Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
It's all good, RaynEX. I'll look here sometime Sunday night.Big Canada tourny this weekend so I'm practicing up. I'll do this sometime after doubles at the tourny or after the weekend. sorry
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Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-
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LumpyCPU...
Smash Hero
Q F Tit's All Good, Raynex. I'll Look Here Sometime Sunday Night.
Tero.
Smash Champion
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So what ur trying to say is: Fox all dai?
Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
ResidentWaffle
Smash Lord
What's the best way to respond to a samus that is properly spacing tilts up against your shield?
Miggz
Pancake Sandwiches
Hm. You could attempt to do a SHFFL dair to wave shine out of your shield, assuming you don't get pushed too far back. Dairs come out super quick and spot dodging them at that close range won't work too well, even for Samus. Or like the above person suggested, wave dash back and restart your battle plan.
SpaceFalcon
Smash Lord
Probably not shield in the first.. you just wait for samus to flail her arms around then you jump in and molest the robot.
LumpyCPU...
Smash Hero
hey hey. i got an infraction for that... so... yeah... lol
nah, but this is real talk. is uthrow to shine usmash possible?
i was tryin' it on a falcon and i can't do it. lulz
cuz you can do a running shine usmash and if they're falling at an angle, i can do it.
(i.e. dtilt to shine usmash)
but yeah... does uthrow shine usmash not work? or do i just suck at smash?
(or both?)
nah, but this is real talk. is uthrow to shine usmash possible?
i was tryin' it on a falcon and i can't do it. lulz
cuz you can do a running shine usmash and if they're falling at an angle, i can do it.
(i.e. dtilt to shine usmash)
but yeah... does uthrow shine usmash not work? or do i just suck at smash?
(or both?)
Tero.
Smash Champion
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Yeah it's possible
Tero.
Smash Champion
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First: Don't stuck in your shield when she is spacing tilts.
You can run in and overshoot a shield and if that messed her spacing up: usmash her oos
overshoot attacks if she is wd'ing back to something
oh and don't forget to laser camp to usmash all dai
(wow my english is horrible ... again ~.~)
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
As far as I can tell, your english isn't horrible. But maybe I can't tell cuz my english is horrible.
WD back OOS and try to punish what they're gonna do after that (dont wd far, stay close enough to punish whatever she'll do next).
WD back OOS and try to punish what they're gonna do after that (dont wd far, stay close enough to punish whatever she'll do next).
I'd say shield-pivot, then time a full-jump out. Either space a b-air or run away. I'd say run away, because the samus will probably crouch you out and d-tilt you.
It's perfectly possible. Just time everything right. You should be able to u-throw -> shine (this'll cause Falcon to fall at an angle towards you or behind you based on what part of the shine you hit him with. You may need to turn around) -> u-smash no problem.
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
for shine-usmash to work you need to hit them with the middle of the shine, if you hit them with the outer parts they'll be to far away once the usmash comes out
just wanted to point that out lol
just wanted to point that out lol
I disagree. I've landed tons of shine u-smashes without even thinking where the shine was hitting them. I just turn around and u-smash. You might only catch them with the tips of Fox's toes, but whatever.
cykofox
Smash Ace
lol thats the strongest part.
Sizzle
I paint controllers
Is fast falling Fox's wavedash to edgehog important?
I'm speaking in terms of spacing/distance.
I don't do it, and I don't think I've ever felt a need to.
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
what's a "shield pivot"?
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
try uthrow shine-usmash at higher percents on falcon and time it so that it hits with the VERY TIP of the shine
it doesnt work (no di)
Miggz
Pancake Sandwiches
Indeed good sir...indeed.
Lovage
Smash Hero
turn around and use your shield to stop momentum
kind of like a ghetto pivot with different pros/cons
kind of like a ghetto pivot with different pros/cons
Binx
Smash Master
Yeah thats what I thought too, yay for simple explanations.
DanteFox
Smash Champion
Hey anyone wanna give me some tips for vs. Peach? I have a hard time approaching her and I keep getting ***** by the down smash.
Lovage
Smash Hero
at low-mid percents dont approach with nair. you can space bair or drill.
laser a lot and grab
cheaaa
laser a lot and grab
cheaaa
DanteFox
Smash Champion
thanks lovage.
is that cuz it's easier for her to d smash/grab after the nair?
is that cuz it's easier for her to d smash/grab after the nair?
ComboTurtle
Smash Lord
she can cc it away and not get hit by the shine and her dsmash will bring you in for the ****.
Then what's the practicality of even doing it...
Obviously don't approach a Peach from underneath a platform.
Like these other guys have said, dair works amazing because you can either shine, grab, jab, and sometimes u-smash out of it at the higher percents. Peach will definitely try and crouch you out on all your approaches from 0%-60%, so make them count.
U-throw -> u-air works well at the lower percentages if their DI is bad. I wouldn't recommend going for it past 60%. Edgegaurd like a *****. I like staying on the stage facing away from the peach, that way if they umbrella onto the stage they get b-air'd or u-smashed, and if they drop down to the edge from the umbrella all I've got to do is jump backwards and fastfall a bair off the edge.
Like these other guys have said, dair works amazing because you can either shine, grab, jab, and sometimes u-smash out of it at the higher percents. Peach will definitely try and crouch you out on all your approaches from 0%-60%, so make them count.
U-throw -> u-air works well at the lower percentages if their DI is bad. I wouldn't recommend going for it past 60%. Edgegaurd like a *****. I like staying on the stage facing away from the peach, that way if they umbrella onto the stage they get b-air'd or u-smashed, and if they drop down to the edge from the umbrella all I've got to do is jump backwards and fastfall a bair off the edge.
Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
I posted a few videos of my fox in friendlies, but here's a fox ditto money match of me versus my bro Zero.
I played fairly well in these matches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NyIUCoVBTo&feature=channel_page
And for the record, even though I 2-0'd him here, he 2-0'd me yesterday in another mm.
I played fairly well in these matches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NyIUCoVBTo&feature=channel_page
And for the record, even though I 2-0'd him here, he 2-0'd me yesterday in another mm.
D
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Guest
I have this hot combo for fox vs falcon.
observe to nairs.
observe to nairs.
Hey guess what guys.
If you spam the thread, I spam infractions.
Happy posting!
If you spam the thread, I spam infractions.
Happy posting!
Tyson651
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for the samus and peach thing
just laser them and make them approach u.
thats how u win with fox (stereotypically), u camp them out if u cant approach them lol.
same thing goes for against marth, jiggs, falcon (kinda), etc.
exception applies to falco probs, but u do camp him out a little by jumping on the platforms.
just laser them and make them approach u.
thats how u win with fox (stereotypically), u camp them out if u cant approach them lol.
same thing goes for against marth, jiggs, falcon (kinda), etc.
exception applies to falco probs, but u do camp him out a little by jumping on the platforms.
I was about to infract you before I realized that what you said is somewhat legit.
I flick my thumb off the side of the X button to short-hop, and when I have long nails I screw up sometimes, so I always keep them nice and short.
I flick my thumb off the side of the X button to short-hop, and when I have long nails I screw up sometimes, so I always keep them nice and short.
Samus' and Peach's recoveries can both be screwed over by a camping falco.
Also, Tyson, a Samus' approach is going to be rittled with missiles. If you're willing to camp those out, so be it, however I prefer a more in-your-face approach when playing against a samus, to avoid being boned by missiles.
Also, Tyson, a Samus' approach is going to be rittled with missiles. If you're willing to camp those out, so be it, however I prefer a more in-your-face approach when playing against a samus, to avoid being boned by missiles.