omgwtfToph
Smash Master
otto def finished dkc lol
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Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-
- Thread starter Silent Wolf
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JPOBS
Smash Hero
edit: nevermind
Silent Wolf
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i beat the single segment world record bro. then tjp beat it a couple weeks later lol. ima beat when i get back into it fsho
Lovage
Smash Hero
oh shee i never saw lol
linkz PLZ
linkz PLZ
Aber
Smash Journeyman
- Joined
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmWNmflErTg
my fox still sucks but im determined to get better with fox for matchups such as shiek or puff
advice?
my fox still sucks but im determined to get better with fox for matchups such as shiek or puff
advice?
Lovage
Smash Hero
stop teching in place holy moley
edit: dont cancel out when the match isnt over...........
edit: dont cancel out when the match isnt over...........
Bing
Smash Master
Yeah needs more get up attack!
Im kidding, listen to Lovage, not me, Im stupid.
Im kidding, listen to Lovage, not me, Im stupid.
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
yo, so like... my hands are ******** and don't listen to me...
apparently I'm unable to make myself SH out of shine quickly without tap jump...
I realized that i use tap jump to jc shines usually and decided to try and fix that... it didn't work very well...
for some reason, i can only full hop out of shine with the x/y buttons, unless i go hella slow (like to the point where it doesn't even matter if the shine is jc'd).
I thought that i'd fixed it for awhile, but it turned out i was still using tap jump and didn't realize it.
now i'm all mad and stuff.
are there any things i can do to make my hands listen to me more and have like... not lead thumbs?
I've been practicing this everyday for like a month now, btw...
apparently I'm unable to make myself SH out of shine quickly without tap jump...
I realized that i use tap jump to jc shines usually and decided to try and fix that... it didn't work very well...
for some reason, i can only full hop out of shine with the x/y buttons, unless i go hella slow (like to the point where it doesn't even matter if the shine is jc'd).
I thought that i'd fixed it for awhile, but it turned out i was still using tap jump and didn't realize it.
now i'm all mad and stuff.
are there any things i can do to make my hands listen to me more and have like... not lead thumbs?
I've been practicing this everyday for like a month now, btw...
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Unknown should stream a let's play with me. For SSBM.
Really, I just mean we should play Melee because IMPULSE is coming up.
Aesir, just get used to moving from B to the jump buttons more effectively. You're still new so if you find another button input works better (if you're X right now, maybe try Y) it shouldn't be unreasonably hard to switch. Consider the standard claw - I love it for my FCs, ledgehop bairs, up smashes, and unlike Javi's I still have a finger near the Z button (so grabbing isn't a chore).
It's also possible you're just having bad days. Though you should still practice because bad days are a reflection of technical inconsistency (which can only be fixed by playing and figuring out better ways or doing your inputs or just building the muscle memory itself).
Also, remember to practice your stuff hitting people and not hitting people. The timings are different. Kill yourself periodically to refresh your moves (fresh vs stale can be really, really noticeable on stuff like bairs).
Really, I just mean we should play Melee because IMPULSE is coming up.
Aesir, just get used to moving from B to the jump buttons more effectively. You're still new so if you find another button input works better (if you're X right now, maybe try Y) it shouldn't be unreasonably hard to switch. Consider the standard claw - I love it for my FCs, ledgehop bairs, up smashes, and unlike Javi's I still have a finger near the Z button (so grabbing isn't a chore).
It's also possible you're just having bad days. Though you should still practice because bad days are a reflection of technical inconsistency (which can only be fixed by playing and figuring out better ways or doing your inputs or just building the muscle memory itself).
Also, remember to practice your stuff hitting people and not hitting people. The timings are different. Kill yourself periodically to refresh your moves (fresh vs stale can be really, really noticeable on stuff like bairs).
Bing
Smash Master
That would actually be really interesting lol.
I feel like deleting my save file of Melee and rushing through and seeing how long it would take me to unlock everything again.
I feel like deleting my save file of Melee and rushing through and seeing how long it would take me to unlock everything again.
Engo
Smash Ace
I speedran the old classic "Turkeys 2: Turkey's Crest".
Jethrotex
Smash Journeyman
I'd pay money to see that, it would of course be Monopoly money, but money none the less.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Jethrotex, read the Peach tactics thread in the Peach forum. I posted my Marth edgeguard strats. You should steal & improve on them once you get the hang of them (and maybe make your own if something clicks).
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genkaku
Guest
why would it be optimal to SH out of shine with Y and not analog? Is it just to make everything come back to Y for muscle-memory's sake?
unknown522
Some guy
YES! Both games are so legit. I've been speedrunning MMZ 1-3 as of recent actually.
Harpuia avatar?
lol, yeah.yeah i made this avatar with paint. lol.
toph im looking forward for that rematch
im a based carroll fan <3 still duno what based means but i like it. about the lets play. we eventually beat the game on expert but it was hard as hell lol. green is a monster
@ jpobs. im really not that quiet. its just that u talk soooooooo much when im there. i cant find a moment to talk lol
I'm trying to learn all the glitches for oot. I've done the wrong warp to ganon's castle a few times, but I haven't done a full MST run. I want to speedrun it so bad (any% is easy. I'll probably be on the leaderboards soon for that).
give me a call I guess. Camilo is over at my house right now
edit: scratch that. No internet on my phone atm. Call camilo if needed
Jethrotex
Smash Journeyman
I was actually reading that just as I saw this.
Bing
Smash Master
It begins.... Canada takes over the fox boards!
Warhawk
Smash Lord
unknown522
Some guy
oh yeah, super metroid is really legit. I love watching speedruns of that game
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
Lovage
Smash Hero
full MST run is really daunting to learn to run, it's like 3 hours long and there's like 1000 tricks you gotta get good at. i was pretty good at child dungeons which is a 50 min run/race that just beats all 3 dungeons as young link in any order. the route is pretty sick but i got lazy and never finised the later (easier) parts.
http://youtu.be/3Ay1X-TSX4c
http://youtu.be/3Ay1X-TSX4c
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Super Metroid was really hard for me to complete, but it was really fun (though I never beat it).
Tee ay eye
Smash Hero
learn to speed run some game on an old school nintendo console (n64 and earlier)
unknown522
Some guy
yeah, child dungeons are pretty cool. I've never attempted a run myself yet, but I've watched a bunch.
I wanna do MST as my main one, but I'm gonna need a bit more time to get some of the tricks down (haven't even gotten to try the spirit hover yet).
Silent Wolf
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yo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxfoW4zmZ3I
tjp beat it with 36:27 cuz of a couple glitches. i need to practice them. toph sat there and watched me do this on my first try lol
PGH Carroll
Smash Master
TAI with the best fox advice ever.
Speed is the key after all
Speed is the key after all
omgwtfToph
Smash Master
yea dude. Based Harpuia
Lovage
Smash Hero
agreed speedrunning is fking boring for me now i can't stand doing it
prolly have a different opinion if i didn't play zelda cuz that **** is like half cutscenes lol.
prolly have a different opinion if i didn't play zelda cuz that **** is like half cutscenes lol.
unknown522
Some guy
up until MMZ3, I thought he was a girl (****ing voice man). Then they said 'he' in the dialogue at some point, and I was like 'he...?' But yeah, he's a pretty cool character
Leviathan is a boss
Bones0
Smash Legend
Lovage/Silent Wolf/anyone, how do you shine-usmash?
Tap jump makes it retardedly easy to jump out of shine asap. However, once you CAN use Y to jump out asap, you have a lot more control over the analog. I would consider Y better in the long run, but at the same token, I know someone who uses the analog for all their SHs, and on average they're a little faster at it than me.
voorhese
Smash Master
press shine, then UP both sticks.
Lovage
Smash Hero
this is what i do and it werks for me
if you wanna learn it this way it might be a good choice. just practice on lv 1 foxs on dreamland lol.
learn how to punish mid-high% missed techs + techs in place with running shine usmash. it does more damage, often works better for positioning, and will kill really early on peach and sheik.
SUB-ADVICE:
learn how to FORCE people to miss their techs by using weird hitboxes or attacking at unexpected times. an unexpected fastfall bair + bad DI and missed tech on their part is an easy setup for shine usmash. sounds dumb/inconsistent but welcome to 99% of the ppl that play this game everyone sux it works a lot lol.
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genkaku
Guest
I got two shine upsmashes screwing around in friendlies with a peach yesterday and it felt soooo goooood. Lol.
Bones0
Smash Legend
Yeah, I figured most people use the double sticks. I use tap jump + A cause I don't think I can go from B to up on the C-stick that fast. :/
Warhawk
Smash Lord
Using double sticks to upsmash out of anything sounds better than up and A but I can't get myself to start trying it lol.
Silent Wolf
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you compete with other ppl who do the speed run. but yea its def different
do a better game. speedrunning a game like that is not wussup lol
speedruns 4 lyfe
Sizzle
I paint controllers
crush
Smash Master
I did three shine-upsmashes on foxlisk's falco after a uthrow-waveshine a few weeks ago. i still lost the match though.
tldr: foxlsik is gay