Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-

[unknown522]

rokimomi, did we ever meet in person?

did you go to Sweet 4, or big house?

 

[rokimomi]

yes, went to both, I was pretty new at sweet 4 though, and at big house, I was getting in as many friendlies as humanly possible, so we probly never crossed

 

[Bones0]

I dare you to play Melee after weed whacking. It UNwarms you up about 5 years.

 

[Warhawk]

Downthrow techchase is super legit.

In what situations is it best used? Or are you just saying in general? Because personally I hate down-throwing with Fox (and Falco for that matter).

 

[unknown522]

yes, went to both, I was pretty new at sweet 4 though, and at big house, I was getting in as many friendlies as humanly possible, so we probly never crossed

ahh, I hear ya

 

[Bones0]

Dthrow is good by the ledge because you can just dash towards the center for roll in, and if they roll out then they are an Autobot and won't be able to roll past the ledge.

 

[unknown522]

haha. Good one

 

[Bones0]

No, I'm serious. If you tech roll towards a nearby ledge you will just roll in place.

 

[Warhawk]

Yea I figured that and potentially for platform chases but I think earlier in the thread (like 20 pages ago) Cactuar was talking about using it for more situations (at least it seemed) and I'm wondering if he'd discuss what other ways he uses it.

 

[unknown522]

No, I'm serious. If you tech roll towards a nearby ledge you will just roll in place.

I know

 

[PGH Carroll]

dont be so easily fooled... ill believe it when i see it!

 

[unknown522]

D-throw sucks on platforms.

They can always DI off with no hitstun

Edit: unless you're on the edge of yoshi's side platforms cuz then you'll kill yourself.

Then again, meteor cancel ruins this all together. And various other things, but meh

 

[PGH Carroll]

CRITIQUE MY FOX PLZZZZ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sWCl5ty-nc&t=18s

 

[omgwtfToph]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOyVSvXINSw#t=234m25s

get one-upped by lovage

(it's ok, happens to the best of us)

 

[Strong Badam]

what the **** did i just
what the ****

 

[Erkekjetter]

I dare you to play Melee after weed whacking. It UNwarms you up about 5 years.

This 1000 times. My summer job involves endless weed whacking. It ruins my hands for the whole summer plus at least a month

 

[Cactuar]

I just use dthrow whenevet it feels right. It was super useful in pulling some massive control setups on swiftbass over the weekend. The matches were close enough that it made the difference.

I was way in the zone though, so not too sure how it looked from spectator/opponent pov. Would like swift's opinion on it before trying to break it down. Might have just worked because of how unexpected it was.

Also, daaaaaaaaaamn @ that lovage clip.

 

[Sinji]

One of the best mind games Iv'e seen in a while. Good stuff Lovage.

 

[unknown522]

Lovage, what was up with your sets?

were you in a bad mood or something?

 

[Stratford]

Question -

Is Fox's upair actually stronger than his upsmash in PAL? Is his upair nerfed at all?

 

[unknown522]

I'm pretty sure his up-smash is still stronger.

u-air is unchanged, but the reason it kills faster is because you usually combo in the air with hit, whereas up-smash can only be used on the ground

 

[Bones0]

I know

I know you know.

 

[KirbyKaze]

He knew you knew he knew. Did you know that?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

I know I didn't.

 

[Bones0]

He knew you knew he knew. Did you know that?

If he knew I knew he'd known, he would've known not to post confirmation of his knowledge, which only serves to imply that I actually didn't know he knew. You must be knew here to knot know these things.


This isn't spam, it's a metaphor for Yomi.

 

[Brookman]

This is lookin like some Death Note **** in here.

 

[Zoler]

Question -

Is Fox's upair actually stronger than his upsmash in PAL? Is his upair nerfed at all?

When playing NTSC after being used to PAL, a lot of the times you just think "damn uair so useless in this game, upsmash is x10 stronger" and then you go back to PAL "upsmash is useless"

 

[KirbyKaze]

Fox's uair is the better combo move in many common situations in NTSC. For a bunch of reasons. U-tilt is similarly better than up smash in a ton of common situations (and for significant percent ranges).

 

[unknown522]

When playing NTSC after being used to PAL, a lot of the times you just think "damn uair so useless in this game, upsmash is x10 stronger" and then you go back to PAL "upsmash is useless"

U-air is amazing!!!!

Also u-tilt is still really underused...

 

[rokimomi]

on falcon: uthrow > utilt, rinse repeat

 

[PGH Carroll]

fox's uptilt is my favorite "move" EVER
followed my the slip'n'slide from NBA Street
and the dougie

 

[Bones0]

Someone needs to mod DJ Cucumber Slice into Melee.

Lasagna on the grill!
Your D is like moldy Swiss cheese, man... full of holes.
Block party! Everybody's invited!

I even know just the right song for the menu screen...

 

[Lovage]

dude toph.

i really wanna thank you for timestamping that youtube video and linking it.

i go back to this thread several times a day to watch it 2-3x. thx men..

 

[Bones0]

Was there are reason you jabbed instead of shined?

 

[Wenbobular]

You can't run out of a shine haha

 

[Bones0]

I figured that was the reasoning, but you can just as easily WD out.

 

[Lovage]

not at all. shining and then WDing back and then usmashing is 600 times slower than jabbing, then running around and usmashing

jabbed there cuz i thought he might roll turns out he did whoopie

 

[S l o X]

god damn lovage.

 

[leffen]

waveshining ->usmash is definitely faster than jab->run->usmash
by the time jab ends you have already started your usmash with waveshine :o
people tend to roll after jabs tho LOL

even though they have a guaranteed shieldgrab/punish/escape after every jab >_>

 

[Bones0]

Yeah, that's what confused me. I was like, "lol no shield grab?"