KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
In Melee, anything* is possible!
*DI dependent. Not everything may be possible.
*DI dependent. Not everything may be possible.
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Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-
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forward smash to forward smash is my favorite bowser combo
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Stfu, anything is possible and infinite potential!
omgwtfToph
Smash Master
Sinji
Smash Master
You and I are on the same page.
unknown522
Some guy
lol.
Speaking of DI, I combo'd this guy in my pool (he was sheik on DL64) with drill -> shine -> illusion edgecancel -> shine -> up-smash.
Then after that combo, Kage told me how he JV5'd some other sheik in his pool
Speaking of DI, I combo'd this guy in my pool (he was sheik on DL64) with drill -> shine -> illusion edgecancel -> shine -> up-smash.
Then after that combo, Kage told me how he JV5'd some other sheik in his pool
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I mean, I don't mind accepting this mindset with characters and players, but do we really need to apply it to combos too?
Next you'll be telling me anything is possible movement wise. And then priority-wise. The very foundations of the game will crumble around us! Master Hand is playable! Giga Bowser is low tier! Luigi beats Fox because of jab infinites but gets camped by Ness's broken movement! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
/mind implosion
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Yep that's how it works. =) Nair combos yo, with downtilt into Nair again! lol.
JPOBS
Smash Hero
man i don't care what anyone says about DI shenanigans in Dark's combo vid, his combos are incredibly creative.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Try as we might, double Volcano Kick will never happen.
Magus is free to prove me wrong in gif form though
Divinokage
Smash Legend
I almost did uptilt into dair, nair, fair.. lol.
crush
Smash Master
omg loved that first walljump shine kill. reminds me of that teams match you vs m2k and cort?? where you got like 3 shinespike kills i think by yourself in like 10 seconds.
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
They definitely are incredibly creative... but it doesn't hurt that his opponents are literally picking the worst possible DI >_>
unknown522
Some guy
lol, when you almost combo'd off of that u-tilt in kyle after the rest punish.
too good
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chillin & azen vs. m2k and vidjo on battlefield
JPOBS
Smash Hero
Checkout the big brain on Brett!
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was on my phone at the time. here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmUVfjZVRZk#t=2m40s
Sinji
Smash Master
Whats the best option oos against peach (hitbox) Dash attack? Any advice?
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upsmash out of shield?
Winston
Smash Master
If you're confident in waveshining you can release shield -> waveshine her a bunch -> usmash.
Otherwise, yeah, usmash is good. Don't do it if her percent is too low though
Otherwise, yeah, usmash is good. Don't do it if her percent is too low though
SH dair > shine > usmash.
Winston
Smash Master
they can SDI the dair though
JPOBS
Smash Hero
uthrow uair
Kinda. It's one of the harder to do since dash-attacking a shield literally puts you inside the other character lol... I have great success with it.
Sinji
Smash Master
Winston answered my first question. Jpobs answered my second question which was "whats the option oos when peach is on low percents"?
Palpi
Smash Hero
I thought u-throw uair wasn't always guaranteed on peach..?
unknown522
Some guy
drop your shield and u-tilt
Rush
Smash Apprentice
Shine turnaround wavedash to ledgegrab VS shine turnaround up-b to ledgegrab. Pros and cons of each? Which would be the better option?
crush
Smash Master
Better option depends on the situation. The best option is not always the right one. I like using shine turnaround up-b when edgeguarding marth because it has offstage hitboxes up the wazoo **
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3-ulPtjBL8
used fox a bit in this so i guess it's relevant
used fox a bit in this so i guess it's relevant
unknown522
Some guy
not a clue.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I don't think it usually makes a difference tbh. Fox grabs the edge super fast like 10 different ways and most of them are viable and they all have their little moments of being the best. I'd probably recommend usually doing methods that involve onstage WD and stuff like that just because if you get hit out of a shine > turn-around > up+B you don't have a jump. And you're probably going to die.
Onstage WD --> edgegrabs are also easy, and consistency is important. Jumping to grab the edge is really underutilized by a lot of players. Especially vs Marth.
Onstage WD --> edgegrabs are also easy, and consistency is important. Jumping to grab the edge is really underutilized by a lot of players. Especially vs Marth.
Winston
Smash Master
Is the firegrab ever better than the shine turnaround wavedash? The "you might get killed" thing is a pretty big cost, and it's slower afaik.
I guess when you are too far away to reach the edge in one wavedash but too close to do a dash canceled shine, but other than that...
I guess when you are too far away to reach the edge in one wavedash but too close to do a dash canceled shine, but other than that...
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
You could just DD WD FF edgegrab though.
crush
Smash Master
Or on BF/DL/YS short hop reverse shine cancel double jump Waveland off side platform edgegrab.
Palpi
Smash Hero
Pretty sure reverse shine wave dash is da bess and the sexiest
Lovage
Smash Hero
Pretty sure reverse shine wave dash is da bess and the sexiest
ya waveshine onto the ledge is really fast, safe and consistent. definitely the method i would recommend to most players
i've gotten really consistent at shinehogs recently and they're way faster than i used to think, pretty good option if you can do them well
Metal Reeper
Smash Champion
Lovage, you know by quoting Palpi you just fufilled his wildest fantasies.
Palpi
Smash Hero
Did he?
Niko45
Smash Master
PC turn around >>>>>>>