Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-

[Dr Peepee]

KK I just beat Mango's Fox when we play it's pretty fun to do/watch though. =p

 

[KirbyKaze]

I am aware of how the results go but you're not seriously going to tell me that West vs Mango is higher quality Falco Fox than you and Mango >_>

The layers of strategy & spacing are so much more pronounced and there are all these cool subtleties.

 

[Dr Peepee]

oh I misread your post then lol

yeah we got cutesies

 

[KirbyKaze]

And finesse. Can't forget finesse.

 

[omgwtfToph]

I was gonna write some random stuff about Fox vs Falco but then KK said everything forever. o_O

Edit: Also <33

 

[rokimomi]

lolol, ever since this:

I can say anything and someone on the boards will believe it.

I've been cautious about kk advice, but so far it looks legit

 

[KirbyKaze]

Toph you can have green in our future Fox dittos.

 

[Scidadle]

What's the best option vs double laser from the ledge as fox? I always seem to get stuffed by it.

 

[voorhese]

Jump above them and bair (sit on platform above it if it is there). or cc/shield then shine them.

 

[Brookman]

Down b you noob


u_u;

 

[unknown522]

Shine oos

Or take one and shine

 

[DerfMidWest]

I've found success with running shield->shine OoS on ledgehop double laser falco stuff...
But my falco friend does them ****ty and predictably so it might not actually work that well...


Nvm unknown ninja'd me <_<

 

[Warhawk]

Mango looks like he changed up quite a few things with his Fox, really interested to see it against Armada again or maybe PP or M2K (though for those two he'll probably stay Falco unless its friendlies).

 

[omgwtfToph]

Toph you can have green in our future Fox dittos.

TRUE HOMIE RIGHT HERE

I actually don't know if I could do it though, dude. I always let the superior player have their main color.

 

[KirbyKaze]

You're such a sweetie.

 

[unknown522]

Superior player lol

 

[Strong Badam]

racism up in here

 

[KirbyKaze]

5-hit purple combo

 

[Strong Badam]

Purple is like my favorite color that isn't red.

 

[PGH Carroll]

sorry to ruin your moment.
had 2 gamble.

 

[Scidadle]

I heard down-b was a bad move



EDIT: Pink > Purple

 

[ShroudedOne]

Orange is the best (on Fox and SWF names).

Or whatever this awkward color is. Kinda like a pumpkin orange sorta thing.

 

[genkaku]

apparently orange fox can actually win tournaments.

 

[Cyan_]

edit: I'm going to be more active for a while because this game has become a lot more fun recently. Mostly because of Weon, Unknown, Europhoria, and Jethrotex. Toronto smash feels more homely lately.

hell yea

coffee and I looking to level up quickly

edit: wtf i lost my double roy icon, so lame

 

[unknown522]

Double Roy!

What does it mean?

 

[Wenbobular]

Random combo on Peach

At around 10% waveshine uptilt uair uair uair on Battlefield
If Peach DIs to the middle the first Uair will put her right above the top platform, the second Uair will launch her high, and the last Uair will kill

 

[FluxWolf]

and she has to mess up getting out of uair 3 times in a row x)

just sayin homie

 

[unknown522]

And various other things.

But yeah, you'll probably get it to work once in a while

 

[Wenbobular]

After the first Uair you can probably space it so you only hit with the 2nd hit
Just saying homie


I was just throwing out a combo idea xD

Man I'm super hyped for Big House

 

[voorhese]

I may have posted about this b4, but recently I have been experimenting with boost grabbing people off of the ground. I believe non jc/standing grabs have a lower hitbox, and I have been able to lane boost
grabs out of waveshines on fox/falco pretty consistently now. It may not be SUPER good or anything, but I think it is a nice mixup to deal with people who know how to smash DI out of jab resets =)

 

[Wenbobular]

OH GOD IT WORKS why does it look so stupid

 

[KirbyKaze]

and she has to mess up getting out of uair 3 times in a row x)

just sayin homie

You underestimate how bad the average floaty player's DI is.

 

[Bones0]

I think I've only had someone SDI out of my uairs like 10 times ever. lol

 

[KirbyKaze]

All mockery aside, decent floaty players often do have decent consistency at SDIing uairs after u-throw. But I find they're bad at SDIing stray ones. I think it has to do with how the alignment between Fox and <floaty> is different after u-throw than it is after lower launchers (Fox's uair is meatier, which means escaping it probably requires an SDI to the side rather than up in a lot of positions) and they're also probably more familiar with the u-throw's SDI timing window because that's what gets drilled into their head.

Regarding Wenbo's thing specifically... I don't see a drawback with going for that kind of thing instead of a more typical shine combo (since u-tilt > aerial can probably work even if you don't get the specific punish you wanted) as long as the Peach will be knocked over by the shine > u-tilt if she attempts to crouch on it. But I like u-tilt stuff in general so maybe I'm biased.

 

[knightpraetor]

yeah, people suck at this game. one of the guys i'm teaching already smash DI's more than 1/3 upairs and we really only drilled for a few minutes. I swear some people have never sat down and tried to learn it.

stray upairs are harder to deal with cause you worry they might be bairs

 

[omgwtfToph]

Double Roy!

What does it mean?

LOLOL whoosh

 

[Cactuar]

I may have posted about this b4, but recently I have been experimenting with boost grabbing people off of the ground. I believe non jc/standing grabs have a lower hitbox, and I have been able to lane boost
grabs out of waveshines on fox/falco pretty consistently now. It may not be SUPER good or anything, but I think it is a nice mixup to deal with people who know how to smash DI out of jab resets =)

Inferno Omni was doing this back in late 2007 but it never caught on for whatever reason.

 

[Bones0]

What advantage does boost grabbing have over JCing? I don't get how a lower hitbox helps, and I don't even know what lane boosting is... I also have never had any issues grabbing people out of waveshines.

 

[Wenbobular]

As in ... instead of thunders combo you just boost/dash grab them

We're talking about characters that fall over from shine

 

[Bones0]

Oh, okay, that makes way more sense. What's a lane boost though?