Ask a quick question, get a quick answer (The Marth FAQ's)

[SirroMinus1]

hey pierce, I have an important question.
Back at web2zone, why did you bodied by Jin?

 

[Shaya]

can marth use Counter like, RIGHT AFTER a perfect shield? cuz CPU marth just did that to me, and i didnt even know it could happen that fast, i nearly **** myself at how fast that counter came out D:

A recently discovered advanced technique (somewhat)..

you can cancel your shield drop animation (which would normally always occur) from a power shield with tilts (+ jab) and specials.

That's what the Marth did.

 

[Yung Mei]

are you talking about the PSC?


i never would of thought that worked with counter ;~;

 

[Mr-R]

lmfao why would u PSC and then counter xD u can just counter right away haha

 

[Shaya]

lmfao why would u PSC and then counter xD u can just counter right away haha

after a power shield you still always have to have the shield drop animation (7 frames). UNLESS you do the PSC thing or use an oos option.

 

[overgamer]

What is Marth's safest aerial approch? Full hop Fair?

 

[PEACE7]

In what circumstances is it good to tech sonic's down throw?

 

[Player-3]

all of them

 

[C.J.]

Yeah, everytime it happens. If you tech it you have a +5 frame advantage which means free grab/DB.

 

[PEACE7]

So right after I tech it press grab? Because I kept teching this throw and I was the one getting regrabed lol.

 

[C.J.]

Or mash side B. If he's grabbing you, you're about 11 frames too late, assuming Sonic has a frame 6 grab.

 

[PEACE7]

Oh alright I see thanks ill try it.

 

[Chef Fox]

Hi, I'm trying to use Marth, and I'm working on the Metaknight grab release dair spike, and I'm wondering if there is a way to test if I am doing it correctly. I'm not sure if it can be shielded or dodged somehow, is there a certain animation that Metaknight goes through after the spike to show I did it correctly, as opposed to if I messed it up. Also, does the dash have to be buffered?

 

[Reizilla]

Just get someone to mash upair/air dodge on the other controller.

I believe you don't technically have to buffer it, but you might as well because it gives you 2 extra frames. But hey, I don't really know anything.

 

[Shaya]

If you do it in training mode, on stage, if MK doesn't bounce, that means you've done it on or before frame 55.
MK can't avoid it until frame 53.

So if you have that down pat, you know you're at worst 3 frames off.

 

[SirroMinus1]

hey pierce, I have an important question.
Back at web2zone, why did you bodied by Jin?

just making sure this question don't go left unanswered

 

[Shaya]

You're best private messaging him or contacting him on AIM.

This thread isn't for personal questions like that. I'll consider further things like that spam .

 

[HIKAR]

how do you ken dash

 

[PEACE7]

What's a Ken Dash?

 

[Nike.]

Yeah, everytime it happens. If you tech it you have a +5 frame advantage which means free grab/DB.

Are you certain on this? I've tried DB after tech and it's been powershielded almost everytime. It feels more like a 50/50 guessing game.

 

[PEACE7]

That's exactly how I feel Nike.

 

[Remzi]

I always just up B or grab.... never not worked before.

 

[C.J.]

Are you certain on this? I've tried DB after tech and it's been powershielded almost everytime. It feels more like a 50/50 guessing game.

That's exactly how I feel Nike.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=259275

Yes, I'm very sure.

 

[PEACE7]

Oh thanks a lot Cj this is super helpful.

 

[PEACE7]

Alright guys I have a 1 dollar mm lol against Fatal a snake he is power ranked first please do give me tips against snake any tricks or if you faced the guy any habits he has I wanna take him down .

 

[Ori_bro]

This is something that has been bugging me. What is the easiest way or safest option for Marth to get of the ledge (Especially against Snake, Metaknight and Ice Climbers)? I know drop fair through the stage is good but what do you guys feel is the best?

Alright guys I have a 1 dollar mm lol against Fatal a snake he is power ranked first please do give me tips against snake any tricks or if you faced the guy any habits he has I wanna take him down .

My advice is to space well mix it up with N-Airs and F-Airs. Grab and force him in the air and off stage.

 

[Shaya]

if you think he's gonna dash attack
up smash OOS!

 

[Blubolouis]

I've seen marth being edgeguarded with his opponent grabbing the ledge then letting go and performing an aerial while still invincible (edit: and hit him out of DS obv). (mk's invincinair I believe, same for pikachu, falco's bair...)

How reliable is this?
Would all aerials with lasting hitboxes do the trick?

 

[Shaya]

There are reliable ways to beat this. M2K taught me.

You can't afford to dolphin slash straight up as Marth's "head" will come into direct contact with any hitboxes coming out

you literally need to dolphin slash from diagonally below so that its your grab box (arm) thats closest to the ledge, not your head.

This is because (like just about all characters) the grab box is disjointed.

 

[Blubolouis]

Okay so an invincible aerial CAN beat marth's DS but if he's doing it right it won't happen '-'

too bad :D

thanks

 

[earla]

i play mk/marth.

i team with a wario/snake player.

1. is marth good in teams?
2. how can he be used effectively with wario or snake?
3. if any, what would be the advantages of me using marth instead of mk in teams?

cheers

 

[PEACE7]

i play mk/marth.

i team with a wario/snake player.

1. is marth good in teams?
2. how can he be used effectively with wario or snake?
3. if any, what would be the advantages of me using marth instead of mk in teams?

cheers

I think that in teams both of the characters you mentioned teaming with are **** but why not stay mk in teams. Mk and snake are very good you can get kills at 0% with a technique called Omnigay I believe. Snake sticks the Mk with a c4 and upthrows than the snake blows up the c4 killing your opponent but not you if you time it right if you don't time it right both of you will die or just you so the timing is critical. You might know of this if you do I apologize if you don't there you go.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

I think that in teams both of the characters you mentioned teaming with are **** but why not stay mk in teams. Mk and snake are very good you can get kills at 0% with a technique called Omnigay I believe. Snake sticks the Mk with a c4 and upthrows than the snake blows up the c4 killing your opponent but not you if you time it right if you don't time it right both of you will die or just you so the timing is critical. You might know of this if you do I apologize if you don't there you go.

actually the omnigay only kills one of them and it is based on whether or not the metaknight who is grabbing the opponent has the lower port number.

also marth can be really good with wario since they both dominate the sky and ground and marth with either one wario's tires is just 2 good with the whole bounce the tire>catch it with ff fair. also you can bounce the tire> catch it using ff first hit nair>:
1) repeating the above process if you don't hit them as it is hard to punish
2) ff uair into get hit by tire again (if they mess up on the DI)> a bunch of stuff. if you use marth you should know wat follows up as ff uair is something all marth's use (or at least i hope so) and since they get hit by the tire you can even go for some of the riskier follow ups as the tire makes it not so risky.
3) glide toss and slide behind them> pivot smash, DB, whatever.

with snake on your team while you can't do the omnigay you and snake are still a very deadly team. if you go with snake covering ground combat with his nades and tilts and marth covering air combat you have a very solid team that can overcome just about any other team. and if marth has port 4 when the opponent(s) is/are at high percents snake can stick marth who can grab an opponent and then have snake blow them up or if it stickies them after they get grabbed marth can do u-throw and then snake can kill them that way to.

 

[MARLX]

How do you break out of kirby's grab combo?

 

[PEACE7]

How do you break out of kirby's grab combo?

UpB out of it but don't do it a lot because the Kirby will be expecting it after about the 2nd time you do it and he could just wait or bait your upB just mix it up and do it only when you think you'll need it .

 

[MARLX]

What move and strategy should I use on falco, fox, and possiblely zss??

 

[Reizilla]

Pick Falco.

 

[Shaya]

What move and strategy should I use on falco, fox, and possiblely zss??

Smart walking and power shielding works a bunch against Falco and Fox.
Grabs work a crapton against them as well.

You didn't exactly ask a quick question here... you pretty much just asked us how to play three match ups with Marth.... it's a lot of information...

 

[MARLX]

What move should use to get out of any grab and what DI??

 

[SeekHeart]

usually UpB to get outta things, and DI is directional influence where you move the stick perpendicular to where you are sent to live longer.