Enough with "how can we make platform fighters more popular", more "how can we make platform fighters more fun".
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it has almost been a decade. where is it
i find it funny how in caddicarus' old bubsy 3d review, to give context of ceotfk he shows tas footage as if its normal gameplay and accidentally makes it look like the most sick game ever made.
I don't know if this is post-3D All-Stars negativity speaking, but between Peach Showtime's devs and Mario's VA in Wonder, the "you'll find out in the credits" thing Nintendo has been doing lately is really starting to raise eyebrows for me
I've been watching Kingdom Hearts world speculation videos lately, and it's weird to me (even if not necessarily unexplainable) that KH speculation seems to be more civil than Smash speculation (unless I've only been lucky enough to encounter the right channels) - like, surely a KH world is a WAY bigger deal, near-infintely so, than a Smash character, right? There's less worlds in a KH game than a Smash game; KH worlds have entire mandatory plots with multiple speaking characters that often serve as outright sequels; and going back to old worlds is the exception and not the norm - Smash characters, on the other hand, rarely get removed from instalment to instalment; are ultimately little more than just a cameo of a single character you can choose not to control; and are part of a huge pantheon that keeps on growing. Obviously this is the result of the way Nintendo markets and distributes Smash characters (CGI trailers, Amiibos, mystery passes) actively promoting toxicity and grandstanding (intentionally or otherwise) and not just a case of KH fans all being good noodles, but there's still a cruel irony to it. KH fans seem to keep their cool when talking about nutjob ideas like live action remakes or The Simpsons, Smash fans will create a warzone if you suggest an idea as inoffensive as Lara Croft or Angry Birds.
i do not know why youtube recommended this unauthorised teddy ruxpin tape made by ted turner as cable tv propaganda to me.
i'm playing walmart world on roblox and all the wheels for the trolleys are plagarised from crash team racing lmao
i hate that i know the context of this
I made this a long while back and forgot to post it.
Does not account for taunts, victory animations, and the simple "this move now deals less damage" stuff you'd see in balance patches. Made within the context of a casual game.
Mario:
-Happier disposition
-Cape is swapped for tanooki tail. Functionally the same
-Mario Tornado has been restored, now with Cappy floating around as a disjoint. Mario himself is a sweetspot however, so Cappy functions as a damageless get-away tool like FLUDD
-Dash attack is the SM64 tackle
Donkey Kong:
-Happier disposition
-Classic Voice
-Headbutt involves DK slamming a barrel. Functionally the same.
-Down Smash and Down B’s animations are swapped - the new Down Smash can still be held as it could be as a special when less than half charged. Down B shares a charging resource with Giant Punch.
-Konga Beat is back
Link
-Skyward Sword/MK8 design.
-Classic bomb and hook shot restored
-Jab laser removed.
-New Final Smash: Heroes Across Time - TP, BOTW, and OOT Link assist as spirits.
Samus
-Some moves have ice properties. Purely cosmetic
-ZSS stance change restored to Final Smash.
Dark Samus
-Smash Attacks are now disjoints, with the assist trophy attack being used as a D-Smash.
-Laser homes and missile goes straight forwards
Yoshi
-Horse-like posture restored
-New Final Smash: Super Happy Tree - Yoshi eats fruit from the Super Happy Tree and his health is changed to -200%
Kirby
-Slide kick down tilt
-Air movement is closer to Jigglypuff
-Chef Kirby restored as Final Smash
-Some copy moves are side, up, or down specials
-Can get a random copy with an uninterrupted taunt
-Some copies aesthetically redesigned, such as Peach having a wig
Fox
-Shine restored to Melee functionality
-Landmaster restored as Final Smash
Pikachu
-Unmodified
Luigi
-Negative Zone restored
-Poltergust removed from grabs
-RNG powerful variants added to Luigi Tornado and Fireball - Fireball’s RNG variant summons a ghost who drags anyone in its path, while Tornado’s goes to the maximum height automatically
Ness
-PK Fire now has a use meter. Like wonderwing, it cannot be recharged unless you’re KO’d.
-New Final Smash: PSI Rockin’. Similar to Shadow Mario Paint. Jeff is involved.
-Smash 64 kick nair restored
Captain Falcon
-Unmodified
Jigglypuff
-Unmodified
Peach
-Peach Bomber rethemed to P-Wing
-Forward tilt is Peach creating magic sparkles with her hand, a la Fantasia Mickey
-Back air no longer has heart effect
-Toad replaced with Toadette for default costume, all other costumes have different-coloured male Toads.
Daisy
-All changes to Peach apply to Daisy
-Toad replaced with Gao, who breathes fire.
-Turnip replaced with carrot
Bowser
-Goofier disposition
-Proper voice
-Melee run animation implemented as dodge animation
-Goes into shell for crouch.
-Down B and down air animations swapped, Down B turns Bowser blue to reference the Blue Shell and ends with a cosmetic explosion.
-New Final Smash: Fury Bowser. Functionally the same as Brawl Giga Bowser
Ice Climbers
-Nana now purely copies Popo’s actions instead of being a unique CPU that follows.
Sheik
-OOT Design
Zelda
-TP Design and associated personality (Ultimate FS kept)
Dr. Mario
-Represents Dr. Mario as a series instead of Mario.
-No changes made to Mario apply to Dr.
-Angst and anger increased slightly
Pichu
-New Final Smash: My Pokemon Ranch - sends a foe into My Pokemon Ranch, where they are greeted by many playful Pichus, who accidentally zap them. Each character gets a Pokemon Ranch model
-Sleeping crouch restored
Falco
-Restored to Melee iteration completely
-Arwing is still FS, but controllable instead of cutscene
Marth
-Unchanged
Lucina
-Has tipper, now a full Marth clone.
Young Link
-Unchanged
Ganondorf:
-Has float
Mewtwo:
-Unchanged
Roy
-Unchanged
Chrom
-Unchanged
Mr. Game & Watch
-Down throw is based on Mario’s Cement Factory, with G&W turning a foe into cement; forward throw is Donkey Kong Hockey with G&W turning into DK; up throw is based on Egg, with the wolf throwing a foe up and down using his basket; back throw is unchanged.
-Changes forms for all moves, even Mario character moves
-New jab: turning into Link from Zelda and slashing
-Stanley is now F-Smash
Meta Knight
-Unchanged
Pit
-Unchanged
Dark Pit
-Unchanged
Zero Suit Samus
-Down throw sped up.
-Stance swap implemented in Final Smash
Wario
-Wario-Man FS from Brawl restored
-Down throw is a shoulder drop
-Animation has more gross-out
-Down Smash has Wario propelled by his farts
-Down air is a ground pound stall and fall, with a fart.
-Forward Smash and down tilt have Wario pick a visibly-rendered booger before doing so.
-Fart meter is signified by a visible fog coming out of Wario’s butt
-Wario burps when releasing foes from chomp
Snake
-Brawl FS restored
Ike
-Unchanged
Pokemon Trainer
-Pokemon doesn’t swap when KO’d
-Charizard Rock Smash implemented as side smash
-Can press back + down B to swap to the other Pokemon
-New Final Smash, now features a random selection from 6 of the original 151 Pokemon alongside the trainer 3. All original 151, including Jigglypuff and Pikachu, are featured. Also uses GB text instead of 3DS
Diddy Kong
-Canon voice
Lucas
-Duster added to Final Smash
Sonic
-Complete moveset revamp
-Uses classic design with Greg Martin mohawk.
King Dedede
-Brawl Final Smash restored
-Waddle Dee Toss restored
Olimar
-Has a voice
Lucario
-Takes small recoil damage in some moves.
ROB
-Stack-Up directional voice clips used for throws
-Hector in background like Pokemon Trainer
Toon Link
-Unchanged
Wolf
-Has landmaster
Villager
-Unchanged
Mega Man
-Completely reworked
Wii Fit Trainer
-Unchanged
Rosalina & Luma
-Luma colour is based on alt
Little Mac
-Significantly better air fighter
Greninja
-Unchanged
Miis
-Unchanged
Palutena
-Heavenly Light implemented as Up Smash, still deals no knockback.
Pac-Man
-Butt-Bash down air, using the pizza transformation
-Down Smash summons Pooka & Fygar, Up Smash summons Gyaraga, and side smash summons Mappy.
-Turns into US cabinet art design for Up B
Robin
-Meter removed completely
Shulk
-Future Connected design by default
Bowser Jr.
-Unchanged
Duck Hunt
-Mr. Stevenson and Tin Star added as extra rare Wild Gunman, both most and equally powerful.
-Can becomes weaker with every shot.
Ryu
-Input commands removed
-1v1 directional removed
Ken
-Input commands removed
-1v1 directional removed
Cloud
-Limit can only charge from Down B
Corrin
-Unchanged
Bayonetta
-Unchanged
Inkling
-Unchanged
Ridley
-Bigger
Simon
-Completely reworked
Richter
-Clone of the new Simon
King K. Rool
-Unchanged
Isabelle
-Unchanged
Incineroar
-Unchanged
Piranha Plant
-Unchanged
Joker
-Arsene charges from attacking instead of being attacked, teammate charge is still comeback based.
Hero
-Command Selection replaced with Snooze
-Erdrick is default
-Critical Hits reworked: instead of RNG, they appear only on Smash Attacks if performed out of a long combo.
Banjo & Kazooie:
-Given Nuts & Bolts design as default to better represent Xbox
-Uses the Mumbo Wrench in forward tilt.
-Throws are all Mumbo Wrench based. No tether grab however.
-New Final Smash: Bolt Bucket. Nuts & Bolts inspired, with a car ramming into foes.
Terry
-Command inputs removed
-1v1 directional removed
Byleth
-Unchanged
Min Min
-Completely reworked
Steve
-Completely reworked
Sephiroth
-Unchanged
Pyra/Mythra
-Has a brand new Smash-specific design, similar to Pit.
Kazuya
-Completely reworked
Sora
-Unchanged
I've been watching Gaming in the Clinton Years lately, and now I think about it, a lot of the common criticisms of non-Smash platform fighters are a tiny bit... George Woodian. You tend to see the sentiment of "The gameplay's better than Smash, but that doesn't matter because the roster is all OCs/there's no story mode/there's no items/character X is missing/e.t.c." a lot, which feels very GITCY
if clay is a stone does that mean wallace is a crystal gem
pickle rick vs circus afro: duel of the forced corporate meme
"They should make the next Sonic/Smash/Kingdom Hearts/whatever T-rated!"
I'm looking at all the Palworld character designs, and I feel like half of them are genuinely kinda cool or cute - I really like the dopey Xatu clone, moss mammothm, and edgy Bellossum - but the other half hits a really weirdly specific uncanny valley I cannot put my finger on.
The ending of Designing For's Waluigi video was kinda ****ed up, even if most likely not an intentional way. I think the notion was "what was hated becomes beloved with time as people with different perspectives are able to speak, isn't that great!", a good message, but in execution it came off more as "We did it Reddit, we bullied the Waluigi haters into hiding!". No matter how much I love Waluigi, the erasure of old internet articles expressing disdain for Waluigi is not a good thing.
So, Elon Musk thinks AI is going to be "woke", but also thinks AI will be "smarter than all humans combined"?
Self-owned I guess.
So, even Clippy Deniers can agree that Duolingo is a video game, right?
why does mega man 6 have two racist bosses
With this recent talk of indie vs. corporate, I honestly fail to see any reason to work with a corporation on a creative product beyond just the IP catalog (whether that being using it or getting inducted into it). Like, at most you get more marketing, but most corporations pay on commission instead of royalties so you're not particularly impacted by the marketing one way or the other. Otherwise, you don't keep the IP, you can't talk about your time at work in depth, you're beholden to strict schedules, and don't even get me started on those focus groups. Even the upside of having someone else handle budget is negated when corporations don't like working with people who don't have established portfolios. I dunno, maybe someone with better corporate know-how can well-actually me on this.
A Kingdom Hearts game directed by me, someone who knows nothing about Kingdom Hearts and only cares about the Disney characters.
Disney Worlds: (in gameplay progression order)
- Polynesia (Moana)
- Nottingham (Robin Hood)
- Toy Box (Toy Story 3)
- WDP Circus (Dumbo)
- London (The Great Mouse Detective)
- Kuzco's Empire (The Emperor's New Groove)
- The Axiom (Wall-E)
- The Great Before (Soul)
- A Galaxy Far Away (Star Wars)
- The Muppet Show (Mini-game world, could go anywhere in the game order)
- A Dragon Quest world
- Stitch
- Ariel
- Simba
- The Emotions
- Lightning McQueen
- Mei
- Cloud
- Figment
- Phantom Blot
- Max Goof
- Della Duck
- Oswald & Ortensia
- Phineas & Ferb
Insane how the message of Sakurai's competition video was "having competition is good and will make your game better" and the takeaway the comments of it are getting is "smash clones will never be good and should stop trying".
I'm going to try and play (and maybe complete) every Virtual Boy game at some point - I just want to acquire some 3D glasses first - and the fact the first game on the lineup alphabetically is called "3D Tetris" is somewhat anxiety inducing. Tetris-gimmick-variants are always either the best or worst thing ever, there is no inbetween.
The Nintendo Monopoly variant is 1. very clearly meant to mess with Google results about the 1980s, 2. based around the very bizarre conciet of buying Nintendo characters (I really hope that means their sports contracts), 3. places Wario and Waluigi as having the lowest price, which is complete slander, and 4. stretched so hard to give Metroid equal representation to the other franchises that they made Samus' morph ball form a seperate character.
The weird number formatting is a holdover from an earlier version that only mentioned those first 2 points.
I rarely if ever make Smash suggestions as jokes, everything I vouch for, even if it's a fundamentally comedic idea like the Sega logo or something, there's always some underlying logic or cool factor... that being said, if I was put in charge of a Real Actual Smash game, I would pull a "grimdark Epic Mickey" and just make a fake roster filled with the most stupid Nintendo references that would never ever work no matter how creative you are just to test what Nintendo allows - Who's ready to fight as "Zelda key piece from Nintendo Cereal System" or "Torn out page from Nintendo Power promoting an aborted contest to appear in the cancelled Mask 2"?
I can't help but think that if you removed just one of the Nintendo 64's staple first party or Rare games from its lineup, it would instantly collapse like a Jenga tower into the 3DO/Jaguar zone in public perception. In terms of quantity, the canonical "good games" just barely make up a full library. It's weird too, because I can't say that about GameCube, which had a very similar historical context to N64 - I can imagine a world where the GameCube is beloved without a major game like Monkey Ball 2 or Smash Melee, I cannot imagine a world where the N64 is well-remembered without something like Pokemon Puzzle League or Mario Golf just barely contributing to keeping the tower stable.
unchargable strong attacks my beloved.
I Need A Noise sounds really melancholy, like a "the bad guy won, but at least the worse guy didn't" vibe. I dig it, especially fits with the Noise not saving the bosses.
It baffles that people used to have such a hard time grasping that the Nostalgia Critic is satire. I don't mean the Nostalgia Critic's meta-critics, I mean other critics who were inspired by the Nostalgia Critic. Old Mr. Enter is probably the most well known example - like, they get angry, play clips from other movies as reactions, and format their reviews as "clip - commentary - clip - commentary" in chronological order like NC, but compared to NC they never do silly slapstick acting and always try to be genuinely analytical with their own opinions instead of a funny forum nitpicker who compares everything he sees to the intimate body areas and fluids of popular characters.
I believe this is the first time this thread has ever announced a character in its title, and it is 100% warranted
"Why doesn't Smash have a unique puzzle game character yet?"
The Little Mac in the room:
buzz lightyear of star command mentioned in the new sakurai video
im going to pretend the yakko balloon in the multiversus new season art is a reference to the mickey mouse watertower incident. it is absolutely not.
I think my biggest regret with DriDim was not having it set as a "Double Dash" type game from the beginning. Would make our iconic team racers and crossover seasons a bit difficult if not non-existant, but seeing Harley and Taz drive together in that MVS McDonald's advert makes me severely regret not taking the opportunity to have Squidward and Chun-Li share the wheel on Optimus Prime
The idea of a "YouTube fighting game" is funny to me - it's typically brought up by people who like kid-skewing YouTubers like Markiplier or MatPat who have larger-than-life stage personalities that probably translate well into movesets, but if you look at it from my YouTube viewing habits - which tends to skew towards analysis-comedy video essays, with bit of straightforward comedy/memes and serious breadtube stuff thrown in - it is completely incompatible. The idea of Kevin Perjurer having a Michael Eisner jumpscare super move or debating the legality of the Ashens couch stage is hilarious.
where is jake paul keeping lil donny red
To all the MVS fans likely having to deal with people assuming (or stubbornly affirming) that Dexter and the PPG are 100% confirmed for the relaunch update because their shows' stages were shown off: I emphasise. I emphasise.
It's really weird how people talk about reasons given for not exercising or dieting, valid or otherwise, as "excuses" - like, excuses for what? What obligation do they owe you? It's not like odor or something where it could prove intrusive towards others, it's their body, you don't gain or lose anything from how they handle it.
Apparently NASB1 is a meme in Japan now? Let's gooooooooooooooooo -
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