Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
No it's not man trust me...if you literally think of what you're doign the whole time, you won't havfe habits. You also have to notice of what you do and see if that's a breakable habit.
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DK Advancement of Metagame thread |Updated Random ideas 10/28/10!!!
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Tujex
Smash Ace
It all depends on what your habit it is, and if you can catch it before your opponents have a chance to punish you.
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
Exactly.
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You guys know how when we are charging our punch and we can simply tilt the control stick to do a dodge roll instead of pressing the shield button also right?
Apply that to glide tossing...while you're holding and item and swinging your arm around, just tilt the control stick and C-stick and there you go
. MINDGAMES!
blakinola
Constantly Delicious
thrillagorilla
Smash Ace
Holy... I need to re-visit that move. I don't know if its disjointed per say (I think DK's arms swing by there) but at the very least, the move has more range than I originally thought. I'll look into it. I love "big applause!" even more now.
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
Not a surprise, I've done that before too...Holy... I need to re-visit that move. I don't know if its disjointed per say (I think DK's arms swing by there) but at the very least, the move has more range than I originally thought. I'll look into it. I love "big applause!" even more now.
you got Pikachu at the tip of the hitbox. It wasn't disjointed, good job though.
daisho
Smash Lord
You don't have a digital camera or anything? Thats what I use and the quality isn't great, but its not terrible or anything.
thrillagorilla
Smash Ace
Thanks, t0mmy! It didn't feel right asking you outright...
Monkley6
Smash Journeyman
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Yeah I've got a digital camera, but filming drains the batteries like NUTS. Probably because it's old, maybe I'll try it out some time though... Not sure why I didn't think of that? Thank you though
Ruuku
Smash Lord
I think it is possible to do first jab into down smash when the jab pulls the opponent. Also, I think that short hop cargo grab release into utilt may work. I don't have my Wii today so I can't test those. These probably are old since I've only been playing DK for a little while.
Short hop cargo grab release?
Really?
When your in the air and the other char. is air released do they receive more lag?
Nah it doesn't work like that. They could air dodge and also jump away before your Utilt hits. If they are at just the right height they will land into your Utilt during their air dodge though.
It would work on Ness and Lucas but you don't need to short hop for that anyway.
Ruuku
Smash Lord
If I remember well, it looked like he tried to jump but got hit before he was far enough. My opponent probably just wasn't waiting for me to do that then. I was trying random things today.
Yeah they might have been too close to jump away in time too.
Drizzt6195
Smash Apprentice
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And jab cancel Dsmash doesnt work btw I already tried it (as well as jab >turn around > jump > Bair)
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
Or just do a down smash lol.
daisho
Smash Lord
Jab has less lag if you miss.
Drizzt6195
Smash Apprentice
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At 0%, the jab is really only good jab lock. Other than that, its meh.
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
For jab locking in general, you just press the jab once then it should stun him, then you can do another attack?At 0%, the jab is really only good jab lock. Other than that, its meh.
Ruuku
Smash Lord
I've been getting a lot of kills by doing dtilt/ftilt then jab->down smash. People usually try to punish if they block the tilt but depending on what they use to punish, the jab interrupts.
@ Beef - During a jab lock you can either follow up with another jab until about 30 percent, or you can side b, or you can smash, or pauwnch. Which ever floats your boat.
@ Ruuku - Ill have to start doing that.
@ Ruuku - Ill have to start doing that.
You can actually start a jab lock until like 90% with fresh jabs. Stale jabs can start the lock even later. The trick is not to hit with the tip of your jab. Tipper jabs can't start jab locks and break the lock at all %'s. If you want details you should check what is in the first post.
What do you mean by stop? Do you mean ending the lock or not locking on the first jab? I thought for a long time DK couldn't jab lock but it just ended up being me not doing it fast enough and doing tipper jabs randomly which messes it up. Some characters are harder to jab lock because for some reason they get hit with the tipper jab at random distances. Sometimes it is better to just go for the Dtilt since you don't have to worry about tippers ruining the lock.
Hmmm ill have to retest with the down tilt then.
What i mean though, was at around 30% the jab will make them stand up. I know im not hitting with the tip either because i move forward so im basically touching them when i jab each time.
What i mean though, was at around 30% the jab will make them stand up. I know im not hitting with the tip either because i move forward so im basically touching them when i jab each time.
Okay kiddies I got something pretty hot off the presses that Well I have to say I've thought up.
You all know how GSFC works, at least the basics, okay well I believe I've got a full character roster infinite. How you might ask? Well how about GSFC heabutt lock. Since they can't do anything after getting hit then why not keep GSFcing them right when they pop out of the headbutt?
I've been practicing it for a few days and get ready to see some insane **** if I can get this down.
You all know how GSFC works, at least the basics, okay well I believe I've got a full character roster infinite. How you might ask? Well how about GSFC heabutt lock. Since they can't do anything after getting hit then why not keep GSFcing them right when they pop out of the headbutt?
I've been practicing it for a few days and get ready to see some insane **** if I can get this down.
Stannum
Smash Journeyman
^ that would be very, very hard, since the person in the pitfall can button mash to come out of it faster. so you would have to have incredible reaction speed. but I'm am still intrigued by what your conclusions are on it.
anyways, i was wondering if anyone ever uses reverse-jump-cancelled-up-B's? hitting with the back of the up-B usually does a solid 10%, and if they shield it you can DI very far away since you are facing the other direction. and if they roll on the other side of you they get wrecked. the worst that could happen is they predict it and hit you out of the up-B with a projectile.
also, if they chase the RJC Up-B you can get a surprising momentum boost by immediately using an up-B in the opposite direction. this has proved pretty useful in my experience, does anyone have any further input on disadvantages/advantages of this?
additionally, can anyone verify that there is any use to using Up-B then cancelling it on the ledge immediately (at the same speed as ledge hugging). i havent tested it really, i just thought it *could* be useful.
anyways, i was wondering if anyone ever uses reverse-jump-cancelled-up-B's? hitting with the back of the up-B usually does a solid 10%, and if they shield it you can DI very far away since you are facing the other direction. and if they roll on the other side of you they get wrecked. the worst that could happen is they predict it and hit you out of the up-B with a projectile.
also, if they chase the RJC Up-B you can get a surprising momentum boost by immediately using an up-B in the opposite direction. this has proved pretty useful in my experience, does anyone have any further input on disadvantages/advantages of this?
additionally, can anyone verify that there is any use to using Up-B then cancelling it on the ledge immediately (at the same speed as ledge hugging). i havent tested it really, i just thought it *could* be useful.
You can't footstool someone when they break out of pitfall stun. By the time you can they can hit you or do whatever and since they are mashing buttons chances are they won't get footstool out of whatever move they mashed. You will just jump really high.
Ledge hugging the normal way is a tiny bit faster than using up b to ledge hug.
Ledge hugging the normal way is a tiny bit faster than using up b to ledge hug.
Well some characters get hit with the tipper jab really close while they are lying down so that's probably why you messed up. I think for some you just can't be too close. The jab doesn't make them stand up until like 90% unless it is a tipper jab.
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
What makes the mansion broken for Donkey Kong in the first place? Besides ground pound...
daisho
Smash Lord
Up B after hitting two walls trick... lingering hitboxes... no spam because of pillars... Jab Lock... Live forever... DK likes the mansion.