M
+9999999999
In "fairness", just take the 7 starter list and let the players decide ffs.
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ACL brawl ruleset disscussion
- Thread starter Leisha
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Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Definitely agree with M, there is no point arguing about this.
If choosing FD or Lylat is such an issue, use a 7 stage starter list.
If choosing CS or Frigate is such an issue, use a 9 stage starter list.
etc...
If choosing FD or Lylat is such an issue, use a 7 stage starter list.
If choosing CS or Frigate is such an issue, use a 9 stage starter list.
etc...
silly.
people will just start using more mk.
silly.
that's something i didn't know. all the more reason for the stage to be banned.
this might not be such a bad idea.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Right...
Wasn't it legal at TPoO?
How many Dededes made it into the top 8?
What about MKs?
swordsaint
Smash Master
there are platforms in CS which stop zss doing that to mk.
i was pretty sure andrew was talking about the dash attack lock.
i was pretty sure andrew was talking about the dash attack lock.
M
+9999999999
Just pointing out, this argument is relatively silly. Australia's, tiny, we only have a couple of dedede mains across the entire continent, and I'm sure there are less than 8 people maining each character. lol
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
That doesn't invalidate the argument at all.
I was just saying that if it was broken IN AUSTRALIA (because that is what we are making a rule-set for), then the results would reflect that.
I was just saying that if it was broken IN AUSTRALIA (because that is what we are making a rule-set for), then the results would reflect that.
dean.
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Alright I think this debate is turning silly as well and I'm stupid (although my egotism likes being called wise and being respected ^_^), so I'd like to pose the question as I haven't experienced a starter list of more than five before: is a striking system of 1-2-2-1 better than 1-3-2? I legitametely don't know.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Hmm... let's see...
No idea.
No idea.
M
+9999999999
Well, I don't think either player benefits from each method, as the striking system can typically be a battle of wit to begin with.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Yeah, it really doesn't matter that much.
swordsaint
Smash Master
cause snake never needs to grab the edge at low percent gimp attempts...
silly adelaide.
silly adelaide.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Fixed that for you.
EDIT: Actually, just remembered Jamage and Eagle's ranting on his montage thread, ignore this.
I personally value Grims smash theory/ruleset opinion far higher than Attilas.
If I wanted to get better at SIMPLY PLAYING THE GAME LIKE A NORMAL PERSON, I'd probs talk to Attila though.
But seriously, A', dude stay out of the theory discussion and just win bro...
please <3
If I wanted to get better at SIMPLY PLAYING THE GAME LIKE A NORMAL PERSON, I'd probs talk to Attila though.
But seriously, A', dude stay out of the theory discussion and just win bro...
please <3
that makes me sad.
also, i have no time to play during uni; i really shouldn't win
unless i pull out my pocket mk...
also, i have no time to play during uni; i really shouldn't win
unless i pull out my pocket mk...
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Seemed more like a compliment to Atilla than a condescending remark, who the **** cares about Theorysmash?
Haha sorry A', Grims actually pretty smart sometimes when he isnt trying to get wobbling legal.
And perhaps unfortunately for you, most discussions i remember that i've had on these forums with you are the ones where you say something like "you can SDI MKs tornado at like any time"
Or something.
Either way. Theorycrafting is actually for scrubs.
Lets prac up you live so close
N2C this week even?
And perhaps unfortunately for you, most discussions i remember that i've had on these forums with you are the ones where you say something like "you can SDI MKs tornado at like any time"
Or something.
Either way. Theorycrafting is actually for scrubs.
Lets prac up you live so close
N2C this week even?
swordsaint
Smash Master
you can DI mks tornado at any time, why do you think i get out of it all the god damn time, ask any mk i play. I fall out or jump out of tornado 90% of the time.
i know that everyones always like 'oh you cant do it look at this video' but i remain unconvinced when i always get out.
luke_atyeo
Smash Hero
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in comes luke with some much uneeded negativity
you better be sorry, thats the worst thing I have ever heard you say, and I had such high hopes.
its raining outside...
those are my tears.
this thread is lols, you guys are lols, and none of this is going to make a bit of difference.
the balls are inert.
what the **** splice, sorry?
you better be sorry, thats the worst thing I have ever heard you say, and I had such high hopes.
its raining outside...
those are my tears.
apparently you, with your **** stage discussions, this thread, your thread you made about terrible levels etc etc
this thread is lols, you guys are lols, and none of this is going to make a bit of difference.
the balls are inert.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Ah, that was the point Luke. I saw saying that what I care about hardly matters, and that Atilla's skill at actually playing the game is far more important.
You can Sdi mk nado. Just btw.
And yeah, players always go dusrespectin'. Splice just has a little bit of thriller syndrome, although I thought that was eradicated at robocop last year...
And yeah, players always go dusrespectin'. Splice just has a little bit of thriller syndrome, although I thought that was eradicated at robocop last year...
luke_atyeo
Smash Hero
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kids just try to grow up too fast and dont understand the concepts of wisdom and experiance.
Remastered
Smash Lord
Agreed with SDI'ing MK's nado. It definitely can be done.
Leisha
Top Tier Pillow
Not if you're ROB, lol. Or any fat character.
Good luck trying xD
Good luck trying xD
anyone can do it, its just a hell of a lot harder.
i get out way more with ics/falco than i do with snake. poor heavies
i get out way more with ics/falco than i do with snake. poor heavies
luke_atyeo
Smash Hero
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yeah but snakes great because they are tornadoing you and then all of a sudden they die.
I love that backair.
I love that backair.
Remastered
Smash Lord
MK nado lols at D3, it's so sad. Still a ridiculous move regardless of whether you can get out of it or not.
Atleast rob has a big **** off beam that goes through it
Atleast rob has a big **** off beam that goes through it
Leisha
Top Tier Pillow
The laser has lots of startup lag though, the mk would have to be stupid to attempt tornadoing from a far distance agasint rob. All you need to do is nado him in the face and rob's ****ed.
lulullul oh how bad this game is.
Anyway, ill confirm the ruleset by next monday.
lulullul oh how bad this game is.
Anyway, ill confirm the ruleset by next monday.
Only the first and last hit....
The rest have no hitlag or like 1 frame of hitlag, so you can't SDI at all.
swordsaint
Smash Master
then why do i get out of nado 90% of the time?
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Yeah, it's probably weight/falling speed related. My Jigglypuff gets out of Nado all the time, and I've never played a DK who can get out of it 
It is, though mostly weight related as characters with high falling speeds receive more vertical knockback so it basically cancels out.Yeah, it's probably weight/falling speed related. My Jigglypuff gets out of Nado all the time, and I've never played a DK who can get out of it
If you want proof you can't SDI it (outside of it having no frames where you can SDI >.>) then watch any of Mr. Doom's recent matches against MK.
If he can't SDI out nobody can.
falco is a fast faller, he isn't classified as light as such.
he can airdodge through it pretty consistently too. or at least, i can.
he can airdodge through it pretty consistently too. or at least, i can.
Leisha
Top Tier Pillow
Falco is barely heavier than MK and Pikachu, and is the same weight as Olimar.
He's definitely light.
What relevance does his fall speed have to his weight?