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[22 JAN] Comprehensive Guide to AT's, Discoveries and Glitches (Posting Rules in OP)

Bwa

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I discovered an AT, I don't know if I'm the first to discover it, I think I'm not.

It's dash grab canceled.

MK slides a lot with his dash grab, and you can cancel the animation to do a pivot grab.

It looks like falco's dash attackl canceled pivot grab (I forgot the true name).

Sorry if anyone discovered it before me ^^'
 

TheMeant

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1) Take an item while pressing A (so that you can fsmash while holding the item)
2) Spam C-stick by tapping it to north-east repeteadly (HAHA)
3) WATCH YOUR CHARACTER DANCING

This bbq AT is so cool you'll pwn any spamming MK with it, man.

(is this new?)
 

Arzengel

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hey Vyse, excellent thread man!
Thanks for the info, extremley useful, on a side-note, on the character AT lists, You wrote Yoshi twice above and then below, when the second Yoshi should say "Zelda" instead.

EDIT:

I'd also like to state, that you've missed the Angelic Step on Pit's AT. Though i heard some other characters can do it, not sure about this though.
 

Fox Is Openly Deceptive

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Hey Vyse. Please check out this link (different from the last one). It is a complete list (for now) of Toon Link's AT's and Tricks. It is also formatted in a similar way that this AT thread is. There are far too many to write down here so you'll just have to check it out yourself.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=228712
Toon has tones of AT's (much more than two) I feel he isn't being represented in this thread. Let me know what you think.
 

Malart

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i dont know if this is already been said, But with fox's illusion cancel, there are two different variations that i can see. Regular f-b, he travels almost exactly half the length of FD. Cancel one, he travels a quarter the length of FD and it looks just like a shortened illusion. Cancel two, he travels probably half the length of the previous cancel, maybe less, and it looks like a true cancel. He also doesnt even make the little ringing sound on the true cancel. You guys probably know all this, but the guide could use a bit more info on that particular AT


(Edit)
In fact falco does as well
 

B!squick

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Bowser has something new for once *dismay!*. Right now we're working out a name for it.

- SideB Cancel Through Platforms
How to perform: Use SideB before landing on a platform and simply tap down to fall through. Doing this cancels the SideB, lets Bowser regain his second jump, as well as allows Bowser to perform any aerial or special from the cancelled SideB.
OP: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=229427
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2vltpvHKgc
 

Vyse

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Thanks for conforming to the posting rules JayDeth :)

When I'm not so snowed under with work I'll get to this.
 

Fox Is Openly Deceptive

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@Vyse: Does this mean you didn't even check the link? Well I'm sorry I didn't want to write out the 53 AT's (this is just a start btw) When you could have just clicked the link and found them all set out exactly the same way that you want. If you won't even check it then I give up. Why should I care if the main AT thread doesn't know what Toon is capable of.
 

Vyse

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@Vyse: Does this mean you didn't even check the link? Well I'm sorry I didn't want to write out the 53 AT's (this is just a start btw) When you could have just clicked the link and found them all set out exactly the same way that you want. If you won't even check it then I give up. Why should I care if the main AT thread doesn't know what Toon is capable of.
Sorry, I didn't mean that by my post before.

I'm going to check yours too, but with a wall of AT's I find it's more effective to simply link it for people to read. This is mostly because TL mains would know better than myself about their character. (I've done this for Mario as well).
 

Shaya

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Does anyone know the actual 'proofs' of how boost smashing/dacus works?

I haven't been able to replicate it (a boost smash) in debug mode, and I'm wondering if anyone else has.
 

Corrupted

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Shouden't item grabbing with Z in the air and dashing -> release -> Z to pick up items on the ground be on the list.
 

TKD+ITA+Mar=

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I am sorry I didn't use the right format the first time.

*Feels like a failure.*

Eg:
- Dtilting with a grab button (Ztilting)
How to Perform: Hold down and press a grab button and you will do a dtilt. However, you must wait for the animation to be completed fully in order to do it again.
OP: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=181225
Video: None


-- Still Useless --
 

Bellioes

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Heres a technique that was discovered in the Marth boards but if you read the whole 3-4 pgs, I posted data for the whole cast. It works for like 90% of the characters. I believe the datas on page 2 and 3. Anyways, here it is:

Retreating Pivot Grab
How to perform: Press while facing right: right>left>right+grab very quickly
Description: You slide to the left while grabbing to the right (slide varies from char to char)
OP: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=231916
 

B!squick

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I am sorry I didn't use the right format the first time.

*Feels like a failure.*

Eg:
- Dtilting with a grab button (Ztilting)
How to Perform: Hold down and press a grab button and you will do a dtilt. However, you must wait for the animation to be completed fully in order to do it again.
OP: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=181225
Video: None


-- Still Useless --
"A" can be substituted with "Z" for MANY things. Is there any benefit to doing with Z instead?
 

Ingulit

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- Glide Drop
How to Perform: While holding an item that can be Z-Dropped on the ground*, initiate a roll and press Z (or Grab; note that it must be a Grab button) a few frames after the roll has started (time it slightly after you would a Glide Toss). Your character will slide the length of its Forward Glide Toss and will Z-Drop the item.
*Cracker Launcher, Fire Flower, Ray Gun, Super Scope, Beam Sword, Fan, Home-Run Bat, Lip's Stick, Star Rod
OP: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=229508
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqImRJUXxAw

- Weak Glide Toss
How to Perform: While holding an item that cannot be Z-Dropped (or, can be Z-Thrown) on the ground*, initiate a roll and press Z (Grab) or A (Attack) a few frames after the roll has started (time it slightly after you would a Glide Toss). Your character will slide the length of its Forward Glide Toss while throwing the item the length of its standing throw.
*Capsule, Pokeball, Banana Peel, Gyro, Zero Suit Samus's Armor Piece, Turnip, Bumper, Gooey Bomb, Deku Nut, Mr. Saturn, Freezie, Green Shell, Hothead, Pitfall, Motion-Sensor Bomb, Smart Bomb, Smoke Ball, Spring, Team Healer, Unira
OP: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=229508
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVezocdi2uI
 

demonictoonlink

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Everybody knows about things like sliding jab, sliding tilts, and sliding smashes, right? Running, pivoting, and executing a move resulting in sliding...Did everybody know that you can reverse all of these moves?
I'm talking about sliding backwards while performing any A move. Known?
 

Saltix

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Everybody knows about things like sliding jab, sliding tilts, and sliding smashes, right? Running, pivoting, and executing a move resulting in sliding...Did everybody know that you can reverse all of these moves?
I'm talking about sliding backwards while performing any A move. Known?
Is there a video for this?
 

Dragon20942

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T_T **** You for closing my thread............................................................lol jk.
 

Nidtendofreak

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I mentioned this a LONG time ago, but I think it got missed.

Ike and Marth can both do something callled "Counterdiving"

Basically on Dephino and Pirate Ship, Ike/Marth can SH Counter while in the water and end up diving under the water to avoid attacks. Ike goes the farthest, nearly to the bottom of PS's water IIRC. Marth goes about half that distance.

Technically, Lucario can do this as well, but he barely bobs below the water line. Peach can't as her counter move propels her upwards when she SHs.

It's useful for avoiding things like Sonic's spring gimp attempts, or Link/Toon Link's bombs. Or in Pirate Ship's case, for avoiding the cannonball.
 
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