Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-

[takieddine]

yeah falco's shine is ridiculous sometimes, it can stop drill and nair with the top of it.

Also i've been experimenting with a trick that i just thought of, run, shine turnaround wdback, bair. It looks really sexy.

 

[Silent Wolf]

Fox's shine is bigger.

 

[CanISmash]

yeah falco's shine is ridiculous sometimes, it can stop drill and nair with the top of it.

Also i've been experimenting with a trick that i just thought of, run, shine turnaround wdback, bair. It looks really sexy.

lolol i've thought of that for the longest. but i just deem things too complicated but once i see vids i'd prolly put in work and learn it.

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

So, what to do if Marth falls to the shine and you can't waveshine combo him? You can't even thunders him in PAL, it's really gay.

 

[brawlpro]

Would shine > jc usmash > maybe an uair work?

 

[CanISmash]

screams grab to me.
but imma scrub.

 

[Falcinho]

running shine --> jc usmash works well

But against falling PAL-Marths just tech- or standup-chase.

At low %s they often don't tech and you can follow up with a shffl (-->utilt/grab/shine-->...)

 

[takieddine]

you could try shine>JC grab, ive made it work against shine fallers like Roy, Falco, and other Foxes. But you have to JC the shine really fast.

edit: scratch that thats to much work for little rewards, just drillgrab uthrow uair, thats still really gay.

 

[BlackPanther]

@takieddine - Completely off subject but are you the same guy in the 9000 video that brawlpro made lol?

 

[RaynEX]

Its gay that you can't gay Marth as much as he gay combos Fox with gay in PAL.

Man thats gay.

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

Marth is gayed too because he can't Ken Combo.

Thanks for the advice guys, I still hate PAL but at least I can work around it.

 

[takieddine]

@takieddine - Completely off subject but are you the same guy in the 9000 video that brawlpro made lol?

Yes, i know its a terrible video.

 

[brawlpro]

It's not that bad, look at the ratings + views + times favorite'd + the comments.

 

[RaynEX]

none of that changes the lulz factor of the video. >_>

 

[takieddine]

Its the best worst video there is.

 

[GOTM]

taki is it true your coming to smashtality? and with who?

 

[takieddine]

Yes sirr, with some guys who live just north of the city...its gonna be a good time.

 

[RaynEX]

I can't go anymore.

 

[GOTM]

Yes sirr, with some guys who live just north of the city...its gonna be a good time.

good **** bro. cant wait to see you

 

[takieddine]

So where are all the cool people at?

 

[IrArby]

So where are all the cool people at?

Sorry, I'm back.


sad lol


Actually, I've been trying to implement SW's techniqe of flicking the control stick up rather than trying to tap "X" to JC shines and its way faster. Within half an hour I was doing those "wet" JC shines where you don't even see the polygon just "shine droplets" or w/e the **** you call em. Not consitently though. Its definetly different and takes some getting used to.

SW, do you usually use the Control Stick Flick (yes I named it just now) to SH normally like when you're approaching with Nair or w/e, or is it just for JCshines? Combonation of both?

 

[Oskurito]

I think sw doesn't even do that >_>' He just slides his thumb from Y to B ridiculously fast

Hey, anytips on how to moonwalk really fast?

 

[PsychopathicEmus]

for short-hopping out of the shine, i like to use the x button..i've been trying the y and it works just as well, maybe better, but feels weird to me.

i've got a question though: i recently learned that i can do the whole shffl drill-shines thing that racks up mad damage in an infinite. i can do it when i'm just showing off in the middle of the stage, but when i try and actually put it to practical use, the short hop never comes out, i always end up stuck in the shine. that is, whenever i actually hit anybody with the shine, i can't seem to short-hop out of it, and i've tested this out with just a level 1 cpu and just trying to shine it and then short hop: can't do it. is there something i should know or do i just need to practice it more?

 

[ArcNatural]

There is hit lag. You can't jump out of the shine as fast as you normally would.

 

[PsychopathicEmus]

ahhhh, i see! thanks a bunch, man.

 

[IrArby]

Same question as Oskurito how does one moonwalk really fast?

And I'm almost positive that SW has said multiple times that he uses the ControlStickFlick to JC shines since he's noted for having a very sensitive controller and all that.

 

[Rukki]

Hey silentwolf I was wondering what do you think the best and most reliable technique is to perform multishines? I can perform up to 3 with fox and 4-5 with falco but the last one always leave them just above the ground? I usually just use Y and B and my pointer and middle fingers respectively.

 

[Tero.]

Who the hell needs multishines anyway ...

shine jc grab is was to underused ...

 

[brawlpro]

what do u mean moonwalk really fast? Just walk in one direction and input the moonwalk command the opposite direction...really fast...

 

[L__]

Same question as Oskurito how does one moonwalk really fast?
.

You don't moonwalk FASTER, you moonwalk farther.

 

[IrArby]

but to go Farther you've got to do it Faster right? But no matter how fast I do it, it doesn't go much farther or so it seems. I'm pretty sure SW uses the Y to B thumb slide for Multishines.

I agree though JCShine to Grab is underused (thanks DaShizWiz) but that raises another question for me at least. Does Fox's or Falco's Shine have more Shield/Hit Stun?

 

[brawlpro]

Pretty sure falco has more.

 

[Dragmire]

falco does has more

at least that would make sense as to pillar (lots of available time) compared to waveshine (little available time)

 

[Falcinho]

Do you really think it's easier to escape from a dair-shine-pillar than from waveshines against the shield? (all Falco)

 

[Silent Wolf]

no .

 

[Falcinho]

Was Dragmire joking or what am i missing?

 

[IrArby]

SW, question still stands. Do you use the Control Stick Flick method thing for jumping normally say when approaching with Nairs or do you use it just to JC Shines very quickly.

 

[Dragmire]

Was Dragmire joking or what am i missing?

I was basically saying Falco has more hitstun with shines than fox, because even a small screw up with waveshines and you can escape. but with falcos pillar there is a lot of available time to Dair Bair ETC due to hitstun.

 

[Zero_Gamer]

What is everyone's opinion on Fox's Fair? I've recently found some good uses to it as the strong part of it has just enough power to lead into a grab on just about anyone and the range is decent.

 

[Silent Wolf]

SW, question still stands. Do you use the Control Stick Flick method thing for jumping normally say when approaching with Nairs or do you use it just to JC Shines very quickly.

I use it to double laser and shine>aerial.