Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-

[Ryan-K]

who cares, fox doesn't need anything else he's broken enough as it is -_-;

 

[NJzFinest]

I don't know if you guys already know this, but Dashizwiz has yet another amazing set against Chu Dat using Fox/Falco that was just uploaded:

http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=ySov4teKfk8

 

[Hao]

Anybody got tips on how to perform dash_shine_turnaround_bair?

I hear you need to use the analogue stick a lot more or some **** like that.

 

[LumpyCPU...]

i think it's non existent. lol
or he rediscovered how to dash attack cancel grab.
haha

LMAO @ cliff hanger
too good raynex

 

[DtJ Jungle]

roflpwnt...

 

[RaynEX]

lol.

half of me wanted to reveal this awesome secret. The other half of me wanted to see how much drama/activity I could create over the weekend.


the secret is:

go to 0:39 in the following link. The guys there will tell you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDHSbrPZH4A

Alternatively: pick sheik lulz.

 

[NinjaFoxX]

lol.

half of me wanted to reveal this awesome secret. The other half of me wanted to see how much drama/activity I could create over the weekend.


the secret is:

go to 0:39 in the following link. The guys there will tell you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDHSbrPZH4A

Alternatively: pick sheik lulz.

are you TRYING to break everyones wii, thats almost as powerful as the FLAMEDASH

 

[idea]

"I find [this video] deeply disturbing."

 

[DtJ Jungle]

god ****it. taht suptid vid bernard.


i still get nightmares.

 

[joeplicate]

this is gonna be some tales from the crypt **** so bear with me

:39 in that video says
we're gonna go up
and go down

get back up and
turn around

and you point your fingers and do the twist



so I'm thinking
go up is jump
then go down is FAST FALL

STAY WITH ME HERE THIS GETS CREEPY


go back up means that you can do this technicque over and over
you "point your fingers," means your pointer finger
WHAT BUTTON IS IT ON
IT'S ON THE L BUTTON

then you DO THE TWIST
fox's down air is a twist sure nuff
and when you do his twist and point your fingers it's FASTER THAN USUAL when it hits the ground!!!

could this powerful technique be a
short hopped
fast-fallen
finger pointed
DOWN AIR???!




.....YOU BE THE JUDGE

 

[DtJ Jungle]

k get out.

now.

 

[KirbyKaze]

^ He should quit life amirite?

 

[DtJ Jungle]

quitting life is fun

ive done it several times

 

[NinjaFoxX]

its easy, just press the reset button.

 

[P.c. Chris]

I did my first triple jc shine recently, im excited. even though its useless how does one practice it ? i just wanna look sexy after i kill somebody and spam jc shines.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

i dunno if thats a serious post :/

 

[P.c. Chris]

lol I'm serious >_>. I never practiced more than 2 jc shines well because its not that practical or useful but i'll admit it looks so cool i wanna just learn it for the fashion over function points.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

lolz...well you know how you do 2? just...instead of stopping...just keep slidin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aKs9ucF5Y4&feature=channel_page


this

 

[Vts]

lol I'm serious >_>. I never practiced more than 2 jc shines well because its not that practical or useful but i'll admit it looks so cool i wanna just learn it for the fashion over function points.

well i use to be able to do 3 now i can barely do 2 all i did was jump cancel shine with my jump and try to guess the timing until you learn the real timing.

my friend nite does double shines on people's shield with falco all the time and jc-shine grabs its pretty crazy haven't really seen many people do it.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

falco is different than fox...

 

[Vts]

falco is different than fox...

they are in way of what each shine does

but i do believe both shines can be canceled 4th frame if i remember right

i'm just saying a fox could also double shine and grab just like a falco can.

 

[NES n00b]

they are in way of what each shine does

but i do believe both shines can be canceled 4th frame if i remember right

i'm just saying a fox could also double shine and grab just like a falco can.

They both can be, but falco has 3 more frames of leniency.

 

[LumpyCPU...]

i'm learning to appreciate the pretty things fox can do... (shine bairs and shine nairs)
as opposed to the practical things...

edit: wiggles creeping me out.

 

[MikeHaggarTHAKJB]

PC chris do you still play smash?
on topic: i think everyone practices jc shines lol...
i can't do them really fast like SW and others do tho >.> I have like this pause between every jc shine where i reposition my fingers

edit: a question for this thread:
I've been practicing waveshine->grab on ic's. whenever I do it I'll always grab Nana instead of Popo (since Nana slides a bit behind popo for some reason). Anyone know if it is somehow possible to grab popo instead?
shai hulud you know everything help me out here

 

[soap]

i used to practice jc shines till i realized id never be able to consistently use it. i use shine sh shine jump away in sticky spots

 

[Kirio]

Wait, PC Chris, wouldn't triple JC shines be better for shield pressure than a double JC shine? Hm. I don't really have many people to play around me so I could be missing something obvious, but I'm curious.

 

[P.c. Chris]

In reality if you could jump cancel shines perfectly yes it would be better for shield pressure. I've never seen it used anywhere consistently though that's why it'd be better just to shffl nairs on someones shield or even simply shine and then cancel it with a grab. I think foxes get carried away with trying to be as technical and pretty as possible when all you have to do is either waveshine/drill to grab or waveshine to upsmash. fox is pretty simple at high level play, people just make him seem complicated. I want to learn jc shines simply because i have been playing for 6 years there's a couple things i haven't learned how to do yet so I'd like to add it to my repitoire even though In my opinion it's almost useless, unless it's completely mastered.

 

[Kirio]

Oh alright, I see what you mean. Basically, there's much simpler, less technical things you can do. Hah. Awesome, thanks a lot.

 

[RaynEX]

this is gonna be some tales from the crypt **** so bear with me

:39 in that video says
we're gonna go up
and go down

get back up and
turn around

and you point your fingers and do the twist



so I'm thinking
go up is jump
then go down is FAST FALL

STAY WITH ME HERE THIS GETS CREEPY


go back up means that you can do this technicque over and over
you "point your fingers," means your pointer finger
WHAT BUTTON IS IT ON
IT'S ON THE L BUTTON

then you DO THE TWIST
fox's down air is a twist sure nuff
and when you do his twist and point your fingers it's FASTER THAN USUAL when it hits the ground!!!

could this powerful technique be a
short hopped
fast-fallen
finger pointed
DOWN AIR???!




.....YOU BE THE JUDGE

holy **** you figured it out.

>_>

lol I'm serious >_>. I never practiced more than 2 jc shines well because its not that practical or useful but i'll admit it looks so cool i wanna just learn it for the fashion over function points.

uh oh. Colbol 2.0

PC chris do you still play smash?
on topic: i think everyone practices jc shines lol...
i can't do them really fast like SW and others do tho >.> I have like this pause between every jc shine where i reposition my fingers

edit: a question for this thread:
I've been practicing waveshine->grab on ic's. whenever I do it I'll always grab Nana instead of Popo (since Nana slides a bit behind popo for some reason). Anyone know if it is somehow possible to grab popo instead?
shai hulud you know everything help me out here

Don't even try waveshine->anything vs. ICs unless its a spaced nair or something. If you watch the new Chu vs. Shiz set from the tourny last weekend in Georgia, you'll see that Shiz drillshines -> another shine. Its good to push them off the stage and stuff.

In reality if you could jump cancel shines perfectly yes it would be better for shield pressure. I've never seen it used anywhere consistently though that's why it'd be better just to shffl nairs on someones shield or even simply shine and then cancel it with a grab. I think foxes get carried away with trying to be as technical and pretty as possible when all you have to do is either waveshine/drill to grab or waveshine to upsmash. fox is pretty simple at high level play, people just make him seem complicated. I want to learn jc shines simply because i have been playing for 6 years there's a couple things i haven't learned how to do yet so I'd like to add it to my repitoire even though In my opinion it's almost useless, unless it's completely mastered.

too good.

nair shining is better you're right. Or even just aerial->shine then WDing backwards to avoid grabs and stuff.

also, we should talk more. Your Marth advice helped me alot.

 

[soap]

shine jc grab is hella easy and useful, whats the point of doing 2 shines to grab though? one usually works fine.

JC shine is more useful with falco too correct? cuz his shine has more shieldstun i think. anyway all i do anymore is laser dair shine grab, its like clockwork, just gotta learn the birdy throw game mixups

 

[joeplicate]

I was hanging out with mango after a tournament this weekend

he said that pc > m2k =D




<3333333 pc chris

 

[I.B]

he also said me = larry


<3?? Mango??

 

[DEHF]

there can only be one Larry which me

 

[RaynEX]

Man this thread is dead.


HEY GUYS.

I have this secret...its going to change the way we play Fox forever...

again.

 

[Tero.]

Man this thread is dead.


HEY GUYS.

I have this secret...its going to change the way we play Fox forever...

again.

You can jump out of the shine ?
Are you serious?
This is awesome!

 

[Falcinho]

We've already had this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLOOM7Hc57c

Be pro and do it like the g at 0:45 in this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vofXcC0rj4

 

[MaNg0]

i dunno i think

pc is better

then m2k


*dsf pose*

 

[LumpyCPU...]

Man this thread is dead.


HEY GUYS.

I have this secret...its going to change the way we play Fox forever...

again.

is that you can use the reflector as an attack?
that'd be just swell.

 

[RaynEX]

alright so the secret to being good with Fox.

First: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAtnkaHZ5UY

Second: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGE34VAqYTk

Third: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mHw5g55oC4

Alright thats it. No more spam I promise from now on. lol

 

[LumpyCPU...]

wow... just... wow...