Ahh, then i completely misunderstood your post, sry
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Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-
- Thread starter Silent Wolf
- Start date
Dragmire
Smash Lord
it's ok
personally I enjoy shine + Fair into Uthrow Uair it gets **** done but other than that it's kinda useless
IrArby
Smash Ace
Gracias. Double laser has a really particular timing with that so that I end up doing just one laser or a Firefox. (Too late or too early with the B button)
Thanks again.
Next Question: What are the drawbacks to SHNair to UpSmash. I'd think against Space Animals that you can't Waveshine it'd set up for tech chase or a midair grab at low percents. Against someone more floaty, a la Marth, it puts him above you which is a bad position for him.
I don't see people using this and only just saw it last night for the first time so I haven't tested it. I'm guessing its not great since people aren't doing it much though.
Witchking_of_Angmar
Smash Lord
I think if they DI it correctly it doesn't work.
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
If Marth smash d.i.s away it'll miss and you lose your stock to his grab.
Then again, all the good Marths will be smart enough to CC your nair and grab you anyways, so its a lose/lose situation.
Just drill instead, it leads to everything you need: grab, usmash
Then again, all the good Marths will be smart enough to CC your nair and grab you anyways, so its a lose/lose situation.
Just drill instead, it leads to everything you need: grab, usmash
IrArby
Smash Ace
Thanks. I figured it wasn't so great just wanted to know why.
One more annoying question for SW and I'll keep the rest to myself for a week. Scouts honor.
If you use the ControlStickFlick method for SHDL do you use it for RSHDL as well? I don't know exactly how you do it but when I flick it to jump I completely let go of the stick afterwards so I'd think that letting go than grabbing the stick again to turn you around would be overly complicated. My idea of complicated on yours are obviously not the same though.
One more annoying question for SW and I'll keep the rest to myself for a week. Scouts honor.
If you use the ControlStickFlick method for SHDL do you use it for RSHDL as well? I don't know exactly how you do it but when I flick it to jump I completely let go of the stick afterwards so I'd think that letting go than grabbing the stick again to turn you around would be overly complicated. My idea of complicated on yours are obviously not the same though.
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
I use flicking for SHDL as well. Its really **** hard to flick for perfect length RSHDLs.
I think full distance ones are only possible with x or y.
I think full distance ones are only possible with x or y.
Yes, well I used to until my control got broke XP
All you have to do is dash towards any direcion then flick the Control Stick in the opposite upper direction, like 45 degrees to up left or right (depends on the direcion your facing) and get used to it. But you get the sexiest rshdl by using the x/y slide thumb method
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
lol I love how Silentwolf Oskurito answered the question IrArby asked. loll
(This was simply a blatent attempt at spamming w/ strike-out.
(This was simply a blatent attempt at spamming w/ strike-out.
Silent Wolf
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I use it for all forms of SHDL.
Lovage 805
Smash Champion
i use up for everything except wavedashes on the ground
pro statuss
pro statuss
Lovage 805
Smash Champion
are we 100% sure fox can't ledgehop waveland on dreamland platforms? falco can, BARELY
Actually I didn't even know you could do it on DL xD! (with falco) I just do that on YS and I usually drop laser or aerial after that
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
Fox's jump isn't high enough.
Fun fact, you can do it with Fox/Falco on Battlefield and FoD too.
FoD is actually better because you can wavedash backwards off the platform and edge-cancel aerials into an edge-hog. 0_0
Fun fact, you can do it with Fox/Falco on Battlefield and FoD too.
FoD is actually better because you can wavedash backwards off the platform and edge-cancel aerials into an edge-hog. 0_0
Silent Wolf
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He definitely jumps high enough to be over the platform at one point. Haven't tried it too much though.
Silent Wolf
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He did lol. I'll post them when it's not impossible.
tutata
Smash Ace
Wait you never did post that pick of you playing clay SW, you just posted some photo shopped pick of a claw holding a controller, i demand you post a pic of you holding your controller the way you do, now!, please XD
takieddine
Smash Master
You can ledgehop wavelandon battlefield with ease(with fox/falco). DL is just too much i think. I havent tried with falco, but it didnt seem like it would work.
GOTM
Smash Champion
do you mean onto one of the platforms, or just the stage? lol. thats probably a stupid question.
Lovage 805
Smash Champion
silent wolf holds his controller like everyone else lol
p.s. falco CAN waveland on the dreamland platforms, its just really hard. im not 100% sure if fox can't, but it seems like he can't do it
p.s. falco CAN waveland on the dreamland platforms, its just really hard. im not 100% sure if fox can't, but it seems like he can't do it
mikeHAZE
Smash Legend
that guys dum^
Dragmire
Smash Lord
that guys got kays^
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
No spamming Kidan, keep to the PMs.
brawlpro
Smash Master
lol uh wut
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
Kid is from Texas, and I already PMed him with information on how to post and where to do it.
CanISmash
Smash Lord
umm if you get caught in marth's forward b sword dance. are you caught in it is there anything you can do.
am i di-ing wrong? di tips, examples, etc.
nd ummmmm movement trixies anyone? dd/ dash forward, wave dash back gets predictable?
also is there anyway to approach with a u-tilt facing backwards w/o shining first or would it be better to shine first? j/w thanks.
am i di-ing wrong? di tips, examples, etc.
nd ummmmm movement trixies anyone? dd/ dash forward, wave dash back gets predictable?
also is there anyway to approach with a u-tilt facing backwards w/o shining first or would it be better to shine first? j/w thanks.
takieddine
Smash Master
Di behind them on the second hit, i think you can smash DI and end up behind them.
lol, perfect timing =D
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
At higher percents they can turn-around and grab or utilt.
At lower percents they can jab reset.
What do you guys think about just smash d.i.ing away and techrolling somewhere?