Zelda information thread (last edit 02-24) Cleaning up, changing sections

[Arean]

less interdependent huh... anyways lets just main zelda then... pity for those who would like to use both...

 

[Luthien]

Zelda being invincible while Transforming was flat out negated by the fact that, immediately as Sheik appeared, she was pounded on. I really hope the Transform doesn't make it live as shown.

A-men. It doens't matter if there are invincibility frames if it takes a long time. All that changes is how much time your opponent has to get in front of you and how long they can charge their f-smash. *Shakes fist in defiance of nothing*

 

[RyokoYaksa]

This new FFA video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgVH9OGugSo pretty much confirms something very important... Farore's Wind does in fact immediately make you vulnerable when you reappear from the move.

And also... WTF is going on here!?!? Spoilers abound!

I really wish I knew WTF was going on exactly in the first few screens.

 

[Crispy Fries]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BSXDr_kL1cI

Another Zelda video with her blue costume! Kind of hard to see it though.

 

[Soluble Toast]

* SPOILERS*



Looks like the SSE has a machine or something that can corrupt the souls of said characters from the trophy.

As, we see Snake fighting Dark Zelda, and Dark peach, but their trophies are still in the backround.. Suggesting it's not the real them.


I'm also sad to see Zelda felt the need to become Sheik >.>

 

[Soluble Toast]

* SPOILERS*



Looks like the SSE has a machine or something that can corrupt the souls of said characters from the trophy.

As, we see Snake fighting Dark Zelda, and Dark peach, but their trophies are still in the backround.. Suggesting it's not the real them.


I'm also sad to see Zelda felt the need to become Sheik >.>

 

[Magus420]

LMAO @ the ridiculously long hitlag on the kicks. It's nearly twice as long as Samus' charged shot in melee.

Perhaps after hitting someone with one, Zelda transformed into Sheik for some tea to pass the time until the move finally sends them anywhere XD

 

[RyokoYaksa]

Silly Magus. Hit lag freezes the attacker in place, too.

Here's the best screencap of the blue costume that I could get from that video which I already had linked.

 

[Airgemini]

I like the new blue outfit! All of her outfits are looking good right now..
I hope the kicks arent over powered.

 

[Ztarfish]

Zelda looks positively deadly this time around
I'm excited.

 

[Luthien]

Is anyone else concerned as to how Sheik is going to drink that tea? Like, really, is she going to pour it onto her mask and let it seep into her lips?

On a side note, Ryoko, your avatar is godly.

 

[Ztarfish]

No, silly, everyone knows the only efficient way to drink tea with Sheik is to transform into Zelda, drink the tea, then promptly transform back.

Magus was obviously confused.

 

[Drake3]

Wow, this is like the 50th time I've had to post this. A summary of my summary:

Yayee Zelda. Etc etc etc.

And Fox was probably like "Too slow, princess" which made Zelda turn into Sheik to be all like "Ninja> Fur"

 

[Arean]

Lol.... but i cant believe she dpeneds on sheiking again... even in sse...

 

[Airgemini]

*Spoiler Video*

I wonder if the kicks will be easier to DI out of...

Heres a video I found with Zelda in it:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk9xKVsegWE&feature=user
It starts at 7:00 and I think you can see her neutral B at 7:30 ish...The match also has Jigglypuff in it.
The whole video has a tendency to freeze though..

 

[Magus420]

She transformed because Sheik can chain-sip Teacups from 0% to empty.

 

[Drake3]

There's a better shot of her using Nayru's Love in the clip Ryoko posted.

 

[Soluble Toast]

Now that the boards are working right for me, I should take this opportunity to post while I can xD

I'm happy with Zelda. She's really the only reason I want Brawl anymore. That, and SSE. Judging by the characters, she will probably be my only character. I'll try some here and there, but I think Zelda will be the character I play as 3/4 of the time. I can't wait to play the game and see what SSE REALLY has in store for her.

What do you guys think, fellow Zelda family?

 

[-spAzn-]

I must say I really want to know why the heck Sheik is drinking tea? Showing the inner princess side of her I suppose. SSE is looking awesome I can not wait to play it for myself by the looks of the pics Snake is going to be paired with Zelda (and Peach). I was hoping for that to happen.

Speaking of Snake and Zelda has anyone seen this: (Beware rather disturbing pic ahead hehe)

Hmmmmm all I got to say is poor Zelda seems like Snake has taking a liking to her, first trying to sneak a peak up her dress now this.

Oh yeah and notice how her leg still goes through her dress.

EDIT: found another video (don't watch if you don't want classic mode spoilers I guess sorta):
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tmG5mpyJk8g

Lots of Din's Fire usage and it looks nice. I love the sounds her moves make when they connect.

 

[RyokoYaksa]

According to people who have the game already, Farore's Wind is the exact same crappy recovery move that it was in Melee. Emphasis on "exact same." This was my absolute worst fear for Zelda, and it is apparently true. Learning how to recover with Zelda without getting punished is key. Unfortunately, this isn't possible much of the time. Should've given Zelda Mewtwo's Up+B, imo.

Din's Fire has no delay on detonation when you release B, and the explosion is very large now. Zelda can fire out the move repeatedly much faster than in Melee. She almost might be able to camp with this move. Either way, it seems very effective in the edgeguarding department.

Naryu's Love... no one really used it. Its purpose in Melee was a reflect which has been carried over to Brawl, and also had a decent number of invincibility frames before the attack portion, giving it helpful counterattack potential (You could evade and counter Fox Usmash with the right timing). We don't know if the invincibility frames are in again.

Transforming into either character requires a huge opening. It literally takes twice as long as the Melee Transform, which is unnecessitated. It still has invincibility frames, but you're open the moment the other character appears. Doing it by accident could very well lead into eating a fully charged Smash.

 

[Newuser12345215]

I would have liked if Zelda(and Sheik too) had their own Down + B moves. Maybe to transform, you have to press A + B + Down instead of just B + Down, so that each character has their own unique Down+B move.

 

[Arean]

Dins fire looks awesomesauce! Also i love her new Voice acting! it sounds nice!

 

[Pappioll]

I've added the blue costume to my recolor thread. Feel free to use it along with the others.

 

[Drake3]

According to people who have the game already, Farore's Wind is the exact same crappy recovery move that it was in Melee. Emphasis on "exact same."

...What?! But it looks so much faster. **** it all.

 

[Airgemini]

I wonder when they'll start putting youtube videos up...

 

[Stiputation]

My my! My dear children! Have you yet to see the Final Smash? Well, here it is my dear lovelies!
Final Smash:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91XPNBv_xpk
Around 0:50

Only thing being, its Sheik using it though xD;;;

 

[-spAzn-]

Darn you Stip you beat me to it . To bad she didn't hit Ike and he was like less then a foot away from her O_o. Though looks like he used his ninja skills and sidestep dodged it. So is it really that easy to dodge? Hopefully soon we will see Zelda use it and actually connect with it.

EDIT: Oops I didn't even realize Sheik and Ike were on the same team lol. So why did she try and hit Ike? Also the video posted below was pretty awesome never seen it before so thanks.

 

[1ofMany_ppl]

Just found this Awesome footage of Zelda vs. Ike and the player using Zelda is pretty decent!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eAIofUYGj7Y

Did she... use her up smash while sliding???? Awesome.

 

[Airgemini]

What the? It didnt even hit Ike when he was right in front of her lol...

 

[RyokoYaksa]

What the? It didnt even hit Ike when he was right in front of her lol...

Um, Ike was Sheik's teammate, and Team Attack is off. I'm more angry that Sheik was facing the wrong way completely. At least this confirms that it doesn't freeze time at all on Sheik's end, at least. You need a setup 1 second in advance.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eAIofUYGj7Y
And yes, this video was great. I'll put the right links in a moment. I want to see Zelda's recovery for myself, though...

 

[Stiputation]

THE LINK!
I can't use it DDDD:

-cries-
It would work any other time >.>

Could someone tell me how to navigate to the video? Which user is it under?

 

[Luthien]

Just found this Awesome footage of Zelda vs. Ike and the player using Zelda is pretty decent!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eAIofUYGj7Y

Did she... use her up smash while sliding???? Awesome.

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This is the only Zelda I have seen look decent. In fact, GOOD. I can actually tell what's been buffed now (hard to discern speed buffs when the comp. Zelda is busy down-tilting...)!

I love you.

And Stippy, I laugh at your misfortune. *Maniacal laughter* The video was INCREDIBLE!! You don't know what you're missing...

 

[Airgemini]

Oh sorry, I didnt notice it was teams....
Anyways that video between Zelda and Ike posted by 1ofMany ppl was awesome!
And in the computer match I like how the computer used Dins Fire rapidly.

 

[yuthe]

Wow - almost every A move of Zelda's got buffed, especially Up-tilt and nair. That and I think she's a tad faster on ground.

Nayru's Love is faster, but looks like it has way less range and knockback - Ike easily smashed her out of it. It probably won't clear out crowds the way it used to.

Dang - that transform was friggin' SLOW! Do you think it's to prevent Shiek users from transforming -> Zelda just to use Farore's wind? I dont' see any other reason why they'd deliberately do this... But even then, I'd imagine the best time to transform is when you're flying off the stage and trying to recover.

 

[Drake3]

Holy ****, woman. Give him a chance to earn his money back. That was AWESOME. By far the best Zelda vid I have seen thus far. All of her attacks look playable. Although I haven't seen Dair in action.

And I was just wishing for more Zelda vids. Now I can die happy...wait, I still need to PLAY the game.

But seriously that was awesome. I really wanted to see a good match between Ike and Zelda. Sorceress of my soul, you make me proud to be a Zelda main.

Also, Light Arrow was pretty cool. I can understand how Sheik missed, but we really need to see that thing connect.

And Stippy the guy is bdcool187 and he has ALOT of videos. I think he was the one who had all the new leaks first like the Marth video.

 

[Luthien]

Holy ****, woman. Give him a chance to earn his money back. That was AWESOME. By far the best Zelda vid I have seen thus far. All of her attacks look playable.

My thoughts exactly. Actually, that's the best PLAYER I've seen thus far. Am I the only one who thinks that all the other players have been horrible? That Zelda was kick-*** in comparrison.

Although I haven't seen Dair in action.

...>.>

I swear, if that's buffed to become her best move, I will DIE. But they didn't touch the down-tilt, so why fix the dair?

And I was just wishing for more Zelda vids. Now I can die happy...wait, I still need to PLAY the game.

But seriously that was awesome. I really wanted to see a good match between Ike and Zelda. Sorceress of my soul, you make me proud to be a Zelda main.

Personally, I was proud as soon as I saw her Farore's Wind in the SSE video. ...Then she got kidnapped in a matter of seconds... that dampened the joy a little...

 

[Ztarfish]

Oh my holy God.
It seems as though Sakurai did learn from his past mistakes
I am very sorry to have doubted him

 

[RyokoYaksa]

I won't be sold until I see Zelda's recovery in action. The easy exploitability of Farore's Wind was the most serious help Zelda needed, imo.

 

[Iris]

If it can sweetspot ledges better then I think she'll be fine. Either that or less landing lag.

Anyone else notice that Zelda's shield isn't too small for her anymore? Also, eventhough her legs still go through her dress, her boots look nice and her thighs rival Chun-Li's.

I'm so pleased from that last video. So far her jumps still don't seem to have much height, but her speed on the ground got a huge improvement. It seems like most of her moves have a freeze-time while connecting, so unless she gets invincibility frames, some of her moves may be dangerous to use in free-for-alls. Still, it seems like knockback, range, and damage have been improved for most of her attacks. I saw a Din's Fire do 14% (the max in melee) in one video, yet it only traveled about half the maximum distance as in Melee. It seems like she'll be in the competitive scene more than ever.

 

[Newuser12345215]

My my! My dear children! Have you yet to see the Final Smash? Well, here it is my dear lovelies!
Final Smash:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91XPNBv_xpk
Around 0:50

Only thing being, its Sheik using it though xD;;;

It's good to know Light Arrow does move nearly at the speed of light, meaning it'd be hard to dodge.

Though, we'll have to wait to see how much damage/knockback it does.