BADAZZ is way too small a word

[Raikou_Cypher]

Woah! I REALLY like Dark Impact and Nightmare Plunge.

I think we've had a bunch of good suggestions in the last page. Maybe we should wrap up dB?

ewww, no :x discussions are made of win.

@pk-ow!: In the same way, perhaps, that you don't feel anything when you hear "stygian," I don't feel anything when I hear "cannon." In my opinion, cannon just doesn't fit the move very well, and this is why I think that:

We can all agree that the TP incarnation of Ganon fits him best in brawl, I hope. When I think of LoZ, I think of epic high fantasy (think Lord of the Rings), in a setting that I describe as "medieval fantasy." To me, that means a medieval-ish setting, with magic or sorcery and whatnot that makes the story awesome. When I picture that, I can't see a cannon. I don't think there's anything badass or manly about firing a cannon at someone (there could be exceptions, just none that I can think of at the moment). I say "cannon" in the previous sentence, because some firearms can be badass, but just dropping a bomb on someone? It's too easy, too simple. It lacks character/originality.

I might think to contest your definition of "shot," but I'm too lazy to type that up now, nor do I feel like discussing it at the moment, but I will just make one quick comment, being: "Shot" is not a substance. Okay, back to cool stuff.

The three names in your post I like the most are "Tyrant Heel," "Quietus Comet," and "Endurance Break." Honorable mention goes to "Bravura Halt." Just let me pull a couple words out right here that I still like...: "Abyssal Onslaught" changed the wording a bit, but I like the definition and connotations that come with "onslaught" over those that come with "surge." And, of course, "Stygian Comet." When I think of "Stygian Comet," I see a freezing black chunk of rock and fire hurtling towards whatever it may be destined to destroy. Another reason I like this, though it's not as strong a connection, is because death is often associated with being cold. "My cold, dead, fingers..." <- while not badass, it's amusing, and it was the first thing I thought of off the top of my head. I can think of multiple fantasy stories where a character descends into death and it's described as a freezing current, though. Back to the subject at hand, comets are cold because they are made of ice. Cold is good. Let me try to describe a comet one more time. Big black rock, in whatever shape you might imagine a comet to be, with splotches of dark gray so you can make out the landscape, and ice blue colored spots (Like a patch of ice, or sparks [blue sparks, that would be, though]) located sporadically around the comet. I think I'm leaving out too much darkness though, so now picture a fire surrounding the comet. Around 70% of the flames are a dark black color, and 25% of the flames are blue. The last 5% are the occasional bursts of orange flame that make it more badass. I'm leaving a lot of how you envision this up to you, so you can picture it as badass as you can imagine.

So finally, in conclusion, cool names:

- Tyrant Heel
- Quietus Comet
-Endurance Break
- Abyssal Onslaught
- Stygian Comet
- Bravura Halt (I put this name at the end because of it being rather unique. Rather than trying to sound badass, which it also does in it's own way, it relies on the opponent being compared to something skillful and graceful, which I actually like a lot. Look up bravura if you haven't heard the word before.)

 

[mofo_]

how bout abysmal instead of abyssal..it means the same thing i think it sounds better :V


edit:

also here are some adjectives that are cool and could be used in the front of the names
-abyssal/abysmal
-Aphotic
-Stygian
-dark
-evil
-painful
-atrocious
-corrupt
-destructive
-malicious
-malevolent
-paroxysmal/paroxysmic
-malignant
-nefarious
-catastrophic
-cursed
-enraged
-disastrous
-immortal
-dusk
-night
-shade/shadow
-nocturnal
-majestic
-tyrant
-despair
-doom
-ecliptic
-scourge
-morbid
-grim
-ghastly
-ominous
-sinister
-chaos
-desolate
-cruel
-demonic
-diabolical
-grievous
-dire
-deadly
-fatal
-vicious
-harsh
-foul
-discord
-murder
-nightmare
-horror
-incubus
-dismal
-eternal
-infinity
-ravenous
-berserk
-demented
-furious
-ferocious
-feral
-satanic

words that can be used as the attack
-thrust
-plunge
-bash
-strike
-pierce
-assault
-besiege
-bombard
-kick
-punch
-storm
-blow
-crush
-hammer
-punishment
-breaker
-impaler
-thrash
-rush
-lance
-spike
-spear
-gore
-agony
-assail
-pain
-maim
-mutilator
-oppression
-destroyer
-rupture
-fracture
-blast
-barrage
-slaughter
-onslaught
-gauntlet
-truculence
-pain
-agony
-aggression
-incursion
-blitz
-beset
-lambaste
-revilement
-torture
-torment
-impulse
-impact
-incubus
-nightmare
-ordeal
-apparition
-angst
-convulsion
-force
-jolt
-burst
-paroxysm
-eruption
-blare
-annihilation
-disorder
-tremor
-explosion
-cross
-collision
-bludgeon
-mace
-avarice
-berserker
-cleave
-fury
-frenzy
-power
-rage
-vex

 

[Bahamut777]

I simply... LOVED the Havoc term. Havoc Ride wouldn't be bad! =D


"Havoc" is beacuse it's what Ganon brings to the Battlefield when he DownB his victims... either by just sending them to oblivion or just canceling the DownB and following up with murder.
"Ride" fits to the concept of "riding the untamed darkness" that someone (sorry =() pointed out on the last page. I DO see Ganon "riding" the darkness like it's a Wild Horse being tamed and made into a Poney...

Murder

 

[PK-ow!]

I am liking Comet more.

It's difficult for the grounded version, though.


.... holy crap.

How awesome is it that the term Coma means the atmosphere around a comet?


With Bravura Halt, I was trying to get something that could mean the forceful stoppage of the attack, but also, a termination of something - the enemy's Bravura. I couldn't get a word that had the first meaning. Apparently, there isn't such a word as sounds rough or forceful in the act of stopping something; I only imagined it.
Similarly for Endurance Break. Sounds like a FF attack.

-abyssal/abysmal
-Aphotic
-Stygian
-dark

-cursed

-immortal

-dusk

-shade/shadow

-tyrant
-doom

-scourge

-grim
-ghastly

-demonic
-diabolical

-dire

-fatal

-murder
-nightmare

-eternal
-infinity

-----
-pierce
-assault
-storm

-blow
-crush

-hammer

-breaker
-impaler

-spike
-spear
-gore

-destroyer
-rupture

-blast
-barrage

-gauntlet

-incursion

-impact

-nightmare
-ordeal

-force

-eruption

-tremor

-cross

-collision

-mace

-cleave

With Down-B, everything comes to a point. It's a move you shouldn't be spamming, but it has to come out when the opponent foolishly wastes time from afar, or dodges, and then you remind them that you're mother-effing Ganondorf and drive purple eruption into their face.
It is similar for the aerial version. When someone forgets that you can do this in the air - even if it is a realy laggy, risky option - you plow right through what they're doing and make them DI or die (lol puns).

That's why I think spear works.

The words that stand out for me are storm, breaker, spike, spear and rupture. But especially storm. There's a kind of chaos and heartlessness in storm... yet it, in actual use even, hints at a possibility of a controlled rage, a tempered and preserved hatred, let out to do effective work - ire of the sort Ganon has.

I dismissed word like chaos because Ganon doesn't want chaos. He wants to actually own the world, not destroy it.


....

Star Strike


I want to find something like "Fated Comet" or "Eternal Comet" - the idea of Ganon's coming being something preordained, an inescapably, fated evil (a fatal occurrence, you might say).

Then I recalled the expression star-struck, which hails from the old astrology beliefs, that stars governed (or were somehow related to, if not identical with) Fate.

Spoiler

... does anyone else share the strong sense that if Comet is in the name, the other word should be two syllables and have neither rhyme or consonance with 'comet'?

Or there is cataclysm. Cataclysm is just horrible. It is an upheaval.

I also imagine a sense of knocking someone out by literally bludgeoning them with a sound wave. Apparently you can't medically cause loss of consciousness with sound itself, but presumably you can hit someone's skull hard enough with the waves...
Wizkick ain't quiet, you know.

 

[DLA]

I think we're forgetting a basic rule of writing: simplicity is key. Some of these terms are pretentiously verbose; I don't see anything badass about getting hit by a "quietus comet."

Remember, simple words are often the most effective.

 

[Raikou_Cypher]

I think we're forgetting a basic rule of writing: simplicity is key. Some of these terms are pretentiously verbose; I don't see anything badass about getting hit by a "quietus comet."

Remember, simple words are often the most effective.

I would rather a writer phrase things in an interesting, creative way that's never been done before instead of writing in a simple fashion. That's why pk-ow! is great at this sort of thing.

I also thought that it was hard to envision a comet for the grounded version, but the coma thing is awesome. When I saw the "fated" part, the first word I thought of was "destiny." Which sounds pretty cool, and fits Ganon pretty well. "Destiny" comes from "destine," which means to direct something towards a given end. I'm not going to explain how that applies to Ganon for two reasons. One, I am lazy. Two, use your imagination, he's taking hold of the universe itself and bending it to his will. Related to the last part of pk-ow!'s post, most people use "destiny" instead of "fate," with the definitions switched, so anyone can understand it. Pretty simplistic, I think. A few suggestions:

- Destined Cataclysm
- Destined Ordeal
- Destined Eruption
- Destined Incursion
- Destined Collision (first five words were ripped straight from pk-ow!'s list XD)
- Destiny Comet
- Destiny Breaker (breaking whatever destiny your opponent would be directing you towards, this meaning kinda reminds me of "bravura halt"'s intended meaning)

 

[Divilenta]

Hmmm...man this is a tough one. The best I can come up with is...

Ground: Nightmare Rider

Aerial: Dark Descension

Yes, they're lame, but it's something.

 

[Ganonsburg]

Hmmm...man this is a tough one. The best I can come up with is...

Ground: Nightmare Rider

Aerial: Dark Descension

Yes, they're lame, but it's something.

HAHA.

Nightmare Rider= http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/11/28/hoff-knight-rider-mustang.jpg


Oh! Dark Descension made me thing of descending into hell vs ascending into heaven. That make me think of Stairway to Heaven. As a (nonserious) suggestion for the aerial version: Stairway to Hell.

 

[mofo_]

descension is not word..and destiny sounds not so ganondorfish

for aerial down b we should stick with 'spear or lance' since it spikes and those words are similar to a spike
ground down b..idk if were differentiate a name for aerial and grounded .both will probably have the same name


for quake - fatal impact

 

[Ganonsburg]

descension is not word..and destiny sounds not so ganondorfish

for aerial down b we should stick with 'spear or lance' since it spikes and those words are similar to a spike
ground down b..idk if were differentiate a name for aerial and grounded .both will probably have the same name


for quake - fatal impact

I beg to differ: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/DESCENSION

 

[mofo_]

wow no wonder dictionary.com , wiktionary nor my spellchecker recognized that....its archaic

 

[Divilenta]

HAHA.

Nightmare Rider= http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/11/28/hoff-knight-rider-mustang.jpg


Oh! Dark Descension made me thing of descending into hell vs ascending into heaven. That make me think of Stairway to Heaven. As a (nonserious) suggestion for the aerial version: Stairway to Hell.

Haha oops. Told you it was lame.

Stairway to Hell lol. It actually sounds pretty cool.

wow no wonder dictionary.com , wiktionary nor my spellchecker recognized that....its archaic

Yeah it is a word. I don't know WHY it isn't used that much, but it exists.

 

[Bahamut777]

Hellbringer or Hell's Chariot, since DownB delivers the oponent into oblivion, either by spiking them to hell or just by sending them into a follow up to the death.

 

[PK-ow!]

Alright, we've been orbiting around words like havoc, destiny, Hell, and descension.

We want something meaning a final resting place, an ultimate fate of the universe sort of thing, an end times scenario.

Something eschatological-sounding.



...

Apocalypse Courser

Apocalypse Paladin

Apocalypse Reins


Apocalypse Quadrumvirate

Doom Dragoon


Actually, dragoon has mostly meanings related to Ganon, which I wasn't expecting. Too bad it's just an ugly word.

 

[Bahamut777]

Actually, dragoon has mostly meanings related to Ganon, which I wasn't expecting. Too bad it's just an ugly word.

The writing can also be Dragon, which modifies the pronounce and makes it sound good.
IMO, if we distort a bit our view, we can imagine Ganon mounting a Dragon of some kind during his DownB. A darkness dragon of sorts.
AlthoughI don't find it a good name for the move, since it doesn't gives impacting sensation...

Havoc Ride
Darkness Tame
Dragon Drive
Nightmare Plane (...lame =( )
Hell Walk (?)
Apocalypse Spear
Doom Touch

I would like to talk a bit about the last sugestion... When we ground DownB someone, we don't feel a strong impact like a FAir 180%+, a Warlock Punch or a FSmash 100%+... It's just a hit like Jab... Not somethung with grat impact. Just a little... touch.
But, it CAN'T be used with aerial DownB, since we end up covered in blood after spiking someone.

 

[Divilenta]

What about Chaotic Impact for aerial? After all, a ton of things can happen when Down-b happens in the air. Heck I think he even gets no-flinch frames. I once Wizkicked through a volley of Firecrackers. I took damage, but all Ganon did was slow down.

 

[Ace1208]

how bout: The Purple Thrust :3 loljk

 

[Z1GMA]

I like the idea of using the word 'Tide'.

...Now, how to make it sound as badazz as possible?

 

[Bahamut777]

They censored Badazz! D:

Anyway...
Tidal Darkness sounded good to me after I reed Z1GMA's post. :]

 

[*JuriHan*]

lmao the thread got censored. lame

 

[Z1GMA]

Yeah.
First they censored bad'as s', and now bad'az z'.

EDIT: Now it works.

 

[SmashBrosForce]

Why they censored the Thread ? Just Because of the word ****** ?

I can't believe this !

Lmfao !


>_>

 

[Z1GMA]

'Tidal Darkness' isn't too shabby.

Dark Tide
Tidal Destruction
Warlord Kick
Ballista
Warlock Kick
Warlock Lounge

???

 

[Bahamut777]

I was thinking... Ganon is a Warlord or a Warlock? o_õ

 

[Hobs]

'Tidal Darkness' isn't too shabby.

Dark Tide
Tidal Destruction
Warlord Kick
Ballista
Warlock Kick
Warlock Lounge

???

Uh... was that a typo or does lounge have a different meaning than a leisurely resting place?

And Ganon is a warlock, which people say is a male witch.

 

[Bahamut777]

And Ganon is a warlock, which people say is a male witch.

There's the problem... Ganon doesn't use "magic" o_õ
Of course he slaves Darkness and uses it as it were his, but that's not magic... Well, watever... Warlock is a so da*m BADAZZ word! =DD

 

[Noobicidal]

Warlock Lounge

I'm imagining Ganon in a low-lit piano lounge. The chairs and couches are tinted purple, the bartender is quiet, but he knows his mixes flawlessly, and Ganon's sitting there, with a beverage of his choice in hand, listening to the light and elegant melodies in the background.

We should extrapolate on the lounge idea.

 

[Hobs]

I'm no Zelda fan, but I thought Ganon gets magic from the triforce pieces.

 

[Noobicidal]

I'm no Zelda fan, but I thought Ganon gets magic from the triforce pieces.

The Gerudo, though rare, can wield magic. The Triforce of Power merely amplifies Ganon's natural abilities.

 

[Z1GMA]

lmao... I just ment 'Lunge'.

 

[Raikou_Cypher]

warlock > warlord

warlock sounds cooler, and warlord doesn't really fit anything set in Hyrule.
Pk, how could you? XD paladin has connotations of being holy in this day and age. I kinda like the name "Proeliator Arcanum." Since we've been playing around with Latin lately, I decided to use "proeliator," which means "warrior" or "fighter," however you prefer to translate it. Everyone should at least get the gist of "arcanum," but I would be fine with roughly translating it in this context as "of unknown origin." Since the English pronunciation of "proeliator" is uncool, I've been saying "ah" in place of a long "a." Moar Latin :D So the whole thing is meant to mean "warrior of unknown origin."

"But we know his origin, he's a gerudo!" you say? The gerudo are all female, how do they have a male child every 1,000 years? It's a secret to everybody. There's your "unknown origin" :D

 

[IC3R]

Perhaps some of them are actually shemales?
Or they have a huge hidden sperm-bank?

/dumbtheories

 

[waldorf2007]

Havoc Strike

in b4 I HAVEN'T PLAYED TALES OF SYMPHONIA DotNW

Seriously it's the best move in the game, and it's like the same animation. and havoc strike sounds just plain cool anyway. also "wiztruck" but that's already something I bet

 

[PK-ow!]

warlock > warlord

warlock sounds cooler, and warlord doesn't really fit anything set in Hyrule.
Pk, how could you? XD paladin has connotations of being holy in this day and age. I kinda like the name "Proeliator Arcanum." Since we've been playing around with Latin lately, I decided to use "proeliator," which means "warrior" or "fighter," however you prefer to translate it. Everyone should at least get the gist of "arcanum," but I would be fine with roughly translating it in this context as "of unknown origin." Since the English pronunciation of "proeliator" is uncool, I've been saying "ah" in place of a long "a." Moar Latin :D So the whole thing is meant to mean "warrior of unknown origin."

"But we know his origin, he's a gerudo!" you say? The gerudo are all female, how do they have a male child every 1,000 years? It's a secret to everybody. There's your "unknown origin" :D

No, see? No.


... we're getting too technical.


Thankfully, all of the foregoing does point in a direction.

We're all trying hard to get something that contains all the ******ness we know Down-B has. But it's hard to settle on any permutation of words. Because they deny other avenues, because they have subtly different appeals to us... in short, because no word is the same as its token. '******' isn't ******. 'Havoc' isn't havoc.

The name will never feel as hard as it should. I wanted to hope Nightmare Curtain would be ****** enough.... but it just doesn't feel like anything to you guys. Someone has wanted Warlord, Lunge, and Havoc to "be it"... but they all are 'not enough' by some way of looking at it.
And this seems to be a refrain, for as long as we come at it in this way.


We have two solutions:

1. Go down a different path entirely (i.e., find a name that matches Down-B not by trying to simulate Down-B's effect in any way)

2. Try harder. Maybe the perfect word really is out there.

 

[Z1GMA]

We're all trying hard to get something that contains all the ******ness we know Down-B has. But it's hard to settle on any permutation of words. Because they deny other avenues, because they have subtly different appeals to us... in short, because no word is the same as its token. '******' isn't ******. 'Havoc' isn't havoc.

The name will never feel as hard as it should. I wanted to hope Nightmare Curtain would be ****** enough.... but it just doesn't feel like anything to you guys. Someone has wanted Warlord, Lunge, and Havoc to "be it"... but they all are 'not enough' by some way of looking at it.
And this seems to be a refrain, for as long as we come at it in this way.:

Seems like this is the case.

Well... We'll get back to down+b in the future.
Wizkick stays (for now) (and maybe forever) .

¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤

Let's move on to Usmash

My Starting Suggestion here is OBELISK.

 

[Superspright]

Trumping Testes. Because his balls got some good priority.

 

[PK-ow!]

Moons of Jupiter


... needs no explanation.


Or maybe Spheres of Jupiter.

. . . Jupiter's Orbit.

 

[Ganonsburg]

That works even better PK-ow! because Jupiter is a freaking god (king of the gods, no less). So it speaks for Ganon's manliness throughJupiter's (the planet) size, and his power through Jupiter's (the god) powers.

And then when someone gets hit by it, we can say they got mooned. Which can mean the obvious, but is also a subtle reference to Majora's Mask (see: Majora's Mask Abridged).

I don't know whether I like 'Moons of Jupiter' or 'Jupiter's Orbit' more.

 

[Bahamut777]

Dragon Slayer

The Impaler

Jupter's Ascending

Pluto's Crown (I prefer this one, since Pluto is the planet star that simbolizes Death)

 

[stRIP]

IASAIYA

IASA in your ***

Lol Isai.