i couldve won with sheik vs pikachu on sv, mk is just easier imo :I

i probably wouldve been better off too, you **** pocket mk's
 

DLA

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i couldve won with sheik vs pikachu on sv, mk is just easier imo :I

i probably wouldve been better off too, you **** pocket mk's
Eh woulda coulda shoulda IMO. CPing SV was a tough choice, and I got the matchup I wanted, but I made one or two brutal input errors that cost me the game. I can't let that **** happen in that matchup haha, Ganon's gotta be spot on with his punishes. GGs though for sure.
 

Z1GMA

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I summed it all up in the personal MU Thread . . .

Ganon's average ratio: 31.04 - 68.96
Roughly 31.04 - 68.96 (Ganon and Sopo excluded)


Thoughts?
 

Claire Diviner

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I summed it all up in the personal MU Thread . . .

Ganon's average ratio: 31.04 - 68.96
Roughly 31.04 - 68.96 (Ganon and Sopo excluded)


Thoughts?
It isn't surprising, unfortunately. The good news is that it appears to be an improvement over his "25-75" that's currently up on smashwiki. I guess we're just finding more ways to improve his metagame one baby step at a time. Will he ever increase in rank? Probably not, but we are improving nonetheless.
 

Ganonsburg

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I guess that's about right. Isn't that in the area of what most people consider a hard counter? If so, Ganon is hard-countered by the cast of Brawl, which makes victory ever-so-sweet.

Not that this has to be done, but I wonder what these MU's will look like in a year? ie, if someone were to do this project again in a year, what would change, if anything? It's a pretty cool to think about.

:034:
 

smashkng

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If we just put "hopeless <30/70" it would probably be better though, we have so many bad MUs that some are more ***** than others MU ratios than other bad won't help us much.
 

Xyless

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It's all about mindgames. Easiest way to punish is to get in close, shield the ball, and attack. But if the Ganon sees it coming, he can stop holding B and get a free shield-ignoring 666 damage.

...also, it's still in development, so it's not entirely finished yet. We just figured that, since we have the move's pacing and juggling coded finally, we'd give an update to the world.
 
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