SpruceTengu
Smash Journeyman
Can't people tech it? Or is that just on the ledge. I know Raiou continuously used to ledgetech my cape as Fox/Falco. Makes you start F-tilting the side-B alot more...
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Q&A Doc General Discussion: Ask and ye shall receive ft. otg and Shroomed!
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SpruceTengu
Smash Journeyman
Woah. I just caught this. What post is this?
HiIH
Smash Lord
...Dthrow>Jab>Regrab on Falcon? Was kinda messin around today, and all Falcon has to do is DI behind you (or alternatively, he can Smash DI the jab down, and tech it).
Pros:Alot easier than the chaingrab on him, and can work at ridiculously low percentages.
Cons:Not to hard to get out of if the Falcon thinks.
Does this have any merit, and is it useable on any other characters?
All I know about the hitstun is it always does it to spacies in illusions, and if they don't tech, they're probably gonna fall to their death in hitstun... not hard to get around though.
Pros:Alot easier than the chaingrab on him, and can work at ridiculously low percentages.
Cons:Not to hard to get out of if the Falcon thinks.
Does this have any merit, and is it useable on any other characters?
All I know about the hitstun is it always does it to spacies in illusions, and if they don't tech, they're probably gonna fall to their death in hitstun... not hard to get around though.
HiIH, join omis's mafia game
DRD
Smash Lord
Your text wall in the doc in teams thread
HiIH
Smash Lord
Desh
Smash Ace
the one about teams you want me to add to the archive thing. im either blind or really dumb.
i cant find it =[
SpruceTengu
Smash Journeyman
Oh, it's in the "Doc in teams" thread on the first place. I'll edit and place a link.
Edit: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=6394010&postcount=2
Desh
Smash Ace
lol!
oh wow , i was looking in another thread =p haha.
alright i'll put it in now real quickly.
Thanks!
oh wow , i was looking in another thread =p haha.
alright i'll put it in now real quickly.
Thanks!
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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Mmmhmmm...
I can't PTP to save my life. [well in game life]
im gonna have to be a PTPless doc, my thumb doesnt move that fast
im gonna have to be a PTPless doc, my thumb doesnt move that fast
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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Or you could play someone with a good recovery =P
Desh
Smash Ace
You cant tech the cape.
i dont even think from an illusion. =/
SpruceTengu
Smash Journeyman
Hm. 0_o' So I was just continuously getting that weird cape-effect? I mean, like everyone else was saying, from time to time it would hit them instead of just turning them around, but with no real force to knock them away... I basically stopped caping illusions after that. @@
Omni_Smash
Smash Apprentice
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I always thought it was a better idea to Bair illusions anyways, I mean Illusion obviously can't go through it and a Bair sets you up to gimp him at the ledge or force them to use up-B which is caped easy as cake.
SpruceTengu
Smash Journeyman
Iiiiiiiiiiiii needto try that. I think it's just the timing that's difficult, for me. I always choke against illusion. xD
b.airs good.
I always just f.tilt/u.tilted, but b.airs works perfectly fine; infact, it's probably the best option you have.
.... other than f.smash, but you cant always hit f.smash. XD
I always just f.tilt/u.tilted, but b.airs works perfectly fine; infact, it's probably the best option you have.
.... other than f.smash, but you cant always hit f.smash. XD
Desh
Smash Ace
huh, learn something everyday,
O_o
i guess when that happens to me they arent close enough to the edge/on the stage .
cool ^_^.
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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If you get caped in the initiation of the Illusion, you'll go the other way, but if you're already moving, you just fall over.
Desh
Smash Ace
yeah knew that, wasnt aware that you could tech once ur in the tumbling animation
slight update on the archive, just kinda moved things under different sub heading and im about to add dates to the info posted,
OMG GUYS
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
THE THREAT LEVEL IS DEF CON 5.
THE GREATEST DOC PLAYER IN THE NATION IS DEAD
(((
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=6502001&posted=1#post6502001
go pay your respects to The American Dream.
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
THE THREAT LEVEL IS DEF CON 5.
THE GREATEST DOC PLAYER IN THE NATION IS DEAD
(((http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=6502001&posted=1#post6502001
go pay your respects to The American Dream.
=[
so it looks like we have to appoint a new best.
so it looks like we have to appoint a new best.
Na. I picked the last 4 and they sucked.
How bout you take a stab at it macman, maybe yours wont die in office.
*pours out some soda for The American Dream*
How bout you take a stab at it macman, maybe yours wont die in office.
*pours out some soda for The American Dream*
JonaDiaper
Smash Champion
(pick me plz)
lols
lols
what? No.
It's macman's choice.
None of this sudden displacement of power nonsense.
It's macman's choice.
None of this sudden displacement of power nonsense.
lol wut.
sure jona you can have it, as long as you give otg your amazing doc tips. And you have to act like his coach whenever hes playing, like yelling in his ear if he messes up, and sometimes when he doesn't. Have fun with that.
you also have to pay for dogy to go to canada
sure jona you can have it, as long as you give otg your amazing doc tips. And you have to act like his coach whenever hes playing, like yelling in his ear if he messes up, and sometimes when he doesn't. Have fun with that.
you also have to pay for dogy to go to canada
The Alpha Gundam
Smash Champion
overruled Dogy
Try to pick peeps who wont die in office next time XD
lolwut.
Man i want my money back.
Man i want my money back.
**** YOU HE GOT ASSASSINATED BY CHOLESTEROL.
Roman.
Smash Champion
i don't know what to say about these boards
Desh
Smash Ace
jona for prezzzz
SpruceTengu
Smash Journeyman
Uhh i thought you were saying Bobby died or something.. O_O
JonaDiaper
Smash Champion
ok glad thats settled...
now i will infest your brains with funny youtube poop videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIHmGDu8szo
now i will infest your brains with funny youtube poop videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIHmGDu8szo
Desh
Smash Ace
well, thats annoying
im off to make an assassination thread 8D
jk lol,
kk,
so guys,
i know we all know this guys,
but really guys,
marths ****ing gay.
i completely 100% think marth is docs hardest match up.
then its falcon.
then sheik.
then it doesnt really matter.
foiwefoyahbnihgadsjfdkjh -.-
im off to make an assassination thread 8D
jk lol,
kk,
so guys,
i know we all know this guys,
but really guys,
marths ****ing gay.
i completely 100% think marth is docs hardest match up.
then its falcon.
then sheik.
then it doesnt really matter.
foiwefoyahbnihgadsjfdkjh -.-
JonaDiaper
Smash Champion
i think fox is a pretty bad match up for doc.
i went fox on otg today and i did alright, actually should have beat him like once. i was up 3 stocks to 1,
but hes just so gay and i ended up holding on the ledge and just falling and shooting lasers to my death.
after that one i got *****. so idk
otg is realllllly gay tho
i went fox on otg today and i did alright, actually should have beat him like once. i was up 3 stocks to 1,
but hes just so gay and i ended up holding on the ledge and just falling and shooting lasers to my death.
after that one i got *****. so idk
otg is realllllly gay tho
JonaDiaper
Smash Champion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9q7gK1oob4&feature=channel_page
funniest thing you will see this and next month.
funniest thing you will see this and next month.
Desh
Smash Ace
fox is easy for doc. =/
idk why people find it hard.
you can cc dsmash/grab a waveshine, i've done it to raynex.
you can cc grab his best approach options
hes super easy to edge gaurd,
hes combo-able
he can get 0-death'd if you tech chase and be gay,
really if you grab him its not hard to take a stock.
what does he have against you besides speed =/
he cant really camp you, he needs to approach just as much as you do.
he cant uthrow uair,
being edge gaurded vs fox really ISNT that bad.
shine spikes are avoidable. very very avoidable.>_>
not to mention tech-able.
all of his other methods of edgegaurding arent that much better than the rest of the cast imho.
so really, his grabs arent that great against doc, he cant really approach you with out taking risk of getting grabbed, wich can lose him a stock.
idk, thats just me, i've never found fox to be a hard match up, i play raynex a lot, and of course i lose, but its more because hes straight up better than me than because fox ***** doc.
idk why people find it hard.
you can cc dsmash/grab a waveshine, i've done it to raynex.
you can cc grab his best approach options
hes super easy to edge gaurd,
hes combo-able
he can get 0-death'd if you tech chase and be gay,
really if you grab him its not hard to take a stock.
what does he have against you besides speed =/
he cant really camp you, he needs to approach just as much as you do.
he cant uthrow uair,
being edge gaurded vs fox really ISNT that bad.
shine spikes are avoidable. very very avoidable.>_>
not to mention tech-able.
all of his other methods of edgegaurding arent that much better than the rest of the cast imho.
so really, his grabs arent that great against doc, he cant really approach you with out taking risk of getting grabbed, wich can lose him a stock.
idk, thats just me, i've never found fox to be a hard match up, i play raynex a lot, and of course i lose, but its more because hes straight up better than me than because fox ***** doc.