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JPOBS

JPOBS

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no other team combination has the same raw killing power, gimping power (a rest is basically a gimp), survivability/team saves, and death combos as fox/puff.

When i look at the other "good" teams, they all are weaker in one or more areas significantly than fox/puff.

i seriously dont see an argument in favor of any other team.
 
voorhese

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arent most peoples fairs gimps? and besides that when i played ganon i used bair and uair as gimps (mainly uair) not often fair, i used fair offstage only when it was set up perfectly, on all other occasions it was a uair or bair.
 
voorhese

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lemme think. heres a list of fairs i think would most likely kill people offstage (assuming they are at most even with the edge) weegee, bowser, peach, falcon, ganon, zelda, shiek, puff, G&W, marth, roy, most of the other characters fairs could 'kill' them offstage like mario/doc/dk (lol)/ i guess if ness does his fair twice it could gimp fast fallers at a certain place/ link and young link's fair if hit right could kill off the side/ yoshi's could kill if they dont meteor cancel it....w.e you get my point?
 
trahhSTEEZY

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mm, before i get further into this, what do you consider a 'gimp'? because from how you're explaining this stuff, your making it out like any move that has knockback can be considered a gimp [which can be true] but i assumed we meant moves with the MOST gimp potential. Because I don't see how all those characters you listed which all have quite different fairs fit.
 
mers

mers

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Do people not understand that GOD! meant that Ganon's fair kills at low enough percentages to be considered a gimp? It's similar to calling Falco's doubleshine off the top a gimp.

However, I don't think Ganon's fair really kills soon enough to be called that. Maybe on Yoshi's.
 
trahhSTEEZY

trahhSTEEZY

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hahaha, i've smashed a bunch with professor pro in the uk, him and his friends were always bashing on fuzzy.

upthrow u air u air u air
 
Sinji

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what are some good mind games against peach? I know jump across peach>turn around usmash is one. Are there any more? any advice?
 
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Its funny cause i found out that mind game myself.

What are some defensive tactics against peach? any adivce?
 
trahhSTEEZY

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Sinji said:
Its funny cause i found out that mind game myself.

What are some defensive tactics against peach? any adivce?
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there are infinite mindgames in this game, you can't really list mindgames off, that would be defeating the purpose of a mindgame.

not sure what you mean by defensive tactic..as in shield pressure? or just not being the one to be on the offense?
if the 2nd, then lasers. lasers and more lasers. learn SH double laser.

then some nairs into usmashes ;3
 
MarsFool!

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Approach with dair/uair mixups
run and laser when you cant pressure
dont jab the dsmash
dont shine the dsmash
dont stick any body parts at all in the dsmash
upthrow bair up air @ low percents
 
PB&J

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try to bait peach to d smash or pull out a turnip..after the d smash u should know what to do and while she is pulling out a turnip, it is easier for you to approach since she cant d smash..baiting..

how to bait - you have to figure out on your own or study vids and see how others bait
 
TemPesT-

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Yo, heres Chexr vs Tink at this Wisconsin tourney that just happened... basically i wanna know what he did wrong vs tinks marth, cuz it's a matchup i struggle with as well. its just so hard for me to stay zoned away from marths attacks and find holes in his move set to get a grab.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ps955eJTAQ Game 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QmEo2-k9Do Game 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySps_dTFrMM Game 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffS7AuY2UvA Game 4

but there just kinda fun matches to watch is why i really wanted to post em lol ;)
 
Brookman

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He probably shffls nairs and gets gimped.


I'm not going to watch them, cause I assunme this is what happens. someone who actually watches should verify.
 
GOD!

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No he just plays really old school like one of the commenters on yt said.

And he got punished really hard for every mistake he made.

In neutral position he was getting read consistently in terms of his spacing and movements.
(He never sh naired though)

He played really aggressively, especially after he got the first hit in, and from there he would try to create combos that didn't exist --> then he gets utilted or something similar, death.
 
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