Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-

[Falcinho]

I feel special.

I also remember when you had more posts than me Falcinho.

Hehe, yeah i don't post too much in these forums =P


And plssssss up some vids Mango'n'Lucky

 

[KirbyKaze]

unknown522 posting: forgot to log out

I don't think we've ever covered Fox vs. Mario/Doc now that I think about it.

Waveshine->grab is the only thing that works indefinitely on those two. Uthrow->uair is escapable at any percent. They can DJ out of it even at 0.

if they jump out of up throw -> up air, then either:

1. Wait for the jump......then what can they do?
2. Over shoot the jump, and they will still get hit, and now they have no double jump.

Also, CC Grab doesn't work. His moves have too much hit stun, and their grab is too slow, so the shine beats it guaranteed.

sheik's up/f-tilt does that too. Or she can just jump out of the way lol

 

[unknown522]

^ yeah that was me

 

[Brookman]

I like to just bait the nair, then fast fall and either charge up smash or short hop up air. Drill Shine Wave Smash (up) is the most reliable way to kill the marios (as well as half the other cast, mirite?) Unless you're goot at edge guarding them (its not too hard, down smash is solid.). Try to scare them into using their up b early and forcing them onto the stage.

**** like that.

 

[MikeHaggarTHAKJB]

does sh uair outprioritize nair? i thought it traded hits. im prolly just spacing it wrong tho lol

another cool thing you can do out of uthrow on chars where uthrow uair wont work is to sort of overspace a bair (fulljump, double jump and do bair at the same time so you cover a big area with the bair). If you do it right you can hit them even if they jumped away, didn't jump away, or nair'd (fox's bair beats nair almost everytime, especially if you come from behind)

sometimes they'll be able to jump out of range anyway, depends on the char and %. Usually not tho, i've even gotten this to work against samus (bair beats bombs aswell, btw). This should work on mario at low % atleast, his double jump is slow and he doesn't have that much time to jump away

it doesn't lead anywhere but it covers every option they have out of uthrow (except airdodge?...) which is cool

 

[BrawlLover]

baiting is what it is all about

 

[unknown522]

it might trade if you're lucky, normally it out prioritizes mario most of the time regardless of spacing. The matchup is ridiculously hard for mario (no anti-pressure, no priority, no range, can't grab).

 

[halcyon.days]

Question about ledge hopping to waveland on the stage...

I want to make it so that as soon as I let go of the ledge, and I immediately jump, I can waveland.
However with Fox (and also Mario), it actually looks like I'm triangle jumping onto the stage. The only way I can make a "smooth" waveland on the stage is to let go of the edge and jump at a lower height so that the peak of my jump is slightly higher than the stage and then waveland onto it. However, this is more easy to see coming.

Am I just not air dodging into the ground fast enough after I let go of the edge?

 

[Wind Owl]

Am I just not air dodging into the ground fast enough after I let go of the edge?

Yes. Don't wait for the peak of your jump, wait for you to be aligned with the stage.

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

You have to pretty much airdodge immediately. Press down to drop off, instantly jump and move the stick diagonally forward down, then press L/R. Kind of risky since it's really easy to do it too early and fall to your death.

 

[BrawlLover]

It's my birthday.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

yayyyy birthday

 

[BrawlLover]

I'M fEEling this!!!!

 

[DtJ Jungle]

yayyy celebration

 

[BrawlLover]

Celebrate it!!!! UGH! FEELIN THIS!

 

[DtJ Jungle]

game day baby!!!

 

[BrawlLover]

feel the GAME!!!!

 

[Shök]

Celebrate!

*Claps*

​

 

[DtJ Jungle]

feel the POWER

 

[Shök]

Power!

Happy birthday BrawlLover!​

 

[halcyon.days]

It's my birthday.

Happy Birthday.

Mine was yesterday lol.

 

[MikeHaggarTHAKJB]

considering the current topic of this thread i have reached to the conclusion that brawlover is fox

 

[DtJ Jungle]

show your work

 

[RaynEX]

...

I'm glad to see to see this thread hasn't been spammed lately.

>_>

 

[brawlpro]

I know right

 

[DtJ Jungle]

someone always brings it back to topic :/

 

[ICEDTEA1325]

idk how it happened but i was playing fox because my friend wanted fox practice and i had a light shield on when i wasn't pressing any buttons. i thought it was my controller but then i went over another persons house and he was lpaying fox(different controller) and his fox did it to. is this a glitch?

 

[L__]

reset your controllers.

 

[BrawlLover]

let me tolly bwing it all back yuh!

so l8ke, im a fox, and l7ke, i phantasm and here there too, but like how do i make it how long it should be like when my m1nd thinks aboat it how i can control it

rawrful!

woot woot

 

[brawlpro]

like

...

what

 

[BrawlLover]

wow pffft get *****

 

[halcyon.days]

So on Yoshi's Story you can ledgehop and waveland on the platform right above the ledge.

Any other stages that have things like this?

 

[KirbyKaze]

you can do it on battlefield and stuff it's just not as useful because your invincibility runs out and stuff.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

SW says you can do it on dreamland...also useless.. just flashy.

 

[MikeHaggarTHAKJB]

you can do it on dreamland. it's very good also.
It's not that hard if you do it like I do:
1. Press down far enough to fall from the edge, but not far enough to fast fall. Yes this is possible and it takes some precision, but after a little bit of practice it gets easy
2. jump ASAP, and I really do mean ASAP. Try to do it to early at first.
3. waveland on the platform

Most people cant do it b/c they fast fall so the window for jumping becomes very small. or because they press away so they need to neutralize the stick before they jump (otherwise they jump away). but if you do it like i said it becomes much easier

 

[Tero.]

you can do it on dreamland. it's very good also.
It's not that hard if you do it like I do:
1. Press down far enough to fall from the edge, but not far enough to fast fall. Yes this is possible and it takes some precision, but after a little bit of practice it gets easy
2. jump ASAP, and I really do mean ASAP. Try to do it to early at first.
3. waveland on the platform

Most people cant do it b/c they fast fall so the window for jumping becomes very small. or because they press away so they need to neutralize the stick before they jump (otherwise they jump away). but if you do it like i said it becomes much easier

You could also just press away on the c-stick ...

 

[RaynEX]

It works on Battlefield and FoD too. This trick can be basically used on all neutrals except Poke Stadium and FD for obvious reasons.

But on pokemon you can just ledge-hop illusion and edge-cancel it off the platforms so meh. :D

 

[halcyon.days]

It works on Battlefield and FoD too. This trick can be basically used on all neutrals except Poke Stadium and FD for obvious reasons.

But on pokemon you can just ledge-hop illusion and edge-cancel it off the platforms so meh. :D

Could you explain further? Wouldn't you have to shorten your illusion to edge-cancel it?

 

[L__]

You ledgehop away from the stage, and when you are level with the platform, just illusion.

 

[Tero.]

Could you explain further? Wouldn't you have to shorten your illusion to edge-cancel it?

No you dont have to shorten the illusion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVr4GHAL6-M