Q&A Ask about Pikachu! Hosted by Axe and N64! feat. dkuo!

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

So i'm crazy and very gay I have mad fun as puff, kirby, sheik, ice climbers. Pichu da best. This makes me sad.

 

[AXE 09]

Jeff you have to play Falcon to be able to talk to girls. Then you will have natural confidence

But as Falcon you have to approach the girl yourself. I always just hope that my Pikachu is cute enough for the girl to approach me instead since I'll never summon up the courage to go up to them lol. Falcon's just too manly.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

If they they dash in jolt them into a grab so you have a good hold of them.

Also axe I space my jolts so they bounce up when shined and then I punish my brother for it is there any reason why this shouldn't work if he has alreadly made the mistake?

 

[AXE 09]

The Fox/Falco players I play pretty much never shine an aeriel thunderjolt back. Most decent level players will likely react to the startup time animation for your thunderjolt and run under it to punish you for your lag. Or they might fall back a bit to shine it after it hits the ground.

Sometimes (even against high level players), a spacie will like to shine your grounded thunderjolts back at you. I've hit a few fox/falco players with a running full jump FF dair during the lag of the shine after it reflects the jolt, but I'm not sure if they were able to escape or not. Regardless, sometimes this is still a good thing to do to punish those kinds of players.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

yeah unless they are fox fast it's hard to punish you for jolting well.

I like jolts mixup-s on ground(I can't rememeber the last time I did it) full hop, Running SH to 2nd jump backwards to jolt they may mistake you for trying to nair them.

 

[soju]

So i'm crazy and very gay I have mad fun as puff, kirby, sheik, ice climbers. Pichu da best. This makes me sad.

:B sorry for making you sad, I was just saying why Pikachu's better at getting the ladies for most people, you my friend, are an exception XD

But as Falcon you have to approach the girl yourself. I always just hope that my Pikachu is cute enough for the girl to approach me instead since I'll never summon up the courage to go up to them lol. Falcon's just too manly.

=3= I'll teach you how to approach the girls Axe, now which one, Peach, Zelda, Nana, Sheik, or Samus? lol =w=

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

I weird most women away . also I don't know how to follow up after my approach and combo starter.

 

[Mariabattleaxe]

It was an honor getting to meet you
I'm sorry I couldn't say much to you when we met. I get so nervous around girls lol. But hopefully we'll get to talk and meet again someday ^^

oh it was an honor for me to meet you, I was super nervous too cause I like to watch your videos and stuff a lot and because your set against Armada was so amazing. I am glad I got to meet you


Also, I would like to participate more on the Pika boards. I am dropping Marth as my main because I am more comfortable with Pikachu's playstyle.
I am not very good yet but would like to be

 

[soju]

I weird most women away . also I don't know how to follow up after my approach and combo starter.

Pshh that's the problem of most gamers =3= well after you get the combo started you should try and chaingrab her, then start doing some juggling, you can add a couple of thunders in it to add a twist, and when you think she's had enough finish it off with a smash attack, if ya catch my flow ;3 or you can just be asian, you get bonus points for that XDD

Also, I would like to participate more on the Pika boards. I am dropping Marth as my main because I am more comfortable with Pikachu's playstyle.
I am not very good yet but would like to be

Story of my life =w= well one of the biggest thing to overcome, well for most low tier users, is going to be the realization that Pikachu isn't as good as some of the other character and your decision if your going to truly stick with him or not. Pikachu is actually a rather easy character to learn tech skills wise, unless you want to learn the fluid quick attack techniques that axe uses, but you'll soon realize his flaws outnumber his perks. I won't get into details about the many flaws and perks of chu, but if you can get over his flaws, he might actually be a good character for you =w=

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

I'm white and white makes right so I would think I would get points for that.


Also when it comes down to it pikachu only has a few flaws but they crilp him horriblely.

1. can't take a hit
2.bad range

same for pichu but better and worse in some ways.

 

[Mariabattleaxe]

Oh I understand pika is a low tier, but I love him so much and he is so fun to play. I have fun playing him, where I did not necessarily have fun with Marth.

I am sticking with Pika

 

[Taj278]

LOL Battleaxe! Coincidence?! Perhaps... DESTINY!

 

[Palpi]

LOL.

Screw high tiers! Play characters you have fun with and are comfortable with.

Marth is no fun to play...but roy ****s people up =]

 

[Mariabattleaxe]

LOL Battleaxe! Coincidence?! Perhaps... DESTINY!

oh I definitely thought about this, especially when people started yelling out battleaxe when Axe was playing on Battlefield

but yeah low tiers <3

I love to play Mewtwo and Pichu too.

 

[AXE 09]

LOL Battleaxe! Coincidence?! Perhaps... DESTINY!

Lol! This is definitely destiny! =D

Any character can be good. You just have to make your character's strengths cover up for its weaknesses I'm so glad you're playing pikachu Maria!

 

[Mariabattleaxe]

Thanks! I am glad too, I do have a lot of questions though but I think I am kind of shy to ask in case they are silly.
Could I maybe listen in on your conferences sometimes? I think once I start using Pikachu in tournament and learning more about him I will feel more comfortable asking stuff XD

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

What do you like about pikachu? you said you like pichu but we all know we can't be good as both.

pichu more= mindgames, better grab game in whole, harder to hit but takes hits much worse, more tech skill needed, faster

pikachu more= worse defencebut takes hits, better upwards kill power worse kill power from side normally(floatier they are the better pikachu's f-smash is compared to pichu's), better overall range, little bit more aggerive.

 

[GamerGuitarist7]

Any character can be good.

Except for Tim's Yoshi.

 

[V3ctorMan]

Except for Gamer's anything,

even then Gamer's ****! <3

 

[Palpi]

Lol! This is definitely destiny! =D

Any character can be good. You just have to make your character's strengths cover up for its weaknesses I'm so glad you're playing pikachu Maria!

Even roy can be good?

oh yeah...my sig is epic...someone mail him a disc!

 

[soju]

What's his address? I'll send him a melee disk AND A LOLIPOP :D

 

[Palpi]

Message him on Smashboards haha. Roy rep ftw!

 

[genkaku]

I just picked up pikachu this afternoon as a mix-up against a doc. Haven't had this much fun with melee in a long time, and I love the game to pieces.
Anyway, the only real issue I ran across was the cooldown after I use B up into the ground. Pikachu just crouches there for way too long. Is there a way to avoid this?

 

[Strong Badam]

mariabattleaxe x axe 4eva

 

[soju]

I just picked up pikachu this afternoon as a mix-up against a doc. Haven't had this much fun with melee in a long time, and I love the game to pieces.
Anyway, the only real issue I ran across was the cooldown after I use B up into the ground. Pikachu just crouches there for way too long. Is there a way to avoid this?

pretty simple actually, just make sure the end of the up-b ends right above the ground, not on it, then you can continue with all your Pikachu shenanigans =w=

 

[N64]

I just picked up pikachu this afternoon as a mix-up against a doc. Haven't had this much fun with melee in a long time, and I love the game to pieces.
Anyway, the only real issue I ran across was the cooldown after I use B up into the ground. Pikachu just crouches there for way too long. Is there a way to avoid this?

If you upB into the ground, or upB across the ground so that the upB ends very low, pika will have a lot of lag. If the upB ends too high, he'll fall and have a little less lag once he hits the ground (but still a lot). If you end the upB close but not exactly next to the ground, he'll land and have little lag. The best way to replicate this is to just jump and then immediately upB directly forwards the moment you leave the ground while on the stage, and you should see how much lag he has. Play around with this some and you should get a decent feel for it.

The simple (but not always available) option is to sweetspot the ledge, then you don't have to worry about it : )

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

on both parts of up-B to can only have the ending part touch the ground i've studied this carefully meaning if you are going straight across the stage you will lag unless only the end part touch about as long as pikachu

 

[soju]

Running jump off stage, jump back, thunder before you reach the stage, awesome edgeguard bait against Marth and those with slower recoveries. =w=

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

Hey I went to a tournment today and everyone I played as didn't seem nearly as good as pichu. my sheik did 3 stock someone but that's as far it went. Really my pichu with mindgames is mad good at times. however i'll go far being 4 stocked to winning fairly well.

I'm proud that my pichu is defly better than my space aniamls which is all my brother will let me play as sometimes

 

[AXE 09]

mariabattleaxe x axe 4eva

Haha nooo I wish

I just picked up pikachu this afternoon as a mix-up against a doc. Haven't had this much fun with melee in a long time, and I love the game to pieces.
Anyway, the only real issue I ran across was the cooldown after I use B up into the ground. Pikachu just crouches there for way too long. Is there a way to avoid this?

Looks like Soju and N64 already covered this If you up-b into the floor, the lag is so terrible Try your best to never do this.

 

[Palpi]

Yeah, its like punishing a sheik that landed on the ground and that is ridiculously easy.

 

[Vanitas]

What attacks do you use to approach with Pikachu?

 

[ChivalRuse]

Nair and d-tilt.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

running full hop jolt spaced if spaced right it's very hard to punish right even if they shine it back.

 

[indigestible_wad]

If you running full hop jolt and leave the ground at a certain point on stages with platforms, you can land on the platform while the jolt continues below the platform. Like on pokemon stadium, if you start your jump right on top of those little yellow triangles in the middle of the stage, you will land on the nearside edge of the platform on the opposite half of the stage. So if you jump at the triangle on the left side of the stage going right, you will land on the left edge of the right platform.

I haven't found much use for it, but it could be useful against characters like fox who can nair it or upsmash and also hit you because you run into it. This just stops them from getting that hit. I haven't tested it for punishment capability, but I doubt there is much because of the lag from jolt.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

if gannon is approaching you jump and jolt the platform he will get hit and turn around and you can mess with him same very other tall people better vs gannon when your near the edge.

 

[Palpi]

Psh... A Ganon approaching =]

 

[AXE 09]

I really like Dtilt as my main approach. It seems to be very safe, and when you hit someone with it you can usually follow up with a shffl Nair or grab because they're usually too slow to react lol. But if you want an actual combo approach, Nair is the way to go. Just be careful, because if you miss then you're pretty likely to get punished once you land. However if you hit them with it, you can usually combo with either a Dtilt, Ftilt, Usmash, Dsmash, or another Nair.

Running full jump thunderjolt is a very good approach for those who are too afraid to attack through it. I recommend trying this at least once. If your opponent attacks through it, I probably would never try it again. However if their reaction is to block or try anything else other than attack, then this approach works very well especially since it combos into Usmash most of the time.

Running Dsmash is a good approach for catching someone off guard. Many people I fight will run into it. Be careful though because if they're smart enough to not run into it, you will get punished. I recommend to also try this at least once and see what happens.

If all else fails, approach with a running SH -> Waveland backwards. Most people's reaction is to try to grab you once you land, but your waveland will make them miss the grab. Counterattack during the lag of their grab with a Usmash or a grab of your own (or maybe another move if you wanna mix things up). Hope this helped

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

Great mix-ups Running SH 2nd jump away hard into a jolt.

also d-tilt is great vs sheiks at least better for pikachu.

also i've been meaning to test something out like jump (sh/full i'm not sure) into them trying to attack in to 2nd away in thunder as pichu there are great rewards and it beats more projectiles as in cancels more needles than pikachu's does that and if tehy are FFers all 4 hits let you combo. last 3 works vs falcon/roy/gannon maybe sheik, and last hit I know i've goten many combos from pichu dittos.

thunder combos are so amazing they'ar better than landing a falcon punch because they know they were mindraped, and are about to die and they just got f***ed up by pichu.

 

[Smasher89]

How does Pikachu work against campy CFplayers?
Kinda want to play in a more offensive way not getting timed so thinking if it´s a good choice to try him as a secondary (as hanging on the ledge seems like a good edgeguard against peach too...)