Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-

[Lovage]

i think the most efficient/reliable move to poke thru shields is dair

correctly executing 2-3 nair shines and then 1 dair shine will more than likely poke thru their shield and hit with a dair or shine. uair is cool but has too long of a startup to be reliable. it's 2011 no1 sits in their shield for that long during pressure anymore lol. (unless they're shield camping cuz u cant grab combo at the percent they're at.)

 

[Thanos828]

Is it still viable to wavedash behind the shield in case you mess up and get shield grabbed?

 

[Rubyiris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPtYUqg5bp8&feature=feedu <- Games 2 and 3 are Fox. Any critique would be appreciated.

 

[Palpi]

wavedash oos -> waveshine combos after a shielded dsmash from sheik...and waveshine ->dsmash is underused...

 

[Rubyiris]

yes I know, but i was missing all of my wave dashes. random spot dodges and short hops were failed attempts.

I played last tournament with a no-spring controller to power shield easier. This tournament I put it back in, but the right trigger wasn't put back on properly, and so I still couldn't analog shield, messing me up. My WD OOS accuracy was something like 5-10% for the entire day. Put everything back together Monday, and everything works properly.

Also, if you think I'm just johning, watch any of my sets from before this tournament. I do it to Shiek/Peach ALL the time.

I do agree with the waveshine -> dsmash. I see several occasions that it would have been a better option than whatever it was I went for.

 

[Palpi]

I would look at the matches in more detail but I have a **** ton of homework.

I am gonna post my money match with kage's falcon once it is uploaded...I didn't play as well as I'd hoped, but I managed to win a game.

 

[Divinokage]

^ Can't wait to see that one. =P

 

[Palpi]

I gotta hit the hyperbolic time chamber.

MM at Apex kage...I will get my revenge.

 

[Rubyiris]

Just practice specific things and make your game more consistent little by little.

 

[Palpi]

Yeah, I missed the easy punishes against Kage...I got a little ahead of myself. I need to be a little more on point.

 

[V3ctorMan]

This Is Fox thread, and stuff so I did wanna say

Happy Thanksgiving!!!

However for those of you viewing this thread now (as im posting)
Happy thanksgiving you guys!! n_n <3 you guys!

And for everyone else who views this thread later...etc..
Happy Thanksgiving!!

~Vman~

 

[PB&J]

Happy thanksgiving Fox mains!

Palpi- we played @ rom 4 right? we must play more @ Apex

 

[crush]

Palpi I didn't even get to play you let's play at apex

 

[Dart!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxehHe8Gz0s&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0pxBVp7ixo

fox in doubles, how does he work? i'm tired of using marth in teams and fox is really fun/good. help please?

 

[Wenbobular]

Always recover and spam upsmash OoS
Also grab people a lot because people sit in shield more in teams
Bair whenever you see someone flying toward you

 

[Rubyiris]

Fox can do pretty much anything he wants because he's broken.

*He can stock tank by platform camping and recovering high with a good peach/falcon/sheik/Puff
*He can rush *****s **** down with a good conservative teammate
*He can usmash people at ****ing random
*Grab people easily
*Hit people out of grabs easily
*Continue partner combos full-screen
*Bair people who come into your airspace

 

[Beat!]

He can also laser and taunt.

 

[Rubyiris]

I reserve most taunting to Falcon/Kirby.

 

[Palpi]

Happy thanksgiving Fox mains!

Palpi- we played @ rom 4 right? we must play more @ Apex

Yeah we did, in pools. I would've beat you day 2 with peach

Jokes aside, let's play at apex!

 

[unknown522]

Always recover and spam upsmash OoS
Also grab people a lot because people sit in shield more in teams
Bair whenever you see someone flying toward you

hmm. Mango says to never grab in teams

 

[FoxLisk]

hmm. Mango says to never grab in teams

mango doesn't like grabbing. at least, at P5 i was watching him play amsah and doing tons of shield pressure and someone shouted 'just grab him!' and he replied 'i dont like grabbing.'

 

[Divinokage]

hmm. Mango says to never grab in teams

I wouldn't say never but it's pretty bad when there's an opponent beside you, it's better to do it when the opponent is far away to start a massive 2v1 combo by reacting to the throw or just react to your ally's habit. Like let him do the combo first then hit him or hit him right after the throw, it depends how the team works.

 

[Wenbobular]

hmm. Mango says to never grab in teams

Ok fine haha it's a little more situational than that
But I think some people (a lot of people?) stay in shield a lot in teams and you can get a lot of free ones that way

Also if your teammate is a Jiggs or something with a kill move and you aren't playing against like ... a team that includes Falcon / Jiggs / someone else who can kill / put tons of damage on you instantly then I think grabbing benefits you a lot

So like, if the opposing team doesn't have ...
Jiggs
Peach
Falcon
Ganon
or something

Or just grab a lot in 2v1s <_< maybe that's what I was trying to say ... whatever
I think grabbing is great if you're smart about it

 

[Sinji]

Fox can do pretty much anything he wants because he's broken.

*He can stock tank by platform camping and recovering high with a good peach/falcon/sheik/Puff
*He can rush *****s **** down with a good conservative teammate
*He can usmash people at ****ing random
*Grab people easily
*Hit people out of grabs easily
*Continue partner combos full-screen
*Bair people who come into your airspace

I lol'ed after hearing this from a falco main.

 

[Beat!]

Do you disagree with any of his points? Because they look pretty accurate to me.

And Rubyiris plays Fox as well jfyi.

 

[Sinji]

I agree with his points, but it was posted on the fox thread. We can't discredit or own character on this thread.

 

[Beat!]

Wait, so you're just mad because he called Fox "broken"? Lmao.

And all things aside, You can't deny that Fox IS extremely good in teams. Anyone will tell you that.

 

[Navn]

Fox is arguably the best singles character, but i'm pretty certain he is the best in teams.

 

[_Rocky_]

Fox is arguably the best singles character, but i'm pretty certain he is the best in teams.

thissssssssssss

 

[Sauce Boss]

No one is mad because someone called fox broken. I'm pretty sure the entire community has gotten that already.

 

[Divinokage]

Fox is arguably the best singles character, but i'm pretty certain he is the best in teams.

Pretty much ya.

 

[unknown522]

I wouldn't say never but it's pretty bad when there's an opponent beside you, it's better to do it when the opponent is far away to start a massive 2v1 combo by reacting to the throw or just react to your ally's habit. Like let him do the combo first then hit him or hit him right after the throw, it depends how the team works.

Ok fine haha it's a little more situational than that
But I think some people (a lot of people?) stay in shield a lot in teams and you can get a lot of free ones that way

Also if your teammate is a Jiggs or something with a kill move and you aren't playing against like ... a team that includes Falcon / Jiggs / someone else who can kill / put tons of damage on you instantly then I think grabbing benefits you a lot

So like, if the opposing team doesn't have ...
Jiggs
Peach
Falcon
Ganon
or something

Or just grab a lot in 2v1s <_< maybe that's what I was trying to say ... whatever
I think grabbing is great if you're smart about it

oh, I'm just saying that he said that.


I grab in teams when I can

 

[Rubyiris]

I played Fox before I switched to Falco. I still use Fox 99% of the time in teams, and I go Fox vs Falco because Falco is free, and vs Shiek on FD, because Shiek is free on FD.

 

[Winston]

Give me Fox vs. Falco advice then Ruby D=

 

[PK Webb]

falco isnt free at all what r u talking about. come play some ec falcos and say they r free

 

[Dart!]

yeah falco has to be one of foxes hardest matchups. not that it isn't even or slight favor (i think its slight advantage falco. stagewise and stage controlwise)

 

[Wake]

That is my least favorite MU as Fox.

 

[ShroudedOne]

I like it sometimes, when I'm Fox. The combos are hilarious. The lasers are not. =(

 

[Wake]

The combos are hilarious...

Spoiler

for Falco

 

[ShroudedOne]

I think Fox has nice cool combos on his rival. Just...not to the extent that Falco has them on him.