Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-

[unknown522]

lovage and chillin lurkin

 

[Redd]

Tight. Thank you. T___T

 

[earla]

could someone explain this formula strongbad gave me? im not good with maths.

calculate frame advantage on shield with
shieldstun = floor{(4.45+damage)/2.235}

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

4.45 + x

^ divided by 2.235

^ rounded down

 

[earla]

what does floor refer to? (round down end result)?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

rounded down

 

[earla]

did it for foxes jab. equalled 3.78 .. or 3.5 i'll round it down to.

this means we have 3 and a half frames advantage if we hit the opponents shield?

or does this mean 3.5 frames disadvantage?

 

[Pengie]

The way that I understand it, it means that you have 3 (because you always round down to a whole number) frames of stun; to figure out your frame advantage you'd find the difference between the stun and the remainder of the attacks animation.

 

[Strong Badam]

did it for foxes jab. equalled 3.78 .. or 3.5 i'll round it down to.

this means we have 3 and a half frames advantage if we hit the opponents shield?

or does this mean 3.5 frames disadvantage?

does 4 damage right? (4 + 4.45) / 2.235 = 3.78
floor(3.78) = 3
there are no fractional frames. round down to the next whole number.
3 frames of shieldstun. this does not mean 3 frames of advantage. you'd have to subtract endlag from the jab to get advantage. meaning you are at a disadvantage.
it's really hard to have frame advantage in this game.

 

[earla]

is it possible to calculate shield dis/advantage with aerials?

its complicated because some aerials may not even finish before you l cancel them.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

you can calculate it in a theoretical world where you hit on the last possible frame.

 

[Sinji]

I've been experimenting on pikachu for a while and i found a combo useful. bthrow> JC upsmash. your reading this and you say wait bthrow>JC upsmash. It works. try it out. I no longer have to uthrow uair and pika sdi the uair.

 

[Silent Wolf]

I've been experimenting on pikachu for a while and i found a combo useful. bthrow> JC upsmash. your reading this and you say wait bthrow>JC upsmash. It works. try it out. I no longer have to uthrow uair and pika sdi the uair.

im pretty sure that doesnt combo.

if theyre really SDIing your uair just switch it up with a bair sometimes. a lot of times people think the uair is getting SDId out of, when in reality they only hit with the first hit.

 

[Palpi]

It only works with awful di. It also can work on Marth, but it's stupidly di dependent.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

It can also work on fox/falco with in-ward DI. Basically its only useful on corneria when they want to DI into the fin on the uthrow, so you bthrow usmash instead. Maybe if you grab at the edge and you know they will DI away (off stage) you can bthrow usmash instead, but its not necessary.

 

[KAOSTAR]

That situation occurs more frequently on DL imo

 

[FoxLisk]

floor(x) - commonly written as [[x]] or the square braces with only the bottom serif, is defined as the greatest integer less than or equal to x.

in layman's terms you cut off the decimal part.

 

[KirbyKaze]

B-throw is sometimes good on platforms for the DI traps people have noted.

 

[FoxLisk]

B-throw is sometimes good on platforms for the DI traps people have noted.

kk no stop telling people

back throw -> platform **** is my only innovation in the fox metagame

dont take it away from me

 

[Sinji]

What do you guys think about nair>usmash against falco around 45%? The push off of the nair will give you enough time to usmash.

 

[Brookman]

dude if it works for you . .. great, you don't need us to give you the stamp of approval for every tiny thing you do in the game.

 

[Palpi]

Brookman holding it down.

Tactful where I can't be lolol

 

[KAOSTAR]

What do you guys think about nair>usmash against falco around 45%? The push off of the nair will give you enough time to usmash.

see if u can late nair into dash cancel up tilt. its better for comboing. u may not be able to get the up tilt if they di down and away tho.

nair to grab is also something to be aware of.

 

[Brookman]

. .. . this game isn't about comboing and up smash will combo if they don't DI. If they DI, they're off the stage.. . . That's the point.

 

[unknown522]

kk no stop telling people

back throw -> platform **** is my only innovation in the fox metagame

dont take it away from me

raynex has something to say about that.



Also, going to the tourney tmrw. I wonder who will win between me and raynex this time

 

[Divinokage]

raynex has something to say about that.



Also, going to the tourney tmrw. I wonder who will win between me and raynex this time

Go face some real men instead of your crewmate all the time. lol.

 

[KirbyKaze]

What do you guys think about nair>usmash against falco around 45%? The push off of the nair will give you enough time to usmash.

Up tilt and forcing tech chases is better at that point than linking to U-smash, I think.

 

[ShroudedOne]

So, a question to Fox mains: I'm sure that this has happened to someone in here. I'm in a match, moving around, doing Fox things, but then all of a sudden, I realize that I'm going too fast. Too fast, as in, I'm doing things without thinking about them, because there's no time. Then, I just freeze up. I guess that I'm trying to catch up with my fingers, and everything stops, and then there I am, standing. Takes me a while to get back into a rhythm.

It's a rather vague question that has nothing to do with matchups nor frame data, but if anyone had any tips on how to "not choke," I'd appreciate it. It's happens in friendlies, so it isn't connected to nerves, I think...

 

[ShroudedOne]

Double post...sorry.

 

[Doser]

Think faster don't move slower.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

I plan a few decisions ahead of time and let my fingers do the guitar hero work. Also lots of instinct and stuff.

 

[brawlpro]

Confidence in your game is one of the best anti - chokes.

 

[Sinji]

Lots of rest and play more. playing more is basically the only way to avoid choking. I have a thread for this. It helped me a lot.

 

[Palpi]

I'm rarely 100% conscious of all my decisions. No big deal

 

[KirbyKaze]

Go face some real men instead of your crewmate all the time. lol.

You should come to Toronto then :/

 

[ShroudedOne]

Think faster don't move slower.

That's what I try to do as Fox, but it's difficult to keep that up. But I should be able to think faster by playing more, and being in more situations...

 

[unknown522]

Go face some real men instead of your crewmate all the time. lol.

one of these days kage.

also, I got *****. 3-2'd in winner's finals.
3-0 in GFs.

 

[earla]

what are foxes best and worst zones?

+ tips on zoning with fox?

 

[Brookman]

fox doesn't know how to zone. he knows how to peg with lasers, dash dance, and grab/up smash/nair/dair/shine/bair

 

[PK Webb]

what are foxes best and worst zones?

+ tips on zoning with fox?

looking like a marth main out there