Fthrow/Dthrow Chaingrab Thread

[Zylar]

Gloating... over.... what?

Gloating over the fact he doesn't have to use the C-stick at all. He's free to use it was w/e.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Yeah, what zylar said (seriously). Also, i'm gonna have 2 sets of controls. One for pika, and one for my other characters.

 

[Kataefi]

If I can ask... everyone who's not on the list cannot be CGd? I'm half-talking about Zelda specifically and also the rest of the other characters not mentioned on the list ^^

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Basically, there is a fall list somehwere on smashboards. Everybody who falls faster than snake, and snake, can be CGd. Everybody else does not. So no, zelda is not CG'd

 

[SilverSpark]

O0oo, new chain grabs I shall add this to the trick thread~

 

[J4pu]

Basically, there is a fall list somehwere on smashboards. Everybody who falls faster than snake, and snake, can be CGd. Everybody else does not. So no, zelda is not CG'd

here you go everybody that is curious: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=162546

it shows both fall speed and weight
fall speed=how fast you normally fall
weight= how resistant you are to knockback

I would expect fall speed to be more important when involving a throw with ~set knockback.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

lawl there is nothing special about not using the cstick. for a long time in my close groupd of friends it was considered noobish to cstick, and we got on without it. it isnt too hard, i just switched when i learned samus and figured it would help a little if i csticked.

 

[J4pu]

cstick is good for retreating Fair/Bair as well as not using your 2nd jump when you Uair

 

[Stealth Raptor]

that whole second jump thing is why i have tap jump off also why i use cstick with samus, cause i use tap jump with her.

 

[J4pu]

tap jump is good for Usmash OoS

 

[Stealth Raptor]

i either grab or nair out of sheild.

 

[Ussi]

Tag, will you update the first post with the current CGs? Searching this thread over and over gets tedious.

 

[Ugg]

King Chuchuchu, anyone?

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

I can do retreating bairs/moving forward bairs/non fastfall dairs/no DJ uair just fine...lol.

 

[salaboB]

tap jump is good for Usmash OoS

You can usmash OoS without tap jump.

 

[Piman34]

I can do retreating bairs/moving forward bairs/non fastfall dairs/no DJ uair just fine...lol.

i can do most of those too, just from playing melee where the c-stick is hard for me lol, but how do you do non fastfall dairs? that one Ihave to use the cstick for

 

[J4pu]

You can usmash OoS without tap jump.

yea, but it's quite a bit harder, why make things more difficult for yourself?

i can do most of those too, just from playing melee where the c-stick is hard for me lol, but how do you do non fastfall dairs? that one Ihave to use the cstick for

Cstick auto-FF's your Dair anyway (in brawl)

 

[King~]

i can do most of those too, just from playing melee where the c-stick is hard for me lol, but how do you do non fastfall dairs? that one Ihave to use the cstick for

basically you slide your fingure from jump to A while holding down, its not that hard once u get used to it


Edit: i finally got to use some of these today in tourney, so fun.

 

[Piman34]

hey guys that 'inescapable, un-grenade-able' CG on snake that Prime pointed out earlier (f-throw x2, pummel, d-throw x3, pummel, d-throw x5 I believe), the snake i was playing could grenade out of it during the first set of d-throws. I assume it was just me sucking and being too slow, but I just wanted some confirmation on that

 

[Stealth Raptor]

you probably werent buffering it correctly. prime tested this with the debug mode, so he was hitting b with snake every frame. i highly doubt that he is wrong in it being un-grenadable (yes thats a word ****it)

 

[Piman34]

haha ok, sounds good i'll keep practicing :D

 

[A New England Winter]

Wow...get *****, Wolf

 

[Ussi]

tag, you should add this under falco:

From 40%, Falco gets out at around 100%. From 45%, Falco gets out at 80% and from 50% it's 70%.

might as well put 30% fthrow (to get to 40%) > dthrow x w/e

 

[gallax]

hey tag, it would be so much easier for me(and probably others in the future) if you could put starting percentages next to some of the throw combinations. like on DDD, aobut what percentage should you refresh your dthrow? just go through and think about what people should know if they are seeing this for the first time.

 

[Muhznit]

i can do most of those too, just from playing melee where the c-stick is hard for me lol, but how do you do non fastfall dairs? that one Ihave to use the cstick for

Playing on a classic controller, I simply hold down on the control stick and press X+A around the same time. Kinda limits mobility, though. However, I've recently been practicing Y->C-Stick down to gain full control over the regular stick. The result, more often than not, is a full hopped Dair that doesn't auto-fast fall. It works WONDERS with Lucas for me, but I have a bit of trouble nailing the short-hop through this method. Probably just slow fingers or something. I dunno.

 

[Zajice]

Playing on a classic controller, I simply hold down on the control stick and press X+A around the same time. Kinda limits mobility, though. However, I've recently been practicing Y->C-Stick down to gain full control over the regular stick. The result, more often than not, is a full hopped Dair that doesn't auto-fast fall. It works WONDERS with Lucas for me, but I have a bit of trouble nailing the short-hop through this method. Probably just slow fingers or something. I dunno.

I can go from the Y button to down on the c-stick fairly easily. It's what I do. It just takes a while to get used to with Pikachu since Lucas kinda jumps strange.

 

[Hitman JT]

*looks at TCs name*
O dayum.

 

[Ussi]

*looks at TCs name*
O dayum.

I had the same reaction when I saw your posts for the first time in w/e tourney/crew thread i was looking at.

 

[Muhznit]

*looks at TCs name*
O dayum.

WHEN WILL THE CLONES END!?

First two Stealths, then two K#s, now two Truths!?

 

[Hitman JT]

Lol I wish I could just change my name to the way it is on AiB to avoid the confusion >.>
Well at least we don't live on the same coast, THEN we'd have a little problem XD

WHEN WILL THE CLONES END!?

First two Stealths, then two K#s, now two Truths!?

Yeah i'm not surprised by there being 2 truths...it's kinda unoriginal but it sounds so badace...
=p

 

[Ussi]

Next thing you know we'll see a Kalo, a gallax, [insert letter]_Prime... and some thegoodnewsbear, Piman3.14 and an Ussy.... maybe an ISAM

 

[gallax]

i think a p-ussi is next....

 

[Piman34]

stealthvelociraptor?

stealthrex imo

 

[Stealth Raptor]

no more stealths T_T

 

[Dublio]

Theres already a clone me and he lives in the same state as me. The only difference is that his name is in all uppercase and only the first three letters. Me = Dublio, him = DUB.

Least we don't play the same people =o

 

[KRiMz0N]

you cant chaingrab charizard with this?

 

[Stealth Raptor]

there has been no proof yet that says we cant.

 

[KRiMz0N]

there has been no proof yet that says we cant.

man, you guys are scary. im going back to marth forums

 

[Stealth Raptor]

stop complaining lol you guys destroy us

 

[KRiMz0N]

stop complaining lol you guys destroy us

not me in particular. i get ***** by pikachu. i thought charizard was immune to the chaingrab, and he's my second, so i was going to decide to use him against any pika i go up against. but ill wait for further cg testing results before i do that