stealth3654
Smash Lord
DDD's pivot grab has retardedly good range (same with Snake).
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Here's a sample:
Jab->Short:
A fast safe poke that links to kill moves at higher percents
Definitely one of my favorite moves with sheik. At frame two it's crazy fast it always combo's into the second hit which I call a "short". It's a great way to interrupt a lot of would be combos and attempted grab set ups and stuff.
It's range can make it a good too for shield pressure against a lot of the cast even from the front if you space it correctly. you can use it to bait shield grabs. against horrible characters like Yoshi you don't even have to worry about being shield grabbed at all.
if you throw out one jab spaced well most characters can't do anything to punish it. From behind, well can you say ****? I haven't met a character yet that can punish you for spamming a jab short chain on their shield from behind most have to roll away or something since spot dodging will be punished with a grab or a jab or a tilt or something. if you are feeling lucky you can go for a grab after the jab short from behind.
Once you start getting to higher percents jab short will combo into: 140ish it combos into itself true, 180ish dsmash true, 190ish nair and tilts true. Knowing all of these options is important because DI really effects what you can connect with. You can connect with these combos earlier but that's if your opponent isn't DIing down and shielding or doesn't have some crazy fast aerials. with practice you should be able to judge what you need to do to connect an attack if you can connect one at all. jab->short chains into buffered running nair is too sexy and is very hard to evade once you get past 140.
While not true at low percent you can get grabs pretty safely since most characters don't have options fast enough to get past the grab armor. Characters that do a 1 frame and 2 frame jab/aerial characters and frame 1 invul characters and frame two save my life attacks like snakes nades and charizard's rock smash; characters like these you can mix in shields for shield grabs when you expect an attack.
Used as an out of shield option instead of grabs, jab is great. it has really good range. you can buffer a turn around for enemies attacking from behind. and it can set up few true kill combos better than grab ever could. The con is it takes almost twice as long assuming you didn't Psheild.
Jab->Short:
A fast safe poke that links to kill moves at higher percents
Definitely one of my favorite moves with sheik. At frame two it's crazy fast it always combo's into the second hit which I call a "short". It's a great way to interrupt a lot of would be combos and attempted grab set ups and stuff.
It's range can make it a good too for shield pressure against a lot of the cast even from the front if you space it correctly. you can use it to bait shield grabs. against horrible characters like Yoshi you don't even have to worry about being shield grabbed at all.
if you throw out one jab spaced well most characters can't do anything to punish it. From behind, well can you say ****? I haven't met a character yet that can punish you for spamming a jab short chain on their shield from behind most have to roll away or something since spot dodging will be punished with a grab or a jab or a tilt or something. if you are feeling lucky you can go for a grab after the jab short from behind.Once you start getting to higher percents jab short will combo into: 140ish it combos into itself true, 180ish dsmash true, 190ish nair and tilts true. Knowing all of these options is important because DI really effects what you can connect with. You can connect with these combos earlier but that's if your opponent isn't DIing down and shielding or doesn't have some crazy fast aerials. with practice you should be able to judge what you need to do to connect an attack if you can connect one at all. jab->short chains into buffered running nair is too sexy and is very hard to evade once you get past 140.
While not true at low percent you can get grabs pretty safely since most characters don't have options fast enough to get past the grab armor. Characters that do a 1 frame and 2 frame jab/aerial characters and frame 1 invul characters and frame two save my life attacks like snakes nades and charizard's rock smash; characters like these you can mix in shields for shield grabs when you expect an attack.
Used as an out of shield option instead of grabs, jab is great. it has really good range. you can buffer a turn around for enemies attacking from behind. and it can set up few true kill combos better than grab ever could. The con is it takes almost twice as long assuming you didn't Psheild.
utilt can combo into grab at like 10-15 ish?
fair starts to combo into jab at like 15. fair has decent hit stun.
chain is stupid.
EDIT:
Oh. My. Goodness. Watch light's sheik. so good~
fair starts to combo into jab at like 15. fair has decent hit stun.
chain is stupid.
EDIT:
Oh. My. Goodness. Watch light's sheik. so good~
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
It is weight dependent.
Last time I checked I was u-tilting> grab on a Yoshi main the escapes my f-tilt lock.
0 - 30 is usually the cap. That is... if you don't decay. Then you can get really absurd with your combo's.
Last time I checked I was u-tilting> grab on a Yoshi main the escapes my f-tilt lock.
0 - 30 is usually the cap. That is... if you don't decay. Then you can get really absurd with your combo's.
Judo777
Smash Master
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yea i knew it combos at like 15 percent but we cant kill wario at 15 percent. fair definitely shouldnt combo over like 60 or so. The only possible thing i can see is ftilt but im still not sure if even that combos. And the pivot grab lock is stupid because it takes a **** year to rack up any amount of dmg and if u screw up once not only does he get out but you also just charged his waft.
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
If you repeat the action a lot you get DECAY. Ever seen the Swan Combo? Fair shouldn't be hitting them that little bit of a distance, but it is.
/rollseyes
Its way easier to try something out than to debate on paoer. if it doesn't work for you don't use it.
Its way easier to try something out than to debate on paoer. if it doesn't work for you don't use it.
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
*still enough
iLight
Smash Lord
#HBC | Scary
Hype Incarnate
Ignore this post, bad computer
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Hype Incarnate
Yea, the DDD matchup is awful. Hbox and Seibrik destroy both my Zelda and Sheik. I get so annoyed with that character.
As far as FL never being your state James, of course it's yours. It certainly isn't mine by any stretch, You can't say your not a great Sheik because you are most definitely a great Sheik. Redhalberd does that to many a person. He's a bad man. You certainly can't judge yourself off one experience with him.
I still hate DDD.
As far as FL never being your state James, of course it's yours. It certainly isn't mine by any stretch, You can't say your not a great Sheik because you are most definitely a great Sheik. Redhalberd does that to many a person. He's a bad man. You certainly can't judge yourself off one experience with him.
I still hate DDD.
iLight
Smash Lord
I love fighting D3, if your good at shield dash's to p-sheild their bairs and f-tilts you can do a lot in this match up through camping and patience and looking for patterns. I tend to grab A LOT in this match up
No I mean I'm from CT. but I started competive emash down here.
Leafplayer452
Smash Journeyman
Im from MD...where
DC Chillin
PG chillin
HC billin
DC Chillin
PG chillin
HC billin
#HBC | Scary
Hype Incarnate
wait what?
You will forever hate me HRNUT. I also beat him in a friendly with Falco...
Leafplayer452
Smash Journeyman
MLG should pick up SSBB, if they do in 2010 ill love them and go to (if they do it) MLG DC
If they dont put brawl on their 2010 circuit, ima be pissed and start to troll their boards
If they dont put brawl on their 2010 circuit, ima be pissed and start to troll their boards
iLight
Smash Lord
they did pick up SSBB we will be sponsored by them in 2010
choknater
Smash Obsessed
weee melee tourny tomorrow
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
How will that work?
Will they like give large sums of money for tourney use or what?
*use IC's
Do you use IC's in SSBB?
I'm pretty excited you got rid of that wolverine ava and sig.
KenniSpam!
Smash Master
i need top 10 brawl sheik players in USA for an aib project. anyone help??
stealth3654
Smash Lord
I really think there are only about 10 Sheik players that post on the Sheik boards to begin with. XD
#HBC | Scary
Hype Incarnate
Are we really only about 10 strong? They gotta all be hiding in the shadows. Come out you guys!
whats a "sheik" never heard of it.
#HBC | Scary
Hype Incarnate
Sheik: A figment of imagination, until it's too late
MissionxStar
Smash Rookie
While Shiek is a secondar of mine. (I just started using her) I must say that she is great fun. I'm still trying to work on that vanish glide, but everything else I can just about do.
iLight
Smash Lord
@saviors i assume it will work the same way as it did for melee tournaments at mlg
Toon links are wimps.
iLight
Smash Lord
they're just cocky =]
clowsui
Smash Legend
light there's no announcement at all though o_O
the closed the match up discussion thread for flaming? are you kidding me?
iLight
Smash Lord
people were told this at some MLG event they recently held in dallas, i'm not sure of the specifics of it, I just know that it happened
No.
10shrouds
edit: MLG for brawl?! Ok maybe I'll stick around then. Wtf took so long anyway? Any chance melee will be MLG too?
On another note, youtube needs more vids of Light's current sheik. Anyone agree?
I agree. You can learn a lot from him. he needs to dacus less though. same with ed.
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
Maybe
I just want to see his punishing idea's.