MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
I usually do dthrow -> utilt/usmash at low percents and dthrow -> dair/nair at mid-high %. Seems to me that dthrow is the best throw that YL has.
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Y. Link Match Up Discussion. Ask Questions Here!
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ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
U-throw -> d-smash seems like a sub-optimal choice. Up-smash is always going to lead to a better position/more damanging situation imo.
Cia
das kwl
Teczero's just being INSANELY modest. I recall him winning a tournament with Young Link and not dropping a single game.
True Story.
True Story.
I stopped there cuz I mean, whens the last time I won a tournament?
Oh, right NEVER.
Cia
das kwl
I can think of about 40+ ppl @NJIT that would say otherwise.I stopped there cuz I mean, whens the last time I won a tournament?
Oh, right NEVER.
That wasn't a tournament.
It was just a challenge rofl.
Also, my YL does more nairs than throws ****. So yea, I ain't winning with him anytime soon
It was just a challenge rofl.
Also, my YL does more nairs than throws ****. So yea, I ain't winning with him anytime soon
Metal Reeper
Smash Champion
Overall....Uthrow or Dthrow?
How i see it : Uthrow = combos. Dthrow = Techchase.
How i see it : Uthrow = combos. Dthrow = Techchase.
Cia
das kwl
I prefer tech chases. combos really don't happen from Uthrow. Especially in YL's most common match ups. Marth can jump out, spacies hit the ground too quick. til they get up in the hundreds somewhere and I'm pretty sure they can just DI out of range.. Peach.. we can do anything to Peach. Jiggs gets combo'd from Dthrow, but I don't recommend going for grabs on her. Same for CF.
so.. yeah. I'm gonna say Tech Chase > combo.
so.. yeah. I'm gonna say Tech Chase > combo.
Supreme Dirt
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So yeah, seeing as this is the only active thread, can I get some advice on starting out as Young Link?
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
Take the advice from the star fox series. Use bombs wisely.
Seriously, bombs are YL's best projectile for comboing. You can do bomb -> aerial. Bomb against shield -> regrab -> throw against shield -> repeat.
Try not to forward or backward throw. dthrow to tech chase and utilt combo and uthrow to combo. Don't be afraid to use dash attack. Try not to use fsmash unless you know it will hit. Use dsmash. A lot. Uair is great against FFers. You can do wall of boots against large chars like DK and Bowser.
Try using Zair to mix things up and stop some approaches. NOTE: Zair does not combo into anything.
Dtilt cannot be CCed. USE THIS TO YOUR ADVANTAGE!
Dtilt spike recoveries like spacies or marth.
Try not to throw your bomb once it is in your hand. Throw a boomerang first. Then do an arrow or throw the bomb. Try to always land the bomb or mindgame them into avoiding it and running into you.
That's all I have for now.
Also, try reading those threads that are stickied.
Having trouble getting that kill? A Laijin YL killing faq
*Updated 12/08/09*|YLink's Official Stage Ban and Counter Pick Guide!
(VIDEO INCLUDED)Hookshot Frenzy: A guide on Young Link's Hookshot by SmashMac ($Mac)
Bombs Away! ~ A Guide on Young Link's Bombs by NJ'zFinest
Seriously, bombs are YL's best projectile for comboing. You can do bomb -> aerial. Bomb against shield -> regrab -> throw against shield -> repeat.
Try not to forward or backward throw. dthrow to tech chase and utilt combo and uthrow to combo. Don't be afraid to use dash attack. Try not to use fsmash unless you know it will hit. Use dsmash. A lot. Uair is great against FFers. You can do wall of boots against large chars like DK and Bowser.
Try using Zair to mix things up and stop some approaches. NOTE: Zair does not combo into anything.
Dtilt cannot be CCed. USE THIS TO YOUR ADVANTAGE!
Dtilt spike recoveries like spacies or marth.
Try not to throw your bomb once it is in your hand. Throw a boomerang first. Then do an arrow or throw the bomb. Try to always land the bomb or mindgame them into avoiding it and running into you.
That's all I have for now.
Also, try reading those threads that are stickied.
Having trouble getting that kill? A Laijin YL killing faq
*Updated 12/08/09*|YLink's Official Stage Ban and Counter Pick Guide!
(VIDEO INCLUDED)Hookshot Frenzy: A guide on Young Link's Hookshot by SmashMac ($Mac)
Bombs Away! ~ A Guide on Young Link's Bombs by NJ'zFinest
Laijin
Smash Hero
u-throw is actually better.
Why?
-You can "chain grab" fast fallers from 0% to like 30%. Just watch their DI and regrab as soon as they land. It works and is inescapable.
-u-throw leads to a guaranteed u-air on some characters like Sheik, Y. Link, etc etc
Supreme Dirt
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I've already read the stickies. And thanks. That pretty much sums it up.
I'm starting to understand why people were angry about YL being replaced by TL in brawl. They're so ridiculously different.
Also, I love how in Star Fox, use bombs wisely translates to "spam a bomb now".
Also, bomb trapping people is hella fun.
I'm starting to understand why people were angry about YL being replaced by TL in brawl. They're so ridiculously different.
Also, I love how in Star Fox, use bombs wisely translates to "spam a bomb now".
Also, bomb trapping people is hella fun.
Laijin
Smash Hero
Toon Link is so ridiculously boring.
He's so slow and just, his aerials are boring to not fun, just overall he isn't the least bit fun.
Then again thats the entire game lol
He's so slow and just, his aerials are boring to not fun, just overall he isn't the least bit fun.
Then again thats the entire game lol
Supreme Dirt
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4 things ruin Brawl for me. I don't mind the floatiness, I'm one of those who likes Falco's new moves, and the campiness doesn't really bother me, different game and all that.
1. Meta Knight. **** Metaknight.
2. Nonspecifically lack of shield stun, specifically Ice Climbers. **** Ice Climbers.
3. Lack of Mewtwo. **** Lucario.
4. Tripping. **** Sakurai.
Anyways, to each his own, w/e.
Anyways, are there some tutorial vids for Young Link lying around? Or better yet, recent matches?
1. Meta Knight. **** Metaknight.
2. Nonspecifically lack of shield stun, specifically Ice Climbers. **** Ice Climbers.
3. Lack of Mewtwo. **** Lucario.
4. Tripping. **** Sakurai.
Anyways, to each his own, w/e.
Anyways, are there some tutorial vids for Young Link lying around? Or better yet, recent matches?
Metal Reeper
Smash Champion
Look up D20 and Hazz. I can't find any other matches of Ylink.
D20
Smash Lord
Only watch game 2.
<3
<3
I hate TL's design all together. And the fact that people call him the same as YL makes me even more pissed off being a hardcore LoZ fan. >_>
Fake *** power puff girl...
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
Going to be getting some vids up soon with my YL vs marth again. Hopefully I've improved in this MU. =D Vids should be up in a few days or so.
EDIT: One video up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3TvpEG5zmw&feature=channel_video_title I'll try and get more recorded. For some reason, the capture card screwed up the audio. it should have the audio replaced soon by youtube.
EDIT: One video up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3TvpEG5zmw&feature=channel_video_title I'll try and get more recorded. For some reason, the capture card screwed up the audio. it should have the audio replaced soon by youtube.
Metal Reeper
Smash Champion
^ Your boomerang game got much better 
I will critique it maybe tm if you want. I have work today (And tm actually)
I just had a really good idea. When the opponent misses a tech or is about to tech you should always throw your boomerang. It will cover the option of them rolling away, get up attack, regular stand up. They could roll towards you....but they probably won't. Whether they will or not will depend on if you have a bomb and where your (and there) position is.
Thoughts?
I will critique it maybe tm if you want. I have work today (And tm actually)I just had a really good idea. When the opponent misses a tech or is about to tech you should always throw your boomerang. It will cover the option of them rolling away, get up attack, regular stand up. They could roll towards you....but they probably won't. Whether they will or not will depend on if you have a bomb and where your (and there) position is.
Thoughts?
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
I wanna play some Young Link!
Laijin/rhan/d20 teach me >.<
Laijin/rhan/d20 teach me >.<
Supreme Dirt
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Does YL not really use wavedashing? It seems like he's in the air most of the time. Only real use I can see personally is if you're trying to DTilt spike and are paranoid about sweetspotting by accident.
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
Wavedashing isn't used as much as someone like falco or luigi AFAIK. It's used mostly to get off platforms and dodge attacks. Usually like, WD off plat (with bomb in hand) -> boomerang -> bomb throw.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Awesome! I'm learning him too. xD
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uthrow usmash only works at higherish percents. uthrow dsmash combos at lower percents, plus you can get a bit of a charge in. it's better to have your opponent go off the stage than get a cute combo that probably won't kill because this character sucks. it's going to be the better choice a lot of the time, especially if you're by the edge.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
It's situational though, since if you're not by the ledge the d-smash probably won't send them offstage.
Ocean
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did I imply that it wasn't situational? of course it's situational. I said "it's going to be the better choice a lot of the time", which means that there are times when it isn't. you said "up-smash is always going to lead to a better position/more damanging situation", which implies that you should never downsmash after an uthrow, because upsmash is always going to be better.
sorry if this seems crass, I'm just trying to point out that you're saying I didn't say it was situational, when my language implied it.
sorry if this seems crass, I'm just trying to point out that you're saying I didn't say it was situational, when my language implied it.
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
feel free to critique the video^ Your boomerang game got much better
I just had a really good idea. When the opponent misses a tech or is about to tech you should always throw your boomerang. It will cover the option of them rolling away, get up attack, regular stand up. They could roll towards you....but they probably won't. Whether they will or not will depend on if you have a bomb and where your (and there) position is.
Thoughts?
also, boomerang to hurt teching options sounds good to me
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
young link takes no skill...just throw a bunch of bombs and you can play even with all top/high tiers np. the other character basically needs to master the matchup to stand a chance. so gay.
Metal Reeper
Smash Champion
I disagree. It is really hard for Ylink to do anything vs higher tiers. I think the people that lose to Ylinks are just kinda stupid. I mean it's BLATANTLY OBVIOUS that you only have to do 1 thing to beat Ylink.
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
Mike, if that was true, wouldn't YL be higher in the tier list? It's much more than just "spamming bombs." lol
It's much more than just "spamming bombs." lol
Supreme Dirt
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Ugh, how do I make the nightmare that is Falco go away? Such a gay matchup.
Supreme Dirt
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Ah, so same as when I had to play against Marth as Mewtwo.
Roche_CL
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I'd say you can't spam against falco, so a good strategy is to stay near him.
Although i can imagine playing a good falco like DrPP and probably there is nothing a Ylink can do....
Well, when i play Falcos, i don't do bad.
Uair wins against anything, and falco's like to come Dair-ing at you, so use it as a counter, and also as a combo move.
Edgeguarding Falco is reaaally easy with YLink, can cover some options with boomerang and arrows and then go for Nair.
Be carefull when Bair-ing Falco, CC -> Shine -> death combo. Fair can be good if spaced well.
Sometimes arrows can be better spam, they have nice startup and little ending lag, probably harder to get the hit, but if you master them it isn't that hard and they are really good at bothering.
Nair is your friend, and probably the only killing move against a good falco. I find really hard to land a Dsmash.
Bombs and boomerangs whenever you get the chance =)
Although i can imagine playing a good falco like DrPP and probably there is nothing a Ylink can do....
Well, when i play Falcos, i don't do bad.
Uair wins against anything, and falco's like to come Dair-ing at you, so use it as a counter, and also as a combo move.
Edgeguarding Falco is reaaally easy with YLink, can cover some options with boomerang and arrows and then go for Nair.
Be carefull when Bair-ing Falco, CC -> Shine -> death combo. Fair can be good if spaced well.
Sometimes arrows can be better spam, they have nice startup and little ending lag, probably harder to get the hit, but if you master them it isn't that hard and they are really good at bothering.
Nair is your friend, and probably the only killing move against a good falco. I find really hard to land a Dsmash.
Bombs and boomerangs whenever you get the chance =)
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
Mewtwo vs Marth is rather enjoyable....
Fighting Marth with my Mewtwo, or Yoshi, is actually won of my favorable higher tier Matchups. It's not that bad actually.
it's even fun.. n_n
Metal Reeper
Smash Champion
Ylinks hardest MU's in my opinion are Falco and Marth. Probably Sheik too.
n0ne
Smash Ace
Falcos not that bad tho bcuz of Ylinks nice gimps against him. IMO hardest MU is fox because of hurting star KOs and hard to gimp chances becuase of Foxs Up B capable of burning as opposed of Falcos.
Marths hard but is manageable. Sheiks gay ...: keep ur distance against her. U air wrecks her.
Marths hard but is manageable. Sheiks gay ...: keep ur distance against her. U air wrecks her.
Metal Reeper
Smash Champion
I love Ylink vs Faclon so fun.
I can never get my opponent into Utilt or Usmash
so fun.I can never get my opponent into Utilt or Usmash
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Marth is easy. Falco isn't free, but he'll have trouble doing anything to you if you camp the platforms. Sheik has trouble approaching you, but once she gets close you're toast. So keep your distance.
Fox/Falcon counter YL.
Fox/Falcon counter YL.