Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-

[Silent Wolf]

i dont think dtilt is good vs falcon like that. a lot of the time he jumps over it. maybe not a lot, but enough to make it risky and not that great.

 

[JPOBS]

I said falcon's haha, not falco's. Sometimes, against falcon's nair, you can fish for waveland back dtilt or cc dtilt or just trade dtilt with falcon's nair. idk, I've done it in some tournament sets when I needed some clutch **** to pull out and I think it's pretty good.

yea I know you said falcon, that was a typo on my part.

But still, I'm not really picturing this. Dtilt has enough vertical range to disrupt Falcon's nair? I've never used it in the neutral range so idk

 

[omgwtfToph]

It's more like, throw it out when he's landing with the nair. You kinda have to bait an approach out and then react with it.

 

[Sinji]

Dtilt works really well against pikachu. Iv'e tried it a bit last night and it can open up a shine turnaround bair around 75-85%.

 

[FoxLisk]

Dtilt ***** raptor boost, which falcons near me like to pretend is an approach.

 

[ShroudedOne]

Everything ***** raptor boost.

 

[Bing]

Wavedash PoS is pretty good I find

 

[FrootLoop]

It's more like, throw it out when he's landing with the nair. You kinda have to bait an approach out and then react with it.

from that read/spacing you can just usmash his nair or turnaround and utilt though

 

[omgwtfToph]

CC that comes inherent in dtilt makes it better in some ways. Yeah I'm a fan of usmashing falcon's nair too though.

 

[Bones0]

I would be way to scared of them kneeing to try to CC dtilt a nair. I get kneed no matter I try to do though. -.-

 

[unknown522]

CC u-smash would Almost always be better. D-tilt and u-smash both come out frame 7,but sadly d-tilt has different hitboxes, so depending on where you hit, you may just get nothing for it........or punished depending on percents

 

[Brookman]

i dont think dtilt is good vs falcon like that. a lot of the time he jumps over it. maybe not a lot, but enough to make it risky and not that great.

Falcon (in the hands of good players especially) is WAY FAST. I think Down Tilt really shines as anti-ground for vs. Sheik. Jab shuts down her dash attack reliably and shine is shine. Wavedash back Dtilt can be legit

 

[Bones0]

Falco (in the hands of good players especially) is WAY FAST. I think Down Tilt really shines as anti-ground for vs. Sheik. Jab shuts down her dash attack reliably and shine is shine. Wavedash back Dtilt can be legit

This made me do a double-take. lol

 

[BEHR]

yo also do some of you guys use some kinda of "Claw" system when holding the controller?

 

[Brookman]

To each their own. Your controller technique is up to you, do what works best. Make sure how ever you play your hands are as relaxed as possible. If you feel tension ever focus on relaxing. If you can't relax try holding the controller differently/positioning your arms differently.

 

[BEHR]

alright ima hold it with my ****.

 

[unknown522]

Falcon (in the hands of good players especially) is WAY FAST. I think Down Tilt really shines as anti-ground for vs. Sheik. Jab shuts down her dash attack reliably and shine is shine. Wavedash back Dtilt can be legit

you know that sheik's dash attack can clink with jab and keep going right?

 

[Sinji]

Yea what Brookman said do whatever feels comfortable to you. It also depends on the amount of experience you have with the game and your controller. If you feel synced with your tech skill, you can try out a claw method like curve your index finger around Y and have your thumb on A button.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

you know that sheik's dash attack can clink with jab and keep going right?

Ur avatar made this post so good

 

[unknown522]

haha, do you know where it's from?

 

[Bones0]

Don't use X to jump (unless you're clawing). Everything else is optional.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

haha, do you know where it's from?

I can't say I know the character, though the art style looks familiar..

 

[Sinji]

It also depends on the size of your fingers and the size of your controller. The gray controller is a little bit bigger then the black controller for example. Before buying a controller I look at my hands and determine if I should get a gray controller or another color controller.

 

[omgwtfToph]

Zhu and I were talking about potentially cosplaying Death the Kid to a convention sometime rofl.

 

[ShroudedOne]

Soul Eater is soo good. I should start reading it again, lol.

 

[unknown522]

I wish soul eater wasn't a monthly manga!!!!

But yeah, Death the Kid and Black Star are awesome

 

[L__]

death the kid is amazing

 

[BEHR]

It also depends on the size of your fingers and the size of your controller. The gray controller is a little bit bigger then the black controller for example. Before buying a controller I look at my hands and determine if I should get a gray controller or another color controller.

never knew that

I also heard White Controllers are the best, or something about the buttons are heavier. idk

 

[Silent Wolf]

white controllers are the worst lol. then platinum. then orange/black/purple/etc are the best

 

[Bones0]

I don't think I'd like a white controller because the stick is more sensitive to up-down movement than left-right. I like left-right to be easy because of dashing, and I like up-down to be a little more "snug" so I can be confident in stuff like dairing without FFing or uairing without DJing (though I've replaced most of these situations with c-stick, but there's still a few that I have stayed with the stick for).

 

[voorhese]

I have been messing around with platforms recently, and I really like pivot shield dropping into bair. Also i used to try and running shield drop into shine turn around waveland off of the platform to get to the ledge and such, but I just running jc turn around shine to wavedash off now because it is easier.

 

[Bones0]

Learn to ledge cancel shines. It's way faster than all of those, though you will need a good bit of distance unless you can ledge cancel grounded shines which I've only ever seen Lovage do in one of his obscure tech videos.

 

[voorhese]

that wouldn't help on platforms to get to the ledge, i think you need to actually have a waveland or wavedash to have momentum to get to ledges on like DL64 and such.

 

[Bones0]

I was talking about just running off a platform and doing a shine-turnaround, jumping as you slide off, and then you can bair instantly.

 

[voorhese]

the pivot shield drop lets you do the bair basically anywhere on the platform though, not just the end of it.

 

[Bones0]

Yeah, I mean I use shield drop like that all the time. I thought you were just looking for a fast way to get to the ledge with a bair. Nvm.

 

[Brookman]

Shield dropping X_X

 

[Sinji]

About the controller discussion, white is the worst. I have one and the b button is kinda twitchy so whenever I try to go for a side b, i sometimes shorten the illusion whenever I don't want to. Blue is the best IMO.

 

[Andy Lawliet]

Technically the Firefox stall works by letting go of the edge and instantly up B, right?
Like there shouldn't be any jump before the up B? My controller usually does it though. I doesnt't really seem like I have much influence on it and it ****s me up because I'm loosing important (invincibility) frames...

any advice?

 

[omgwtfToph]

If you up-B as soon as possible then it doesn't matter whether you get a jump input or not.