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Characters With REAL Potential to Move Up

Zenthewanderer

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Its nearly impossible to predict the twists and turns of the tier list. We never know who will suddenly attract new players or will have an amazing AT discovered. However, there are probably six characters I believe will be moving up- though I can't say how much. Maybe a couple spots, perhaps up to the next set. I won't bother going into deep explanantions- I'm not all that motivated too. Consider this my basic outlook.

Mario
PT
Sonic (Yes, I main him, but I see his potential regardless.)
Olimar
Lucas
Luigi

I'd love to put Link on that list, but I know deep down its unlikely he'll move up too far. I'd like to believe he'll go up one or two spots someday. Luckily, Toon Link should be rising before long.
 

KillerSOS

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Olimar is moving up. That is a fact.

Diddy will not move up. You say that his nanners will move him up but the can be used on him as well. The more I play diddy the easier it is to throw them almost as well as Diddy.

A advantage that can be used on you is hardly a advantage.
 

NinjaLink

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Diddy stays where he is in the tier list. Stop sayin diddy counters MK on FD or at all. Its annoying and ignorant. Shows u dont really kno the character. FD ISNT good because diddy has a hard time killing MK. I never see FD in tourney regardless if i use diddy or not.

Sonic is mid tier whether u want to believe it or not.
DK should be higher.
Luigi higher.
Olimar higher.
GW slightly higher.
D3 slightly lower.
ROB slightly lower.

I'm done for now.
 

da K.I.D.

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Diddy stays where he is in the tier list. Stop sayin diddy counters MK on FD or at all. Its annoying and ignorant. Shows u dont really kno the character. FD ISNT good because diddy has a hard time killing MK. I never see FD in tourney regardless if i use diddy or not.

Sonic is mid tier whether u want to believe it or not.DK should be higher.
Luigi higher.
Olimar higher.
GW slightly higher.
D3 slightly lower.
ROB slightly lower.

I'm done for now.
OH SNAP SON

YOU CANT DENY US ANYMORE!

lol finally someone reputable thats not a sonic main admits to this.

im sigging it by the way.
 

¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯

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Diddy stays where he is in the tier list. Stop sayin diddy counters MK on FD or at all. Its annoying and ignorant. Shows u dont really kno the character. FD ISNT good because diddy has a hard time killing MK. I never see FD in tourney regardless if i use diddy or not.

Sonic is mid tier whether u want to believe it or not.
DK should be higher.
Luigi higher.
Olimar higher.
GW slightly higher.
D3 slightly lower.
ROB slightly lower.

I'm done for now.
OK...

My thread says "Potential to move up" so why'd you list ROB and D3?

You're right, I don't know Diddy. I never said I did. I'd been told by like everyone that Diddy countered MK on FD. Including Diddy mains. Give me reasons and I'll put them up. I really hate being called ignorant... Your post is kinda hostile for no reason... I'm obviously not a Diddy main so you don't gotta get all pissed at me for something that DIDDY MAINS TOLD ME.

You got a problem with somethin, don't yell at me, tell me how to fix it. Constructive criticism people!
 

NinjaLink

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Sorry if it sounded offensive. Wasnt tryin to be. How many reputable diddy mains/players are there that places high? Just something to ask urself. Ignorant just means someone not knowing. No harm by it. If u seen me fight M2K on PS1 which is about the same size as FD u'll see why. He didnt die until like 200%. MK has no problem gimping and can kill u regardless of percent because of gimps. Diddy cant gimp in that same ease.

OH SNAP SON

YOU CANT DENY US ANYMORE!

lol finally someone reputable thats not a sonic main admits to this.

im sigging it by the way.
I've said this from the start since the game was out. Malcolm is one of the few that shows what i was talking about. The falcon that cant kill well. That's it.
 

Flamingo

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Sonic. Mid tier at least.

Just look at his tournament rankings.

:093:
That's because those tourney's were probably Sonic-only tourneys.

IMO Sonic should be moved DOWN. Falcon and Dorf are better... And plus we should do it to spite all those little Sonic fanboys. LET'S DO IT!

Ok on-topic now... Olimar needs to be on the high-end of high tier... Falco maybe lowered a little bit... Idk I just feel he's only there cause of his CG...

Sheik has better matchups than Ike, Bowser, and everyone that is currently under her now, so she should move up a wee bit.

ZSS should move up. Watch Snakeee play. That's all I have to say.

Should DDD move up to 2nd cause of his inability to completely shut down 6 chars.? IMO, no, but it's just a thought...

The ICs have infinites on all characters but themselves if they can get it right.

Diddy needs to move up... He's dang good, better than ppl imagined when he list was created.

Uhh, Ill post the rest later.

Move Ike and Bowser down though. Definately.
 

Kinzer

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That's because those tourney's were probably Sonic-only tourneys.

IMO Sonic should be moved DOWN. Falcon and Dorf are better... And plus we should do it to spite all those little Sonic fanboys. LET'S DO IT!
*Sigh* *gasp* You- D'oh @#$% it NL got ya covered.

I'll just say the first idea is ********, and at least most other people can at least see past their hate for Sonic and realise he IS a mid-tier character or at least high-bottom at worst.
 

Flamingo

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OMG SONIC... IS AMAZING... I have been rivoted by that video you have posted! rofl. rofl. rofl. I laughed at the MK who doesn't know how to play btw.

Seriously...

^ ^ ^ Hey sushiman. Watch that vid that NL posted on pg 6. You are an MK main... That video will almost be like a comedy to you! ..Seein how bad that MK failz :) Enjoy.
 

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OMG SONIC... IS AMAZING... I have been rivoted by that video you have posted! rofl. rofl. rofl. I laughed at the MK who doesn't know how to play btw.

Seriously...

^ ^ ^ Hey sushiman. Watch that vid that NL posted on pg 6. You are an MK main... That video will almost be like a comedy to you! ..Seein how bad that MK failz :) Enjoy.
Definitely proved ur new to smashboards.
 

blackanese

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lmfaoo thats Mk was me sir, and being honest i wasnt taking those matches seriously. u can ask malcom himself xD. afterwords i did play alot more focus and won the 1st set but couldnt be recorded due 2 the time length.

either way sir, i would wreck u anytime =] hopefully u come 2 nyc 1 day =]]]

btw youre fat =]

im also guessing u watch flamingo porn. get at yourself sir 4 having fetishes 4 flamingos =DDD *high 5*
 

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lmfaoo thats Mk was me sir, and being honest i wasnt taking those matches seriously. u can ask malcom himself xD. afterwords i did play alot more focus and won the 1st set but couldnt be recorded due 2 the time length.

either way sir, i would wreck u anytime =] hopefully u come 2 nyc 1 day =]]]

btw youre fat =]

im also guessing u watch flamingo porn. get at yourself sir 4 having fetishes 4 flamingos =DDD *high 5*
Dont ya love fat ppl :3
 

HeroMystic

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THIS is a better video of Sonic's awesomeness.

I think he should be top of low tier. I wouldn't mind at all if he got to mid, but a lot of his gameplay relies on mindgames.
 

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I think Yoshi, IC's, Mario, and Luigi have potentual in my opinion.
 

NinjaLink

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THIS is a better video of Sonic's awesomeness.

I think he should be top of low tier. I wouldn't mind at all if he got to mid, but a lot of his gameplay relies on mindgames.
Its the same player. Regardless my point is ppl need to learn to think for once and learn to recognize character potential.
 

Kinzer

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Don't take it from the Sonic mainers (me), take it from the pros (NinjaLink).

If you still think Sonic (seriously) sucks, then you have (serious) problems.

:093:
 

Flamingo

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lmfaoo thats Mk was me sir, and being honest i wasnt taking those matches seriously. u can ask malcom himself xD. afterwords i did play alot more focus and won the 1st set but couldnt be recorded due 2 the time length.

either way sir, i would wreck u anytime =] hopefully u come 2 nyc 1 day =]]]

btw youre fat =]

im also guessing u watch flamingo porn. get at yourself sir 4 having fetishes 4 flamingos =DDD *high 5*
Right. I love people who post videos trying to prove a character is good when their opponent isn't trying. Makes a lot of sense.

You wreck me? heh. OK!

Haha and calling people fat because they criticized your play?? I run 1-mile in 5:45. My friend, work out your insecurities and talk to me again. Edit: Good day, kid.
 

Turbo Ether

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Sonic belongs in mid. Definitely better than a few characters that are above him. Malcolm is too good.
 

Kinzer

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Right. I love people who post videos trying to prove a character is good when their opponent isn't trying. Makes a lot of sense.

You wreck me? heh. OK!

Haha and calling people fat because they criticized your play?? I run 1-mile in 5:45. My friend, work out your insecurities and talk to me again. Edit: Good day, kid.
Not the point.

He would.

Nobody cares, and just to prove to you that it doesn't matter, I can run 1/2 a mile in 2:15, just double that, and it's still faster than you. Plus it was a joke.

I need to stop feeding trolls.

:093:
 

Flamingo

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Not the point.

He would.

Nobody cares, and just to prove to you that it doesn't matter, I can run 1/2 a mile in 2:15, just double that, and it's still faster than you. Plus it was a joke.

I need to stop feeding trolls.

:093:
That's not even close to how you get a mile time. My 1/4 (or 400 or w/e) best ever was 0:57. Multiply that by 4 and you get pretty much an Olympian's time. And I could never do the olympics.. Rofl. My intelligence has dropped from listening to your false logic >.< get out.
 

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haha, doubling a 1/2 mile run time! That's just too good! pfft! Yes, you should really stop feeding trolls.

On topic though, Malcom's Sonic is freaking sick. I wish more of Brawl played that fast and radical. o.o
 

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Not the point.

He would.

Nobody cares, and just to prove to you that it doesn't matter, I can run 1/2 a mile in 2:15, just double that, and it's still faster than you. Plus it was a joke.

I need to stop feeding trolls.

:093:
lolz at the half mile time. Do you know anything about running?

Oh and Flamingo is right Sonic is horrible.. and no one is "pro" at Brawl yet lolz.
 

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He managed to lose a match even though the other guy suicided?

Proof enough.
Another person whos new. Bum is ranked #1 in NY. U sir are seriously confused. Who r u to judge anyone? U have credentials to cal someone a scrub? Really?
 

Kevin

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Zelda, her tilts and uair have good potential, along with that spammy forward+b
 

KillerSOS

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Another person whos new. Bum is ranked #1 in NY. U sir are seriously confused. Who r u to judge anyone? U have credentials to cal someone a scrub? Really?
I'm sorry I have not been able to waste gas money and drive 10 hours away to play someone in NY. I am actually in college!

Now if you want to drive down to Raleigh I will wreck you anytime =D

Too bad WiFi sucks or I would have a blast teaching you "pros" a lesson.

Oh and back on topic I would have to say Zelda will stay where she is.

No way to approach. The dtilt lock is funny though.
 

NinjaLink

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I'm sorry I have not been able to waste gas money and drive 10 hours away to play someone in NY. I am actually in college!

Now if you want to drive down to Raleigh I will wreck you anytime =D

Too bad WiFi sucks or I would have a blast teaching you "pros" a lesson.
And this guy is a comedian. College doesnt stop anyone from traveling. What a john.
 

Kevin

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zelda is staying where she is. She cant approach well and her 'spammy f-b' isnt spammy.
A defensive camping game can partially solve that. Her f-b isn't spammy if the opponent actually avoids it/air dodges it; also depending on stage though. If timed well, successive uses may work.
I'm not a dedicated Brawl player, and I've actually seen some of your vids NinjaLink (Zelda ones) so I'm not gonna question your credibility.

If she does move up, it won't be by a large margin, I would only say one or two spots, just higher in the middle tier.

Onto another point, I don't know if people will ever consider Zelda/Sheik the same character, but each one can cover some weaknesses of each other, and if this were ever the case, I could see the duo going up, factoring the vulnerability of transform of course. Though I doubt it.
 

NinjaLink

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It does when you don't have a car.

Oh and 20 credit hours.

I plan on getting a real job not becoming a "pro" smash player. =D
I dont own a car either but i still travel. Why are u even talking about this? Off Topic.


@ Kevin: Idk y they dont consider them together. Still strange but whatever.
 
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