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DK Advancement of Metagame thread |Updated Random ideas 10/28/10!!!
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¿Qué?
Smash Champion
I knida thought Jigglypuff was the Jiggs of brawl, but I guess I'm wrong.
Really nice pic btw.
KoSa! FTW.
LOL Jiggs doesn't even exist in Brawl.
Grabbing Wario is tougher than it seems too I think, shieldgrabs aren't going to happen against a good Wario. And you won't catch a Wario playing the ground game with you, he floats in Fair/Dair and retreat or bite/grab on shield.
Also Peach Guard <333
Grabbing Wario is tougher than it seems too I think, shieldgrabs aren't going to happen against a good Wario. And you won't catch a Wario playing the ground game with you, he floats in Fair/Dair and retreat or bite/grab on shield.
Also Peach Guard <333
Cable
Smash Lord
Just keep doing pivot grab on Wario dont chase him for the Grab because if you miss hes going to grab you. Keep count of the timer for you can avoid the powerful fart and when Wario is in the air dont rush yourself with the bairs be patience and throw some uptilts.
Doesn't this just cause a repetition of missed pivot grabs, and missed spaced fairs? In which case he has the advantage, because he has more options, and stage control since DK keeps going back. I think I should add I don't play any pro Warios, or in a competitive atmosphere.
Silfa
Smash Ace
Well, I assume Cable doesn't mean to spam it constantly. If you do the same thing over and over, it generally doesn't work. Pivot grabbing is very effective against wario though, more so than chasing for the grab in my experience.
The chaingrab really does make the matchup difficult. I haven't really had a lot of experience against wario with the cg, but when I have I'veplayed the mu like I used (getting grabbed in the process ;~; ) and generally get outplayed anyway.
The chaingrab really does make the matchup difficult. I haven't really had a lot of experience against wario with the cg, but when I have I'veplayed the mu like I used (getting grabbed in the process ;~; ) and generally get outplayed anyway.
Cable
Smash Lord
Just like Slifa said i ddnt mean to spam it lol
Your eventually going to grab Wario in the match thats the best way to kill him. Its difficult tho that MU its all about being careful and spacing from eachother both characters have deadly grabs on eachother especially Warios -___- just space all the time with DK dont go in and if you feel Wario is getting close try to pivot grab and hopefully you grab him.
Your eventually going to grab Wario in the match thats the best way to kill him. Its difficult tho that MU its all about being careful and spacing from eachother both characters have deadly grabs on eachother especially Warios -___- just space all the time with DK dont go in and if you feel Wario is getting close try to pivot grab and hopefully you grab him.
I was talking about that situation in which you pivot and he floats back =/
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thats why you use approaching pivot grabs also.
Making sure I read that right. Is that like after a bair you grab or something? Or is it simply walking forward then pvg, OR is run forward and pvg backwards.
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pivot grabbing wario isn't too difficult because although wario advances in aerial momentum he doesn't have range, and the grabbox of pivot grab + grab armor just makes an acceptable tool (along with just retreating b.airs, upairs, rolling, etc)
Grizzer
Smash Journeyman
grabbing wario is hard, but the opportunities WILL present itself, also, if you notice the wario isnt all too consistent with his chaingrab, you can turn around grab him back if he screws up ^^ so you can return the favor
AlexoftheAura
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DK is curently being discussed in the Lucario Metagame IRC. Anybody who feels they can contribute should stop by.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=283638
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=283638
bigman40
Smash Master
Just wanted to drop by and say that Pimple as DK is ******.
****ing awesomeJust wanted to drop by and say that Pimple as DK is ******.
CR4SH
Smash Lord
Where do I go to learn DK tricks and shenanigans?
Like, I have basic DK spacing and fundamentals down, but I don't know all the silly stuff. Every time I ask soldier2 he just tells me "bair, bair this" and "bair, bair that". Ook does silly stuff but he's the strong silent type. Ripple too, but I hardly ever see the guy.
(guys, I'm working on my perfect punch @ snake landing and my "**** YOU IM DK, EAT MY UPB" games. They're hard ):
DK boards help me out.
Like, basically a list of. This is the goofy **** that might not come to mind, but you should work on; "list". Would make my week. Or a link or point to a thread like it.
An easy example is dthrow to ftilt. Had to be told that, didn't think of it on my own. Stuff like that since my DK is all self taught.
I see you in here rip, and I'm gonna want to pick your brain at SiiS.
Like, I have basic DK spacing and fundamentals down, but I don't know all the silly stuff. Every time I ask soldier2 he just tells me "bair, bair this" and "bair, bair that". Ook does silly stuff but he's the strong silent type. Ripple too, but I hardly ever see the guy.
(guys, I'm working on my perfect punch @ snake landing and my "**** YOU IM DK, EAT MY UPB" games. They're hard ):
DK boards help me out.
Like, basically a list of. This is the goofy **** that might not come to mind, but you should work on; "list". Would make my week. Or a link or point to a thread like it.
An easy example is dthrow to ftilt. Had to be told that, didn't think of it on my own. Stuff like that since my DK is all self taught.
I see you in here rip, and I'm gonna want to pick your brain at SiiS.
crifer
Smash Lord
read through this thread, I would say one of the best threads here.
What I did @ last Tournament:
If the enemy is tall enough and @ kill % you can do the "fox syndrome".
Run to, let´s say Snake, and do a running usmash, looks great, feels great and the opponent thinks wtf.
Works against Snake, Samus, ROB, Lucario, maybe ZSS, Ganon, CHarizard and maybe others.
daisho
Smash Lord
Luckily for you I'm pretty sure this is the perfect thread for you. Just read the first post.
ook
Smash Lord
Nair to up-b, on battlefield
Punch (shielded) to dsmash
Cargo, turn around, release, charge dsmash/down-b
and down-b a lot
super kong (up-b glitch) off the edge, then float back on (or grab the ledge for edgehogging)
Punch (shielded) to dsmash
Cargo, turn around, release, charge dsmash/down-b
and down-b a lot
super kong (up-b glitch) off the edge, then float back on (or grab the ledge for edgehogging)
CR4SH
Smash Lord
Cable
Smash Lord
OMG its Crash! You remember me from the pound 4 pools!? you had the luigi hat on lol
Another trick is do a short foot stool and do the side B
Another trick is do a short foot stool and do the side B
Silfa
Smash Ace
Bair to side b is always fun.
Using punch as bait as it doesn't have much lag, similar to the shielded punch to dsmash ook suggested.
Charging up the punch once or twice in the air so you're no longer facing them and opens up opportunities with bair.
Using punch as bait as it doesn't have much lag, similar to the shielded punch to dsmash ook suggested.
Charging up the punch once or twice in the air so you're no longer facing them and opens up opportunities with bair.
Cable
Smash Lord
Yo guys if i made a DK combo video would that be stupid? I kinda always wanted to do one just for the fun of it. let me kno your thoughts
CR4SH
Smash Lord
You should just make a video of you playing DK for a few minutes. Its a combo video already. Rename yourself flashykong.
Of course I remember you!
Of course I remember you!
Silfa
Smash Ace
Yeah definitely cable. I'd love to see it.
PolarBear
Smash Journeyman
Learn to time a reverse Congo Punch. Those are useful and awesome to pull off. You can learn to time it off a pivot, jump, falling off a ledge, etc.
Landless recovery to the stage and then down-smash.
Sometimes you can chainthrow a down throw if you chase them right, or follow it with down/up b.
Just learning when to use certain moves against certain characters.
Mess around with him yourself. Most stuff I learned on my own by messing around. Then I saw some videos and noticed they were legit techniques. I also learned how other DKs play and approach and incorporated some of what I liked into my style.
Landless recovery to the stage and then down-smash.
Sometimes you can chainthrow a down throw if you chase them right, or follow it with down/up b.
Just learning when to use certain moves against certain characters.
Mess around with him yourself. Most stuff I learned on my own by messing around. Then I saw some videos and noticed they were legit techniques. I also learned how other DKs play and approach and incorporated some of what I liked into my style.
itsthebigfoot
Smash Lord
dude, we need to play LoL sometime, malphite's a beast
ook
Smash Lord
Add me on LoL, bigfoot (and anyone else who plays). Gragas is more of a beast.
name: ookokorrafaa
name: ookokorrafaa
Chaosgriffin
Smash Ace
Lol ook, talking all about that gragas.
I am up on LOL too, name is Chaosgriffin.
I beast with Cho, Olaf, used to play heim, R.I.P. heimer.
I am up on LOL too, name is Chaosgriffin.
I beast with Cho, Olaf, used to play heim, R.I.P. heimer.
¿Qué?
Smash Champion
chaos. <3!
Chaosgriffin
Smash Ace
Sup, PG. Hope you had fun at the tournament. Glad I got to meet you
¿Qué?
Smash Champion
Yeah, same hurr. I'ma try to apply all of the new things you taught me to my DK game. I need more than just good reaction/ reads.
The Black Prince
Smash Cadet
List of AT's helped, thanks.
Grizzer
Smash Journeyman
"Gimping Ice Climbers
Okay, this one isn't really that useful but its cool. Just grab one, put it on your back and walk off and d toss. Then hit the other with an attack and the first will die. Not so useful because if they grab you out of cargo (is that possible), you fail and lose your stock."
just wanted to point out that yes, you can get grabbed out of a cargo hold, since you have heavy armor like snake's cypher
Okay, this one isn't really that useful but its cool. Just grab one, put it on your back and walk off and d toss. Then hit the other with an attack and the first will die. Not so useful because if they grab you out of cargo (is that possible), you fail and lose your stock."
just wanted to point out that yes, you can get grabbed out of a cargo hold, since you have heavy armor like snake's cypher
daisho
Smash Lord
Hey dudes, I really want to completely revamp this thread because it's super old.
Before I go around changing specific things I want to have an actual plan.
I would really appreciate any advice as far as organization goes.
Thanks alot.
Before I go around changing specific things I want to have an actual plan.
I would really appreciate any advice as far as organization goes.
Thanks alot.
Chaosgriffin
Smash Ace
If you want i could make a video of all the AT's we got and put them up here. I already have a vid for the up-b break, and b-reverse headbutt for DI purposes. I could do up b tricks on different stages, and down b and dsmash on platforms to hit tall opponents. Jab locks, jab lock/punch/whatever after knocking someone off of platform.
Yeah?