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[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Your suppose to jab first <_< *bangs head on desk* That would solve all of my light pillaring problems.

 

[Hawks go Caw]

Your suppose to jab first <_< *bangs head on desk* That would solve all of my light pillaring problems.

I haven't had any problems without jabbing . . . .

 

[J4pu]

jab isn't necessary, it changes when they have the opportunity to escape.
w/o jab they can escape after the Dair
w/ jab they can escape after the jab

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

The problems I have been having are people dodging or something like that before the 7 frames of the grab start. With the 2-3 frame jab that messes them up sooner.

 

[fragbait]

CG. You can CG olimar to, I think, 30% or so? Something like that. It's not something worth going for usually, since Oli isn't easy to grab for Falco and since you can only CG him a couple of times, but if you happen to grab him at 0%, just do CG->dair or CG->gatling.

Agreed. CG to 30 then immediately go on offensive. Presure him to the point that he can't pikmin throw.

 

[Sukai]

Hey, I've seen alot of good Falcos dash immediately after a short hop laser.
For some reason, I have a hard problem dashing afterwards, it seems that no matter how hard I tap the control stick, he just walks.

I'd be able to be more fluid and aggressive this way, but I suck at the application.
Any advice?

 

[Vlade]

Try buffering the dash.

 

[Sukai]

Try buffering the dash.

Care to elaborate?

 

[mr.fizwidget]

discuss pikas new cg on falco till 108%

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

it sucks buts not as bad as ic

 

[Denzi]

Care to elaborate?

You input the dash before your Dthrow actually finishes, allowing you to start dashing on the earliest frame possible.

 

[J4pu]

If you're walking rather than dashing when you know you pushed the control stick fast enough it's because you did it too early, wait a little longer before buffering your dash.

guys telling him to buffer a dash doesn't help when the problem is with his timing for buffering the dash.

 

[Denzi]

If you're walking rather than dashing when you know you pushed the control stick fast enough it's because you did it too early, wait a little longer before buffering your dash.

guys telling him to buffer a dash doesn't help when the problem is with his timing for buffering the dash.

Sorry. I thought that he meant he didn't know what a buffered dash was.

 

[KRiMz0N]

what's falco's best kill move

 

[Vlade]

Technically it's usmash.

Although it has short range, iirc it only takes 7 frames to start up. It's also 'easily' set up with lasers.

 

[KRiMz0N]

ah. what %s does a cstick usmash normally kill at

 

[Denzi]

ah. what %s does a cstick usmash normally kill at

Depends on the character you're facing.

 

[ftl]

ah. what %s does a cstick usmash normally kill at

This thread ( http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=202034&highlight=boost+kill+percentages ) has some rough estimates. This is for a boost smash which isn't C-sticked; also, this doesn't take into account DI. So in reality, a C-sticked upsmash will kill a bit later. (I'd guess 5-10% later, depending on how good the opponent's DI is). Also this assumes it's completely unstaled. And doesn't take into account stages.

So in a real match it's going to vary, but those are some numbers to guide the eye.

 

[Edrid]

At what point should I start learning AT's?

Right now, I can deal with Level 6 Comps. easily (haha n00b /pointandlaugh)

I use chaingrabbing right now and I feel pretty comfortable as I'm learning SHDL. Should I be learning these AT's or is it too early in my development as a player?

 

[kismet2]

At what point should I start learning AT's?

Right now, I can deal with Level 6 Comps. easily (haha n00b /pointandlaugh)

I use chaingrabbing right now and I feel pretty comfortable as I'm learning SHDL. Should I be learning these AT's or is it too early in my development as a player?

You should be learning ATs now. Being able to handle level 6 computers doesn't make you a noob, the fact that you are playing computers make you a noob. Jk(but you do need to play more people). It's never too early or too late to be learning ATs. You're going to need them, doesn't matter how good or bad you are.

 

[Hawks go Caw]

You should be learning ATs now. Being able to handle level 6 computers doesn't make you a noob, the fact that you are playing computers make you a noob. Jk(but you do need to play more people). It's never too early or too late to be learning ATs. You're going to need them, doesn't matter how good or bad you are.

Ditto.
Don't just be able to do them though. It's more important to be able to implement them.

 

[Edrid]

What's the best way to play players around my skill level 1v1 when I can't have someone come over? Does this site have a good FC swapping system?

 

[Denzi]

What's the best way to play players around my skill level 1v1 when I can't have someone come over? Does this site have a good FC swapping system?

This site's Friend Finder is down right now, and since we don't know exactly when it'll be back, most of us use this site:

http://fauxfinder.nfshost.com/

 

[GwJ]

While that is a good site, I'd say more people use http://www.allisbrawl.com.
I'm not an AiB fanboy, I'm just saying it how it is.

 

[Denzi]

While that is a good site, I'd say more people use http://www.allisbrawl.com.
I'm not an AiB fanboy, I'm just saying it how it is.

Meh, I guess you're right. I'm not a big fan of AiB, so I kind of forgot about it.

 

[J4pu]

Aib is good for finding tournaments close to you also.

 

[Hawks go Caw]

Question 'bout Japes: How do you phantasm from the middle platform and reach the far side of the side platforms? Everytime I try I either get the near side of the platform or I pass that up and fall into the river.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp7ykxTzwfQ <---Like in that video

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Space yourself so that the phantasm won't hit the first ledge. So you have to be pretty close to the edge. I'd say about a ftilt's distance from the edge or so.

From there just phantasm and then hold the control stick in the direction to the edge. Without that moving the control stick in the direction do the ledge you don't auto-grab the ledge.

 

[Jupz]

Do you have to IAP to do it or can you just side-b?

 

[Denzi]

Do you have to IAP to do it or can you just side-b?

Just side B.

 

[Jupz]

ok, thanks

 

[Teran]

Apart from Pika CG, did anything groudbreaking get discovered while I was away?

 

[Denzi]

Apart from Pika CG, did anything groudbreaking get discovered while I was away?

Not really. I'm not sure if you were here for the Dthrow -> Jab -> Laserlock though.

 

[Teran]

Not really. I'm not sure if you were here for the Dthrow -> Jab -> Laserlock though.

Oh yeah I remember that.

Well I guess this is good and bad news in a way. Thanks.

 

[Emperor Time]

About the BPG. I can't really do it consistently after a grab. There may be that time when I do it, but usually it's a miss or a regular pivot grab. I think my problem is my dash. During the d-throw, I tap my stock foward twice. I know that's not exactly right, but it works well enough ...sometimes. Can somebody please tell me when I should do it?

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

It's mostly all about timing. Not much anyone can really help you with on that except to practice.

You could try to buffer the dash to get frame perfect execution of the dash animation as soon as the dthrow is over with, but then you have to be read to input the commands for the rest of the BPG.

 

[Emperor Time]

I did a lot better when I buffered the dash. I also found that using the shield button instead of the grab button was easier. Thanks for the help.

 

[pure_awesome]

Did anyone ever get Falco's frame data down?

I might do that on the weekend if we don't have it already.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Someone did. 3GOD did it like all the way back in september. Here's the link: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=187546

It's got a lot of the stuff pretty much done. Although people have been wanting frame data on the phantasm canceling and a few other things.

 

[King Funk]

What is Falco's best move for momentum canceling after DI?