ZSS General Discussion

[#HBC | ZoZo]

If you dsmash rob you can just start the infinite anyways.

 

[Z1GMA]

If you dsmash rob you can just start the infinite anyways.

Thing is... I haven't mastered that **** yet.
It's hard :0

 

[Deathfox30]

Thing is... I haven't mastered that **** yet.
It's hard :0

If you can cancel the Dair, you can F tilt lock him then repeat up until like 45%.

Btw... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwhLG2O32PM Are you sure that's an insta-throw? It looks more like a Z catch then a down throw as he's landing. I think the infinite is a lot easier than we're making it.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

You can also reverse a nb if that's easier for you.

 

[Nefarious B]

Yeah i think jab locking ROB makes the infinite a million times easier. BTW I was looking at the Wario footstool infinite, that **** looks soooo easy lol, I never realized that

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Wario footstool infinite with the bike tires?

 

[solecalibur]

So this is the 3rd time I lost making the MU thread write up (internet disconnects or my file is lost) , do you mind if I jsut start with some exports since I'm feeling unmotivational about doing anything else

 

[culexus・wau]

where are there ads on the tires and feeling

 

[solecalibur]

http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=95600

some interesting stuff, more known for higher lvl players but prob something we could stick in the guide? Thinking of some interesting mix ups in my mind as of now, our jab game is pretty weak with the PS 3rd jab but still interesting to consider since a 1 frame jab is kinda pro

 

[culexus・wau]

I don't think we can do anything with this because zss's jab if held stays out.

its kinda better like that anyway imo

when I listed samus in there I was talking about power suit.

I think we MAY have stuff on whiff'd SideB though, since if it connects it has a tremendous amount of hitlag

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Hmm maybe playing Snake has made me very aware of my items positioning but I have learned how very fun it is to position armor pieces to Flipstool off of for fun mindgames lol. Does anyone else like to use the pieces like that? I want to develop a real solid and diverse suit piece game.

 

[culexus・wau]

I kinda do

but they de-spawn too quickly

I like doing it with bananas and nades tho.

 

[Dakpo]

i footstool turnips when peach players throw them at me when i recover

 

[Z1GMA]

Hmm maybe playing Snake has made me very aware of my items positioning but I have learned how very fun it is to position armor pieces to Flipstool off of for fun mindgames lol. Does anyone else like to use the pieces like that? I want to develop a real solid and diverse suit piece game.

I Gotta try that out ~

 

[Z1GMA]

It was fun.

Too bad Snakes' C4 can't be flipstooled ;\

 

[saviorslegacy]

ZSS mains, your input is greatly desired:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=293219



BTW, I assume this is your social thread.... right?

 

[Dumbfire]

No this is the second social but its kinda a general discussion about ZSS, it should be..

 

[Zero]

This is the ZSS General Discussion. The ZSS Social thread is aptly named..

 

[Zero]

DOUBLE POST:

You guys remember IKKI, the Japanese ZSS that discovered a bunch of stuff?

He placed 3rd at a big tournament about a week ago.

http://smashbrothers.org/tournament/x/index

He also won the FREE FOR ALL tournament, LOL. With Zelda though. WITH ITEMS ON :O

Videos for people who don't want to decipher rune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwfR9xxyrHA - IKKI vs Earth (Pit) Winners Bracket 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1sj8Tmj6bg - IKKI vs Earth (Pit) Winners Bracket 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEmYPisOyqI - IKKI vs Aki (Falco) Losers Semis 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jn4Wjfgvl4 - IKKI vs Aki (Falco) Losers Semis 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj8ZIt9PL8M - IKKI vs Aki (Falco) Losers Semis 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKVuYFl2EIY - IKKI vs Earth (Pit) Losers Finals 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ab_BOo8pCo - IKKI vs Earth (Pit) Losers FInals 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UKrxt8i_JY - IKKI vs Nagahari vs el vs Gaia FFA Final?

 

[NickRiddle]

Why are we watching that ugly ZSS playstyle now?

Needs more D-torr instead.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

The way IKKI handles Falco is ****ing inspiring. Really ugly playstyle though.

 

[NickRiddle]

If only the way the Falco handled Falco was more impressive...
Then I could agree with you. -.-

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Noob question: Why do you guys say IKKI has an ugly playstyle?

 

[VSC.D-Torr]

Why are we watching that ugly ZSS playstyle now?

Needs more D-Torr instead.

<3

10char

 

[NickRiddle]

Noob question: Why do you guys say IKKI has an ugly playstyle?

Because he uses side-b.
And... other moves sometimes?
Mostly side-b.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Besides you, whose videos should I be watching if I want to learn how to play with a non so ugly playstyle?

 

[Albert.]

And she'll promise you more
Than the Garden of Eden
Then she'll carelessly cut you
And laugh while you're bleeding

But she brings out the best
And the worst you can be.
Blame it all on yourself
Cause she's always a woman to me.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

Dazwa has a pretty playstyle. Mr. R does too. I think my playstyle is awesome But all my videos have terrible quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHhcdylb0D8 turn down sound, prepare for eye cancer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB43F60mOFs

 

[NickRiddle]

Does EVERYBODY use the 2008 tag now?!
**** man, switching forever.

 

[VSC.D-Torr]

I don't use the 2008 tag, since I am not NickRiddle.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

I thought it was ZSS solidarity.

Plus I tend to use different tags. Like I'll use Dazwa, Snake, 1nu1, etc.

 

[NickRiddle]

I don't use the 2008 tag, since I am not NickRiddle.

You use the NotNR tag sometimes though.
Just be Dtorr again.
JUST BE YOURSELF, MAN!

It's k, I'm just changing my tag.

Something fresh.
Something that just screams me.

I'll figure it out.

 

[VSC.D-Torr]

I haven't used NotNR in a couple of months, and I don't plan on using it again .

I generally just use "(space)D(space)" as my tag now.

 

[Zero]

Should use "Buta", Nick

 

[NickRiddle]

I haven't used NotNR in a couple of months, and I don't plan on using it again .

I generally just use "(space)D(space)" as my tag now.

Okay. I should keep up with this more.

Should use "Buta", Nick

Nope.
Buta isn't cool enough.
And I don't play Pikachu.

 

[Zero]

Pikachu is a nezumi :>

 

[culexus・wau]

Can someone explain to me why people throw away suit pieces? [except from fear of getting ***** by them].

They're going to de-spawn anyway, and wasting time throwing them away just lets your opponent get in on you :X

 

[NickRiddle]

Anybody fast can go get them.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Nothing besides that except lol

It's hard to control 3 pieces at once

 

[Nefarious B]

K so.

If you're going to throw them away, atleast do it the right way. You can instant throw pieces from the ground by buffering an instant throw out of a SH, so there is no reason to press A then toss. The awesome thing about this is, the piece gets to your opponent before the "GO" sign is even gone from the screen, meaning that unless they jump or for some reason shield at the start of the match they will probably get hit.

If you're on a stage where you start on platforms like BF, CS, Lylat, you mix up the above with a drop through instant throw, which will hit an opponent who is also dropping through the plat. You can mixup those two options to change the trajectory of the piece and not get predictable.

But the point is use the speed of the pieces and the "GO" sign for free hits, this is like, the stupidest thing ever lol