Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-

[robyextreme]

haha nice logic.

1 player wins national with peach = suddenly shiek/marth/fox cannot win national

 

[KirbyKaze]

I wish Sheik was a good character capable of winning big tournaments.

 

[sanchaz]

I wish Sheik was a good character capable of winning big tournaments.

Sheik is a good character. Each of the top five characters have a great chance in winning a major.

I believe its the player's fault that messes up simple Sheik gameplay, such as giving up position, or losing their patience against a fox.

 

[lord karn]

I know this is kinda late to the fair discussion that was going on earlier, but I started experimenting with it again. I've found that it's really good to use against opponents standing on the edge of a platform with their shield up. The first hit will knock them off, and the second will come out immediately and hit them. Using other aerials is risky because they can land pretty fast and shield or do a fast aerial.

 

[Zoler]

Sheik is a good character. Each of the top five characters have a great chance in winning a major.

I believe its the player's fault that messes up simple Sheik gameplay, such as giving up position, or losing their patience against a fox.

Sheik cannot win a national either, just like fox, marth and falcon.

 

[Divinokage]

Ganon can win a national, I just suck just like everyone.

 

[Zoler]

Ganon can win a national, I just suck just like everyone.

If fox cannot, do you think ganon can? Noob.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Sheik is a good character. Each of the top five characters have a great chance in winning a major.

I believe its the player's fault that messes up simple Sheik gameplay, such as giving up position, or losing their patience against a fox.

You clearly didn't read the thread.

 

[unknown522]

Damnit people. Stop feeding the troll

 

[Divinokage]

If fox cannot, do you think ganon can? Noob.

From my experiences, Fox is as good as Ganon. I probably have as many vids ****** them than getting owned by them. lol.

 

[Bones0]

So much exposition.

 

[Silent Wolf]

yea thats cuz everyone sucks vs ganon. theres like 4 ganons and 400 foxes. if it were the other way around youd get 4 stocked lol

 

[Divinokage]

Lol no way, I'd still **** them.

It's not because you suddenly know the matchup that you get an automatic win.

 

[Bones0]

Everyone knowing the Fox matchup is a relevant factor in whether or not he will ever win a national.

 

[Bing]

I was just thinking, If Mango would have beaten Armada in Winners finals or whatever it was at Apex. That would have ment that Armada would be playing Hbox in Losers finals. Now knowing that Hbox took to Armada to the second set in gfs. Does anyone think that We could have had a Mango vs Hbox gfs?


Just curious lol

 

[Wake]

Kage, Ganon is so bad.

 

[Lovage]

Isn't it kinda obvious that only puff, peach and falco can win nationals? Look at the results!

viiiirrrrrrgiiiinnn


edit: barren ****

 

[omgwtfToph]

im p sure ppl are joking oscr

 

[Silent Wolf]

I'm just giving u **** kage lol

 

[KirbyKaze]

It's not because you suddenly know the matchup that you get an automatic win.

 

[PK Webb]

No m2k, no mango (scorp is not mango), no PP

jman beat mangos marth at that tourney and what about genesis 2 when mango won with fox?????

 

[KirbyKaze]

LOL at your first comment. And Mango didn't win Genesis 2.

 

[Divinokage]

You spilled your drink from your mouth why? lol.

 

[PK Webb]

whoops my bad that was a dream i had kk. well jman tapped that secondary marth ok

 

[Palpi]

im p sure ppl are joking oscr

you say p sure?! yesssss

thats p cool

 

[Divinokage]

^ Who are you, again? You've disappeared in darkness!

 

[Pachinkosam]

His a dog that doesnt belong here obv

 

[Aefice]

which fox players do you guys think are the best at manipulating their opponent?

apart from mango javi

whose got mind games

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

if you are looking for rudimentary things, every top fox has tricks you can learn. Every one of them manipulates their opponents. If you play in patterns you lose.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Dash attack à la SSB64 vs a Falcon recovering high and dropping to either the edge or stage. Is this a good option? It has been working out pretty well for me since I can stay on stage, cover Falcon recovering to the edge and also on-stage. It does have some flaws where a perfectly spaced weave avoids it...

But it dash attack viable in edgeguarding Falcon?

 

[Van.]

why not? it gets you a bair, and thats as good as anything else. just don't let him land

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

yeah sometimes i dash attack when they go for the edge. The real key to edgeguarding falcon is to always react to his movements and not fall for the bait. Unless he can edge-cancel, you can simply stand with your nose to the edge and wait. If he goes back, ftilt or w/e. If he goes on stage, usmash/uair -> combo/kill

 

[Jim Morrison]

And when they sweetspot? Just attempt to shine them down and risk getting hugged by Falcon?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

falcon can sweetspot?

Spoiler

no, no he can't

 

[Smooth Criminal]

I thought Falcon's reverse Up-B could sweetspot?

The situation would be extremely rare in that case if it were true, but still.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Well lets define "sweetspot".

Falcon always sticks his head above the stage, the reverse upb doesn't go any lower, it simply is farther from the stage so sometimes dodges attacks.


In any case, falcon coming from below is really bad. Just dsmash, dash attack, ftilt, nair, ANYTHING. They all hit. Thats assuming you can't just grab the edge, which is the best edgeguard.

Falcon's recovery is much better from above, though its still not that good.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Ah, okay. That makes sense.

Thanks, Sveet.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Bones0]

I wouldn't recommend dsmash because of the tech. I just grab the ledge, or if I don't have time, walk off shine. lol

 

[mers]

i won a tourney with fox yesterday

therefore

fox can win nationals

lololol

 

[Sixth-Sense]

Question: i've been having a hard time usmash out of shine, usually i do it like....20% of the time? how to get consistent in doing that and does it have to be running? because when i do pull it off, only when i'm dashing/running because when i do it standing it doesn't work. i'm not sure if it's DI or where i hit them with the shine.

Oh and HOW DO I GET SHDL DOWN? i can only do in 3/4 of the normal speed in training mode. HOW do you learn the timing or do you just have to be really fast? Thanks