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Lavani

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Some more that I'm less sure on:

Confirming Junebug :4lucario: (accidentally cleared him from my last post, whoops)
Chrim Foish :4diddy:
Ayuha used to play :4greninja: even after 1.0.4, but I haven't seen anything recent from him.
Adding in that last I saw of NinjaLink he played :4megaman:, though I was under the impression he played a good chunk of the cast?
LiquidKen was playing :4diddy: when I watched his smash 4 streams.
What I've seen recently of Vex was mostly :4littlemac:, he used to play :4dedede: and some other chars, dunno if he still does.
 

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NinjaLink indeed mains Megaman.

Edit: Out of what we know so far... here's the quantity of each character. I'm listing the top 5.

14 :4diddy:
9 :4sheik:
6 :4luigi:
6 :4sonic:
4 :4megaman:
4 :4zss:

Everyone else is three or lower.
Here's a full list. I only applied the ones we know for certain of whom these players are maining, so anything with a (?) I left out. I also didn't apply any decimals for possible secondaries. If they're good enough to be played in Apex then they're good enough to count as a whole number.

15 :4diddy:
10 :4sheik:
7 :4luigi:
6 :4sonic:
5 :4ness:
4 :4megaman:
4 :4zss:
3 :4falcon:
3 :4greninja:
3 :4mario:
3 :4olimar:
2 :4fox:
2 :4lucario:
2 :4pacman:
2 :4peach:
2 :4pikachu:
2 :4pit:
2 :4rob:
2 :4robinm::4robinf:
2 :rosalina:
2 :4shulk:
2 :4wario2:
1:4charizard:
1 :4darkpit:
1 :4dk:
1 :4duckhunt:
1:4ganondorf:
1 :4kirby:
1 :4littlemac:
1 :4villager:
 
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Yes, but it seems like something that can't be worked around. And then you have players like Zero and M2K claiming she's #1.
Diddy mains with a hardcore play to win mentality that consistently pick the best character in every game say Sheik is actually the best character but both play Diddy

sounds legit
 

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Hey, I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, and they're probably right about Pika.
 

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BY THE POWER OF YOUTUBE! Listing the most recent mains of these people I can find. I tried to keep the scope to the last month, but some had very little footage at all.

LOE1:4luigi:
NSM NickC:4falcon:
Akiro:4sheik:
TroyFullbuster:4diddy:
MJG:4villagerf: (most recent vid I could find was a little over a month ago)
Bladewise:rosalina:(old vids)
Venom:4lucario:
Angel Cortes(If he and SS Angel are the same guy then he plays :4ness:)
Dissent:4diddy:? (One old vid found)
BryanYDG:4jigglypuff:?
Void:4ness:
 

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Can't Say I'm surprised at the number of Diddy Mains, that number isn't likely to go down unless he gets nerfed or we implement customs.
 

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BY THE POWER OF YOUTUBE! Listing the most recent mains of these people I can find. I tried to keep the scope to the last month, but some had very little footage at all.

LOE1:4luigi:
NSM NickC:4falcon:
Akiro:4sheik:
TroyFullbuster:4diddy:
MJG:4villagerf: (most recent vid I could find was a little over a month ago)
Bladewise:rosalina:(old vids)
Venom:4lucario:
Angel Cortes(If he and SS Angel are the same guy then he plays :4ness:)
Dissent:4diddy:? (One old vid found)
BryanYDG:4jigglypuff:?
Void:4ness:
Oh look a (potential) Villager... nope still sick.
 

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And looking at the full list he might actually just be another Diddy...All these matches on Smashville and the mayor is absent? Sadness.

No, but seriously @ Enderwoman Enderwoman who plays Ganondorf on that list? Or did you mean there was only 1 on stream today?
 
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I just forgot to put Villager on there. Updated.

Despite the alarming amount of Diddys, the character spread is pretty healthy imo. We'll have to see how the top 32 is like.
 

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And looking at the full list he might actually just be another Diddy...All these matches on Smashville and the mayor is absent? Sadness.

No, but seriously @ Enderwoman Enderwoman who plays Ganondorf on that list? Or did you mean there was only 1 on stream today?
I saw someone play Ganondorf on Stream today. I don't know who it was.
 

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Void:4ness:
The player is known as gsmVoiD hails from Hawaii and mains:4sheik:. He was in Zero's pool and got 2nd with a win over DA Dire on stream. Unfortunately he lost to FOWs ness 1-2 in phase 2.
 
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Oh man. The stream won't load for some reason in my computer (Already turned it off), is there any other site I can use to watch the same stream?

Dang. Why it isn't in YouTube, just why?
 

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Looks like 16 of the top 32 are up.
Zero
Abadango
MVD
NinjaLink
M2k
FALSE
NAKAT
Dabuz
MR. R
JTails
Nairo
6WX
Nietono
Ally
AeroLink
aMSa

Erm...I guess that's the top 16? The Challonge thing says top 32 but...
 
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So here are all the players that made it out of the first round of pools. I'll separate them by 1st seed and second seed. For the mains, I just put them there based on who they used in the past or who they used on stream. I only put the characters for the players I recognize. This is so that we can get some idea of how the 1st wave of pools went for Apex in terms of character diversity. If you know anyone else's main, please say. Obviously there are a ton of players that I don't know their characters. But at least we can get some idea. If I made any mistakes let me know.

1st Seed:
Zero :4diddy:
Bloodcross :4charizard:
Shimitake :4pikachu:
Badada :4shulk::4megaman:
LoF False :4luigi::4sheik:
LeoHart :4diddy:
Zucco :4megaman:
IQHQ Ribs
Mr.R :4sheik:
Kenny :4pikachu:
VGz JuneBug :4lucario:
BengalsRZ :4zss:
Abadango :4pacman:
WIDL
DKwill :4dk:
Vex :4littlemac:?
Choco :4zss:
Chef Pac :4pacman:
6wx :4sonic:
LOE1 :4luigi:
Nietono :4sheik:
NSM NickC :4falcon:
Tyrant :4diddy:
Akiro :4sheik:
Mew2King :4diddy:
MikeKirby :4kirby:
Ninjalink :4megaman:
Chudat :4sheik:
Fliphop :4diddy:
TroyFullbuster :4diddy::4mario:
E2C_cwe
8bitman :4rob:
Aerolink :4diddy:
Tenuhe
Phuzix :4sheik:
Sync :4greninja:
Jtails :4diddy:
SuperGirlKel :4sonic:
XZAX :4robinm::4mario::4diddy:
Damu
Nairo :4darkpit::4robinm::4zss:
Boss :4luigi:
Rich Brown :4olimar:
Eazy
J Miller :4luigi:
Thunderst0rm :4luigi:
Nick Riddle :4zss:
MJG :4diddy:
Ally :4mario::4shulk:
Dao
Vinnie :4rob::4sheik:
Liquid KDJ
Nakat :4ness::4fox:
Master Raven:4sheik:
Zinoto :4diddy:
Plup :4diddy:
FOW :4ness:
BelaC :4luigi:
Denti :4diddy:
MVD :4duckhunt:
Dabuz :rosalina:
Bladewise :rosalina:
Reflex :4wario:
Myran :4olimar:





2nd Seed:
Max Ketchum :4falcon:
Xaltis :rosalina:
K9 :4sheik:
Alphicans :4littlemac:
Venom :4lucario:
Player-1 :4diddy:
HelpR
Angbad :4olimar:
MrConCon :4luigi:
Tweek :4bowserjr:
Shaky :4ness:
LingLing
Xaltic
Falln :rosalina:
Strongbad :4diddy:
Ksev
Snow :4fox:
Mr. E :4marth:
Deadend
TrueBlue :4sonic:
Dark Wizzy :4mario:
Larry Lurr :4fox:
LoF Pwii
DRN
FishBait
Derps
Chrim Foish :4diddy:
Cozy
ASR
ProfessorMGW
Zage
iRJi
Greward :4megaman:
Fatality :4falcon:
V115
DarkPch :4peach:
Meekspeedy
Static Manny :4sonic:
TKBreezy :4wiifit:?
Bosu
PInk Fresh :4peach::4pit:
Ayuha :4greninja:?
Seibrik :4megaman:
Angel Cortes :4diddy:
PikaPika! :4pikachu:
Akashi Sword :4greninja:
aMSa :4greninja:
Youngster Joey
Wizzrobe :4sheik:
Nyani :4mario::4pit:
PentaSalia :rosalina:
Dissent :4diddy:?
Peter Pi
Sky Williams :4yoshi:
BryanYDG :4jigglypuff:?
Blue :4sonic:
Wafty :4wario:
Void :4sheik:
Disqo Bunny
Cassius
IQHQ Gohan :4falcon:
2Fast :4luigi::4mario:
Seagull Joe :4sonic:
LiquidKen :4diddy:?

Updated list. Still so many names missing. At least finding out top 16 tomorrow will be easy.
 
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Ladies and Gents, the character spread of our top 16 (based on the previous data anyways.)
:4diddy:x4
:4pacman:
:4duckhunt:
:4megaman:
:4sheik:x3
:4luigi:
:rosalina:
:4sonic:
:4mario:
:4pit:
:4zss:
:4greninja:
:4pikachu:
:4wario2:
Edited for the pocket characters and drops I didn't know of.
 
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Looks like 16 of the top 32 are up.
Zero
Abadango
MVD
NinjaLink
M2k
FALSE
NAKAT
Dabuz
MR. R
JTails
Nairo
6WX
Nietono
Ally
AeroLink
aMSa

Erm...I guess that's the top 16? The Challonge thing says top 32 but...
Yeah it's only top 16 now since day 1 was lost. (only top 2 advance from pools wave 2 instead of top 4 for a 32 man bracket).

Zero:4diddy:
Abadango:4pacman::4wario:
MVD:4duckhunt:??
NinjaLink:4megaman:
M2k:4diddy:
FALSE:4sheik::4luigi:
NAKAT:4ness::4fox::4pikachu:
Dabuz:rosalina:
MR. R:4sheik:
JTails:4diddy:
Nairo:4zss::4pit:
6WX:4sonic:
Nietono:4sheik:
Ally:4mario:
AeroLink:4diddy:
aMSa:4greninja:
 

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Yeah it's only top 16 now since day 1 was lost. (only top 2 advance from pools wave 2 instead of top 4 for a 32 man bracket).

Zero:4diddy:
Abadango:4pacman::4wario:
MVD:4duckhunt:??
NinjaLink:4megaman:
M2k:4diddy:
FALSE:4sheik::4luigi:
NAKAT:4ness::4fox::4pikachu:
Dabuz:rosalina:
MR. R:4sheik:
JTails:4diddy:
Nairo:4zss::4pit:
6WX:4sonic:
Nietono:4sheik:
Ally:4mario:
AeroLink:4diddy:
aMSa:4greninja:
That's actually some pretty good diversity right there.
 

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What? So False is the only one whonplays Luigi that made it to Top 16?

Boss and J. Miller were eliminated?

UNBELIEVEABLE!
Boss and Jmiller were in the same pool with Nairo and aMSa. Apparently aMSa beat them both (but I dunno who had to play who exactly).
 
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*Gives up hope on Luigi getting in Top 8*

False probably will only switch to Luigi when he loses as Sheik.

Well, at least the Luigis did their best. That is enough.
 
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Wow, the Diddys, Sheik's and Luigis got retk in top 32. Still thinking Zero's gonna win easy (unless Ally pulls out some godlike precision unknown to mankind before), but seriously the worst case scenario of top 8 being only diddy Sheik and ZSS is extremely low at this point. I'm impressed.
 

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people overrating luigi imo. False is the only luigi up there, and luigi is his secondary. The best luigis in Boss, MrCC, JMiller didnt make it unfortunately :(
 

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4) His poor airspeed means that he is susceptible to walling tactics. Against a Mario or Yoshi spacing quick aerials, it is hard to get in outside of quick attack, for example. As with #3 above, you have to work around this limitation in matchups by using different combinations of ground and aerial moves. In my experience, b-air is pretty useless vs. Mario, but great against Yoshi, whereas up-air is not so useful against Yoshi, but great against Mario. Another Top Tier like Diddy doesn't have to mix up his game plan nearly as much: f-air and up-air are great in just about every MU, without exception (maybe against Pacman you don't use up-air quite as much because of hydrant or something).
This is the primary one I disagree with. I find that it's actually extremely hard to wall Pikachu out unless you have grounded tools that are very good for that purpose, which there are extremely few of in this game if they even do exist. Most characters in this game pretty much don't want to commit to any aerials in general if they don't have to in this game, especially against a character who is small to the point that he ducks under aerials with a lot of his animations.

Mario does wall out Pikachu's aerials easily. I've played this matchup enough to know that, but the problem he has in this matchup is SH B-air literally is just liable to not hit Pikachu at all if he doesn't jump unless you very specifically delay it to hit low, which puts you in a disadvantage in neutral, especially since Pikachu's tilts are all basically better versions of Mario's. Similarly Mario can't really abuse D-air in this matchup for two reasons. One is the final hit literally just whiffs most of the time, and in the situations where it doesn't, Pikachu actually has enough time to N-air Mario out of it.
 
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Top 128 was infested with Diddy's because he's the most popular character. While Diddy might be the best character right now, he's really common in mid to high levels because of how easy he is to pick up and do well with. Obviously Diddy and Sheik are still clearly the best characters in the game at this point, they aren't that dominating. There's a very good chance we'll see only two Diddys in Top 8. That's a lot better than what everyone was expecting. I'm pretty satisfied with how top 16 turned out in terms of character diversity. Props to Duck Hunt lol.
 

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It warms my heart to see :4duckhunt: up there after all the flak he's gotten. Very good stuff, MVD.
 

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Most Valuable Dog.

I'm really psyched to see some high-level footage of these characters that kinda fell off the radar after the Wii U launch like DH and Greninja. Rooting for NAKAT though cause Ness da bess.
 

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Was scrolling through the list Draconoa44 posted and I started giggling when I saw the huge wall of primates in red hats.

Also I do not envy Nakat's position in this tournament. He has to fight M2K, and if he wins that he has to fight Zero? Guy's got his work cut out for him.
 

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Admit it guys.

No one expected Luigi to be the 3rd most character in all of Apex.
 
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I'm just appreciating the idea forming that this may finally be a rock-paper-scissors type game.

Shout outs to all 3 of the 3rd party characters+Mario being in top 16. It just seems...right.
RITE??????????????????????
 
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I'm just happy that a good chunk of Apex top 16 is NJ/NY.

Our region too stronk.
 
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A grevious error on the part of the Apex staff.

That said I'm more then willing to bet anything False, Nairo and NAKAT would have made it regardless.
 

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Man, all you people putting Yoshi in ur top 10 and he's nowhere in sightz for even top 32.
Looks like I can be a ***** more by complaining on how bad he truly is based on my promise a few pages back -v-

Jokes aside (kinda) the fact that prolly the real Yoshi mains weren't gonna be tossing 300+ just to rep him and very likely get nowhere near the money doesn't surprise me honestly.
Kinda disappointed the only one that got out of pools from the 4 or so that did go was sky while a more decentish Yoshi like Robotnik drowned. Oh well.
 
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