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[BleachigoZX]

I almost sent ADHD to losers yesterday in a tournament set. But I missed the edge-hog, and proceeded to roll into a banana and lost. I am mad.

 

[gunterrsmash01]

I have a question.

Where have Denzi/Japu/Pure Awesome/Ozz/Vlade been? You guys better have found something super sexy for having not posted in days.

The Falco Back Room's a pretty cool place.

 

[Teran]

The Falco Back Room's a pretty cool place.

Do ho ho!

You must die. >.>

 

[Denzi]

I have a question.

Where have Denzi/Japu/Pure Awesome/Ozz/Vlade been? You guys better have found something super sexy for having not posted in days.

Umm... Well... stuff.

Part of it is that you guys are getting better at answering these qusestions so that we don't have to as much, and the other part (at least for me) is that the end of the school year is coming up and I have been very busy lately.

 

[Hawks go Caw]

Yeah. I figured a lot of it had to do with school for some of you. I had finals the week before so I was away a lot. It's coo'.

 

[Tommy_G]

The Falco Back Room's a pretty cool place.

yeah well I wouldn't know seeing as you(you as in you falco BR-ers) kicked me out of it. XD

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

I'm under the same problem of being busy, but not that tennis is over with, I now have 3 more hours of the day to myself xD

yeah well I wouldn't know seeing as you(you as in you falco BR-ers) kicked me out of it. XD

Tommy was gaining too much influence in the backroom and other falco back roomers found you a threat

 

[BleachigoZX]

I'm prolly the only non-BR'er here aren't I?

 

[superglucose]

In short: no.

What am I supposed to do vs Marth? I played RedJ yesterday and when he stopped ****ing around (at least I hope he was ****ing around the first game) he three stocked me with no problems at all. I get that I need to avoid being grabbed, but any ideas on how I can do that for a whole match?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

In short: no.

What am I supposed to do vs Marth? I played RedJ yesterday and when he stopped ****ing around (at least I hope he was ****ing around the first game) he three stocked me with no problems at all. I get that I need to avoid being grabbed, but any ideas on how I can do that for a whole match?

Many SHL's, mix it up with phantasm on DIFFERENT DISTANCES, else he will predict it.

if he screws his SHfair spacing up you can shieldgrab him and CG then try to predict his upB.

 

[gunterrsmash01]

yeah well I wouldn't know seeing as you(you as in you falco BR-ers) kicked me out of it. XD

You kinda left yourself in terms of activeness..... anyways i havent seen you around much :/

 

[Teran]

I'm prolly the only non-BR'er here aren't I?

No, you're not. XD

 

[Emperor Time]

Many SHL's, mix it up with phantasm on DIFFERENT DISTANCES, else he will predict it.

if he screws his SHfair spacing up you can shieldgrab him and CG then try to predict his upB.

The thing that ticks me off is that that's almost all that we can do.
I REALLY advise that you pick another character vs Marth, but w/e.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

It's sort of weird facing Marth. We can either kill marth or be killed.

Falco will control the whole stage with lasers up to the point of about a marth roll distance away from falco. Once a little closer than that marth can space us so that lasers would be stupid idea to use as he is too close. But also that falco cannot attack with anything against marth because he sword point is too long. But once you get a little past tipping range on the sword, marth is close enough for us to really mess him up as we have good OoS options to mess up the lag on sword attacks that we shield or dodge.

I deal with marth in that I space and hang around those zones that falco will excel in aganinst marth. Lasers on approach and into attacks, phantasm to reset. OoS options are really the only way I get any other mode of damage in. Plus, normal edgeguarding and stuff like that.

 

[Cross.]

I play a marth alot so I know how it is. If you sheild a well spaced fair you can punish him with IAP out of sheild. He can't really do much against lasers if hes far so you can try to pressure him with that and punish his approach as he tries to get through the lasers. One thing you have to be wary of is that Up B. He will Up B you through almost anything. Your Jab combo, Jab->Grab, and especially if you hit his shield. Overall its pretty gay and pretty much like a game of tag against marth. Not my favorite match up at all.

 

[BleachigoZX]

It's hard.

I Single Laser into a Ground Laser. Becuase Marth can Full hop over our double laser. (If he AD's we can IAP or Dash Attack for a punish, the ground laser screws up there timing and judgment in when to block).

Up close just Up-tilt and Throw. Try staying directly below Marth they will waste there jump or try to scare you away with a attack.(Don't be Marth cannot properly avoid punishment without his 2nd jump or a good frame trap[OoS will greatly help here, I whore Bair simply because it is a guarantee punish. Trying Dair is risky, getting perfect shielded by a Marth is bad]).

Phantasm knowing you will land more than a Dash away from Marth because he can usually cover that distance from a shield.

I also like poping Marth into the air. Dash away then back into him. This scares everyone.

PS: I'm still mad I missed my opportunity of knocking ADHD to losers yesterday...

 

[gunterrsmash01]

Uptilt works wonders against Marth. IAP is really good, and you should grab way more than jab because he can just Up-B out of your jab.

 

[Denzi]

Uptilt works wonders against Marth. IAP is really good, and you should grab way more than jab because he can just Up-B out of your jab.

^This. Jabbing is dangerous, but you still need to be close to Marth to win, so it's tough because part of our CQC game has to be cut out.

Didn't look to see if anyone has said this, but watch out for Marth's 0%-death.

 

[AvoiD]

I like how when focusing on Top/High tier characters, we forget about Low/Mid tiers. And outta' no where, they end up ****** us

Any suggestions on playing Link? Not that hard of a matchup as lasers basically wins you the match imo, just like to see what others users would say.

 

[Jon?]

Sorry to be a nub, but what does IAP stand for? I can't recall what it was an acronym for.

 

[Emperor Time]

Instant Ariel Phantasm. Jumpin' and then phantasming as quickly as possible cuts the lag and blah,blah,blah.

Kuro is so right. I end up losing to mid-tier b/c I've been meatriding on mk/snake/wario all the time.

Link is more dangerous than most people think. I think it's important to limit his projectile game and be wary of moves like Dair, Nair, and Zair. Everything else is grab,pew,pew, rinse repeat.

 

[JCav]

hello i have a question and i hope i can get an answer.

i come from the wolf boards but i consider falco as a character i play very often and even in tournaments

anyways, for wolf i recently tested every move to use to DI when hit vertically and horizontally and i got some results that i did not expect

so my question to use is, when you get hit by a move with a vertical trajectory, which move do you use?
and when you get hit by a move with a horizontal trajectory, which move do you use?

 

[SuSa]

Go look at frame data, use your fastest move.

 

[Jon?]

hello i have a question and i hope i can get an answer.

i come from the wolf boards but i consider falco as a character i play very often and even in tournaments

anyways, for wolf i recently tested every move to use to DI when hit vertically and horizontally and i got some results that i did not expect

so my question to use is, when you get hit by a move with a vertical trajectory, which move do you use?
and when you get hit by a move with a horizontal trajectory, which move do you use?

Usually Bair is used.

 

[JCav]

Go look at frame data, use your fastest move.

well heres what i found (should have posted before, sorry about that) but i did frame data on wolf too and his aerial with the least amount of total frames is Back Air.

however, when hit horizontally Nair is the better option. Nair also has a hitbox that comes out on frame 2. but this doesnt make sense because i didnt think hitboxes applied in the air.

also with wolf, when hit vertically, down air is the best option but has no visible momentum properties.

the last thing ill note is that nair can save wolf 2% and dair 1% for the directions i mentioned earlier

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

I like how when focusing on Top/High tier characters, we forget about Low/Mid tiers. And outta' no where, they end up ****** us

Any suggestions on playing Link? Not that hard of a matchup as lasers basically wins you the match imo, just like to see what others users would say.

I play a good link on a regular basis It's online though, but I still know the ways of the link.

In essence, falco has the advantage. Better spacing tools and all. The tricky thing is that if your not used to fighting a really good link, be prepared to see a few things you wouldn't normally see. Once you have the match up figured out, then fighting link is easy. For me though, powershielding is impared because of the wifi lag. So zair and boomerang take a larger toll.

 

[Vlade]

I like how when focusing on Top/High tier characters, we forget about Low/Mid tiers. And outta' no where, they end up ****** us

Any suggestions on playing Link? Not that hard of a matchup as lasers basically wins you the match imo, just like to see what others users would say.

I think Luigi and Jigglypuff can do decently against falco as lower tier characters, particularly if you play too aggressively.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Can I have confirmation that the CG vs GW and TL is walking?

 

[MetalMusicMan]

If you play against a good Link, they can make the matchup really, really hard. It's not as slighted towards Falco as you might think if the link knows to self damage or bomb hold to avoid the initial chain grab.

 

[JCav]

soooo what about my question?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

soooo what about my question?

It's been answered.

Always use your fastest aerial.

 

[Hawks go Caw]

Can I have confirmation that the CG vs GW and TL is walking?

If you do running, they can UpB out of it.

 

[Corrupted]

DEHF doesn't jab cancel. Is it not guarenteed?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

If you do running, they can UpB out of it.

So why isn't that information noted in the chaingrab thread? Don't take any offense, I don't question your knowledge, I'm just curious.

Thanks for the help.

 

[ftl]

DEHF doesn't jab cancel. Is it not guarenteed?

Correct, jab cancels are not guaranteed.

 

[Tommy_G]

DEHF doesn't jab cancel. Is it not guarenteed?

It's slightly not guaranteed. If it's Marth or MK, they can up B you. Most characters can get out at low percents by spamming the jab button and at high percents by using a fast neutral when getting popped into the air.

However, I still use it regardless of it not being guaranteed. If they do spam and end up getting out of it, then I know they're either too aggressive or they like to attack when they think you're going to get close. It teaches me to shield grab more or to bait attacks more and I only take about 7 percent to learn it.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

It's slightly not guaranteed. If it's Marth or MK, they can up B you. Most characters can get out at low percents by spamming the jab button and at high percents by using a fast neutral when getting popped into the air.

However, I still use it regardless of it not being guaranteed. If they do spam and end up getting out of it, then I know they're either too aggressive or they like to attack when they think you're going to get close. It teaches me to shield grab more or to bait attacks more and I only take about 7 percent to learn it.

Ah, that's something I gotta get into my game.

I really gotta work on my scanning the opponent, I'm starting to get better at it though

 

[Hawks go Caw]

So why isn't that information noted in the chaingrab thread? Don't take any offense, I don't question your knowledge, I'm just curious.

Thanks for the help.

It's not erroneous as much as it is incomplete, like many of the things on the Falco boards (*coughmatchup/zoningdiscussionscough*) .

 

[BleachigoZX]

We has weak boards.

*marthboardsaresoooorganizedit'snotevenfunny*

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

We has weak boards.

*marthboardsaresoooorganizedit'snotevenfunny*

Falco is just underused, thus not much attention is put this way. Also, others are really busy. Snake Boards are pretty much run by a couple of people. If we really wanted to organize this place we probably could appoint postions like in a store

Ozz: He will be CEO for he spends all his times these days in the Falco BackRooms doing who know what, but yet still seeming to be very important.

Vlade: He'll be president for being Australian, australians are just cool that way. (I bet that is how he got Modship for being Australian )

Pure: Incharge of advertising falco and finding more ways for falco to be flashy.

J4pu: Given the title of law enforcement. He cracks down on making sure everyone gets the facts right. (If anyone sees him tell him this from me :D)

Denzi/BladeTeran17: They can be supervisors. They are important to the public falco boards as they keep things running smoothly and providing us with some direction in making sure the grassroots don't die.

DEHF/SK92/etc.: They will be incharge of going out into the world and making sure Falco is given a name and represent us.

Everyone Else: Falco boards don't exist without us to give life to posts that sustain the falco boards.

To anyone else I didn't mention by name, it's not that you aren't important, it is just that I don't know you all that well.