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FMOI's Electric Schuffle! Zeonstar is the champ!

Hero Fly Chao

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Okay, after some experimentation, I discovered that Yoshi's Island (Melee) is a pretty sweet stage for PT:

-One ledge with not much airspace makes it pretty hard to gimp Ivysaur via edgehog.

-Spinny blocks are nice for Squirtsquirt to hold onto and jump around, and can be teched off of in some cases.

-Ivysaur's ranged moves like bair and fair blast through the spinny blocks.

-Charizard can use the right slope for approaching flamethrowers and defensive maneuvers.

-Ivy/Zard can situationally spike people through the middle hole.

Maybe I'm exaggerating it, but it seems pretty decent at least.
 

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IMO, the problem with allowing a free transformation is that its possible to abuse it, unless you're allowed to attack them on them changing back, it seems like it would be more fair to punish them for changing, even if its accidentally, seeing as it IS against the rules, after all
Hmm... then I'll give them a one time warning. It's not that hard to go a whole match as Shiek/Zelda. If it's obvious that they are trying to abuse the rule, then they will still lose the match.
 

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If it is on a weekend and done over one day, the timing is inconvenient for everyone that isn't 14 =P

I might have to drop out last minute if it is a one day thing as well. Just depends if I'm on campus for the time given.
 

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If it is on a weekend and done over one day, the timing is inconvenient for everyone that isn't 14 =P

I might have to drop out last minute if it is a one day thing as well. Just depends if I'm on campus for the time given.
It's two days... and I'm 20 and a junior in college, by the way. I make the rounds 3 hours long and give people 6 days to finish their first match in order to make it even more conveinent. I'm definately not going to host this thing on like a Wendesday or anything... Also, the reason I make these two days long is because tournaments that last longer than that are usually horribly unorganized. Heck, I'm STILL waiting to play in the finals of an online tournament that I joined a month and a half ago and it only had 16 people to boot...
 

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All that this timing really means is staying in the same house for a night >_>
During geno bash i was at a friends house, we were playing castle crashers and rock band, then switched over to brawl for 15 minutes once every few hours so i could play/record my tourney matches
They were just as entertained by that and even got to be obnoxious jerks about it
 

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Havent been here in a while, But for everlasting peace, Im gon participate in this tourney, megaman is my fav. character, and I cant let this pass by...

Im in...

Umm well Im gon Use ganon/Dedede
 

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If anyone has general tips for Kirbay and Peach, let me know.
Okay, for Kirby:

Attacks to use a lot:

Bair (fantastic range and gimping capabilites), fair (great approach and very safe if done while retreating), final cutter (up B, it's Kirby's only project and it's fairly safe to use in most situations), hammer for recovering (sometimes even eliminates the need to jump plus you can do Kirby's infinite jump if you press the jump and attack button right as you finish your second swing), utilt (great for juggling and can easily lead into nair/uair), jab (fairly safe because of its deceptive range), fthrow (can lead into a lot of things up until high percentages), dair (just try not it too close to the ground, can easily lead into a ftilt/utilt/usmash/fsmash up until high percentages if you full hop it right), dthrow (it's just a good attack), usmash (a good strong attack that will help you build up damage instead of just using fsmash all the time)

Situational attacks so don't use very often:

Hammer on the ground (despite the attack having more knockback then his fsmash, it takes a decent amount of planning to set it up right. Use it like you'd use Lucas's Usmash or DK's Donkey Punch (...:chuckle:)), inhale (not too useful against most of the cast since it's pretty easy to counter and only a few characters are genuinely worth inhaling like Lucario, Samus, Bowser, Falco, and Snake. Try using it as a suicide tactic instead if you're up against someone who's gimp happy), stone (down B, easy to predict and can really back fire if your opponent, shields or simply moves out the way. If you must use it, transform out of it as soon as possible or use it to get back to the stage faster), fsmash (save for kills)

Good set ups:

fthrow into uair/utilt/fair/final cutter/usmash (it really depends on the percentage so feel free to experiment), multiple utilt on heavy/fast falling characters, dtilt into fsmash, full hopped dair into fsmash/utilt/jab/dsmash, short hopped fair into fsmash, uair into chasing bairs, dtilt trip into ftilt/fsmash, uthrow into chasing uair, bthrow into chasing bairs

Kirby's strengths:

Deceptively powerful attacks, great recovery, great off stage and gimping game, hard to hit for some characters and can duck under most projectiles

Kirby's weaknesses:

light, sort of crappy range, has a hard time against people with disjointed hitboxes for many of their attacks

I'll write advice for Peach in a minute, I need to go check on my dinner.
 

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If anyone has general tips for Kirbay and Peach, let me know.
too add a little to what FMOI said

Learn his grab combos they can give you 40% quick at the beggining of a stock
(for example: F-Throw-> U-air-> F-Throw-> Hammer)

punish rolls and spotdoges with a downsmash or predict right and F-smash(this works well aginst spot dodgers cause its hit box stays out longer if you do it right)
 

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I doubt it, but any chance i can use pit and ganon, instead of dedede and ganon, i mean, pit is a lower tier than DDD... cmooooonnnn =D
 

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I doubt it, but any chance i can use pit and ganon, instead of dedede and ganon, i mean, pit is a lower tier than DDD... cmooooonnnn =D
Nope. If I were you, I'd be happy because, in my opinion, DDD is basically a floaty Ganondorf (both have great range and power) with super enhanced gimping capabilities, a chain grab, and a projectile. Adusting to his playstyle shouldn't be too hard if you main Ganondorf. Adjusting to Sonic's playstyle if you chose Falco or the Ice Climbers' if you chose Ike however...
 

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Oh man, the yoshi mains are out in force, whats up with that?
Also, stryks, c'mon, following that logic, us yoshi mains could pick WHOEVER WE WANT and just switch the lower one to yoshi >_>
And zeon practically gets his pick of the cast aside from MK
 

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Ganondorf and King Dedede, the 2 most annoying heavy characters in the game ~_~
 

Barge

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It's because my router sucks (I hope to replace it soon) and I'm so busy with school that I can usually only play on the weekends now.
The Blue font on the main post really accents your name :O

And thats a bummer, I can't remember if I have the ability to own you.
 

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Didn't you contact me to help you with someone? Did you ever use Bowser or am I thinking of someone else?
Well, You challenged me in the FF.
I dont use bowser, if I use bowser its to bowsercide and nothing more. I main Olimar O:
 

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Lol billcosbyman.

I love Fm's sig, Thats the first thing I notice when he posts

And (to me at least)
His avatar looks like rock lee if you dont pay real attention to it
 

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Not too late to sign-up, right? If it isn't, I'll go with Samus/Marth.
Nope, the deadline isn't for another week. I'll sign you up.

@ Barge:

My avatar is the main characters of "My Neighbor Totoro" drawn using Matt Groening's style (the creator of the Simpsons, Life is Hell, and Futurama). I think it's a good way of combining my love of animation from both sides of the globe.
 

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Congrats Fat.

Can I please trade my ROB for King Yoshi's Lucas? Pretty please please? ;_ ;
 

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Congrats Fat.

Can I please trade my ROB for King Yoshi's Lucas? Pretty please please? ;_ ;
*slaps with a fish*

No trades. It's supposed to be an uphill battle for a vast majority of people. Heck, people like me and Blue Terrorist who main the whole cast will probably run into problems. My problem right now is that I'm really, really tired... *sets homework on fire*
 
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