Wtf Is Up With Taunt Parties!!

[Dark 3nergy]

Dracospawn, i took on a taunt party today, i lost let see...6 times and won about 6 times

The ones i won on where with ROB and Kirby. I'll upload my findings so you can see them. If i wasnt getting gang *****[losing], I was ****** the **** out of them.

You'll enjoy these--brb gonna record then upload them for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFAqqiq0nVI

LOL at the guy trying to Solimar me--sorry about the audio desync it happend due to frame loss

gimmie a view minutes to write up my thoughts--

Alright so here are my thoughts.




You want a nimble and quick character that can do gay things to other people. Kirby mets this criteria pretty well. I tried getting on PT but it failed horribly and heres why;

This video is a prime example of the different degrees of skill as shown by the players in the video.

Player 3- the guy on Pit/Sonic is the idiot.
Player 4- the guy on Solimar/DK/Jiggs/Snake/Bowser has half an idea about what hes doing and is mucking everything up for Player 2
Player 2- the guy on DDD/Falco has read these boards and knows his spacing with aerials, and how to chain grab. He kept taking me head on first.

When i tried getting on PT he kept edge hogging me, which isnt good for PT since all 3 of their recoveries suck. Now if the DDD/Falco player was dumber i could of gotten away with it. Not the case as you can see obviously.

I also tried olimar, again his poor recovery and the DDD edgehogging me wasnt a good idea.

I tried Wario, and sudden death against the DDD and lost. I think Wario might of worked but i felt more comfortable on Kirby.

ROB was..ok..but i couldnt seem to make any use of his projectiles gimping skills.

Kirby on the other hand, if you check out the match at 8:25 i planked for literally most of the match and got away with it due to their own frustration. It worked so well, the DDD got meteored with my up+b and Sonic was just being stupid all over the place. By the end of the match they were getting desperate and tried to kill each other. Didnt work since i had a 8 kill lead.

So why did i get on Kirby? Because of the DDD/Falco player. First off i know Kirby does well against both DDD and Falco. I know Kirby's move set fairly well and when i could i got grab combos off. Player 2 is the type of player you want to counter pick characters against. Now if they're on MK, unless they know MK really well i wouldnt worry about it. And yes player 2 DID switch to MK vs my ROB but i avoided the SL real easily and when he Nado'ed the idiot Player 3 and Player 4 got sucked up into it. Double edged sword

People like Player 2 that actually have some knowledge about smash are the ones you should worry about. People like Player3/4 get in the good players way and you should capitalize on this HEAVILY like i did. Punish their mistakes VERY quickly and move onto the next target. Notice how i barely used any smash attacks? If it had connected with one target another guy could of easily come up and punished me, same with grab combos. When i was in the middle of the chaos at battlefield, i did get a fthrow,uair,fthrow,uair,jab combo off on the DDD @ 9:42.

I also went after Player 3 [pit, sonic] alot. Mainly because he was an absolute idiot, i knew i could get free kills if i harassed him alittle bit. Picking out the weaklings with a free fsmash while they're taunting is always the best thing to do. When the olimar taunted at Shadow Moses, i took it apon myself to Bair his ******** *** for a free kill. Why not? Part of being a jerk is taking advantage of the situation and he was asking for it big time.

Another thing you need to keep in mind is correct stage selection. Depending on who your fighting you should pick gay stages. Taking his Falco to sky world ***** him SO hard. Footstool gimps and meteors every where..it was so sad.

Stages you should definitely go to;

Sky World- is great if they have BAD vertical recoveries.
Rainbow Cruise- also good for heavys and characters with bad recoveries.
Rumble Falls- same thing for heavys mostly
Port Town Aero Drive- good for heavys, chars with bad recoveries, and light weights the cars owns them pretty hard
Summit-again great if they have a bad recovery, theres no ledges to grab here and you can use the fish to get easy kills. You should be able to circle camp here
Bridge of Eldin- If they're using Meta Knight take them here and stay in the center of the stage. I took a good MK here once on my Ike and he had a very hard time killing me as long as i stayed center stage. You can also camp the area near the blast zones and grab>back throw for a free kill if they're stupid
Corneria-if your dealing with a light weight, take them here and kill them with ease. If you can, infinite them on the tail fin with dtilt locks/jab locks/CG infinite. Its not impossible to do as i've dtilt locked a ZSS/Wolf/Mario on my ROB. Yes, all 3 at once.

Other stages to consider;

Yoshi's Island pipes- If you take them to pipes, combo them in the center of the stage to get them above like 40% ish then camp THIS SPOT

You want to be where Mario is. If you grab and back throw them, its a free kill because the blast zone is RIGHT behind you. Sonic/Mario/Pikachu/DDD/Luigi/DK/Ness/Lucas/Snake have good back throws that kill at lower % when your next to the blast zone like this.
Onett- Circle camp in the middle, and throw them into the close blast zones if you get a chance.
Flat Zone 2- Camp near the blast zone off the LCD screen, grab, back throw, easy win. Also if your going to Flat Zone, get on a tether grabber like Olimar/Link/Toon Link. It makes your life easier.
75m- Camp in the middle of the stage, or again camp the far right side where the blast zone is and grab>back throw.
Green Hill Zone- Grab>back throw if your very close to the blast zone, if not camp the center of the stage

As i run into more taunt parties, i'll experiment more and post my findings here for you.

 

[Dracospawn]

Dracospawn, i took on a taunt party today, i lost let see...6 times and won about 6 times

The ones i won on where with ROB and Kirby. I'll upload my findings so you can see them. If i wasnt getting gang *****[losing], I was ****** the **** out of them.

You'll enjoy these--brb gonna record then upload them for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFAqqiq0nVI

LOL at the guy trying to Solimar me--sorry about the audio desync it happend due to frame loss

gimmie a view minutes to write up my thoughts--

Alright so here are my thoughts.




You want a nimble and quick character that can do gay things to other people. Kirby mets this criteria pretty well. I tried getting on PT but it failed horribly and heres why;

This video is a prime example of the different degrees of skill as shown by the players in the video.

Player 3- the guy on Pit/Sonic is the idiot.
Player 4- the guy on Solimar/DK/Jiggs/Snake/Bowser has half an idea about what hes doing and is mucking everything up for Player 2
Player 2- the guy on DDD/Falco has read these boards and knows his spacing with aerials, and how to chain grab. He kept taking me head on first.

When i tried getting on PT he kept edge hogging me, which isnt good for PT since all 3 of their recoveries suck. Now if the DDD/Falco player was dumber i could of gotten away with it. Not the case as you can see obviously.

I also tried olimar, again his poor recovery and the DDD edgehogging me wasnt a good idea.

I tried Wario, and sudden death against the DDD and lost. I think Wario might of worked but i felt more comfortable on Kirby.

ROB was..ok..but i couldnt seem to make any use of his projectiles gimping skills.

Kirby on the other hand, if you check out the match at 8:25 i planked for literally most of the match and got away with it due to their own frustration. It worked so well, the DDD got meteored with my up+b and Sonic was just being stupid all over the place. By the end of the match they were getting desperate and tried to kill each other. Didnt work since i had a 8 kill lead.

So why did i get on Kirby? Because of the DDD/Falco player. First off i know Kirby does well against both DDD and Falco. I know Kirby's move set fairly well and when i could i got grab combos off. Player 2 is the type of player you want to counter pick characters against. Now if they're on MK, unless they know MK really well i wouldnt worry about it. And yes player 2 DID switch to MK vs my ROB but i avoided the SL real easily and when he Nado'ed the idiot Player 3 and Player 4 got sucked up into it. Double edged sword

People like Player 2 that actually have some knowledge about smash are the ones you should worry about. People like Player3/4 get in the good players way and you should capitalize on this HEAVILY like i did. Punish their mistakes VERY quickly and move onto the next target. Notice how i barely used any smash attacks? If it had connected with one target another guy could of easily come up and punished me, same with grab combos. When i was in the middle of the chaos at battlefield, i did get a fthrow,uair,fthrow,uair,jab combo off on the DDD @ 9:42.

I also went after Player 3 [pit, sonic] alot. Mainly because he was an absolute idiot, i knew i could get free kills if i harassed him alittle bit. Picking out the weaklings with a free fsmash while they're taunting is always the best thing to do. When the olimar taunted at Shadow Moses, i took it apon myself to Bair his ******** *** for a free kill. Why not? Part of being a jerk is taking advantage of the situation and he was asking for it big time.

Another thing you need to keep in mind is correct stage selection. Depending on who your fighting you should pick gay stages. Taking his Falco to sky world ***** him SO hard. Footstool gimps and meteors every where..it was so sad.

Stages you should definitely go to;

Sky World- is great if they have BAD vertical recoveries.
Rainbow Cruise- also good for heavys and characters with bad recoveries.
Rumble Falls- same thing for heavys mostly
Port Town Aero Drive- good for heavys, chars with bad recoveries, and light weights the cars owns them pretty hard
Summit-again great if they have a bad recovery, theres no ledges to grab here and you can use the fish to get easy kills. You should be able to circle camp here
Bridge of Eldin- If they're using Meta Knight take them here and stay in the center of the stage. I took a good MK here once on my Ike and he had a very hard time killing me as long as i stayed center stage. You can also camp the area near the blast zones and grab>back throw for a free kill if they're stupid
Corneria-if your dealing with a light weight, take them here and kill them with ease. If you can, infinite them on the tail fin with dtilt locks/jab locks/CG infinite. Its not impossible to do as i've dtilt locked a ZSS/Wolf/Mario on my ROB. Yes, all 3 at once.

Other stages to consider;

Yoshi's Island pipes- If you take them to pipes, combo them in the center of the stage to get them above like 40% ish then camp THIS SPOT

You want to be where Mario is. If you grab and back throw them, its a free kill because the blast zone is RIGHT behind you. Sonic/Mario/Pikachu/DDD/Luigi/DK/Ness/Lucas/Snake have good back throws that kill at lower % when your next to the blast zone like this.
Onett- Circle camp in the middle, and throw them into the close blast zones if you get a chance.
Flat Zone 2- Camp near the blast zone off the LCD screen, grab, back throw, easy win. Also if your going to Flat Zone, get on a tether grabber like Olimar/Link/Toon Link. It makes your life easier.
75m- Camp in the middle of the stage, or again camp the far right side where the blast zone is and grab>back throw.
Green Hill Zone- Grab>back throw if your very close to the blast zone, if not camp the center of the stage

As i run into more taunt parties, i'll experiment more and post my findings here for you.

Cool, could you show me how to upload videos from SSBB onto my PC I could show you my method. Attacks that are quick and plow though many opponents comes in handy, my favorite is the Up smash glitch with snake, comes in handy and meta knight's match tornado. Also I find wolf handy with his fast and powerful smash attacks for low attack power. It is difficult to meteor smash with though, since he drops fast and his recovery from the attack is slow, recommended use only when opponents are high or when its the end of the match. Also I don't really mind desync and on a minor note when at the temple when your trying to get away, at the area to the left that leads to bottom area, when you are there you can wall jump off of that wall if you have a character that can do so.

 

[Nysyarc]

Cool, could you show me how to upload videos from SSBB onto my PC I could show you my method.

Actually, if you mean replays, it's very very hard to do. There are some programs that can convert Brawl replays into videos but they're rare and I don't know any. The problem is that Brawl doesn't save a video file of the match, it saves the button inputs of each character in the match and then replays them exactly each time you watch.

You'll need to get something to record the replays. If you don't mind pretty crude quality, just filming your TV with a camera while the replay is playing will work. But if you want good quality you'll have to buy something like a Dazzle that will actually record your TV screen in high quality.

 

[Dracospawn]

Actually, if you mean replays, it's very very hard to do. There are some programs that can convert Brawl replays into videos but they're rare and I don't know any. The problem is that Brawl doesn't save a video file of the match, it saves the button inputs of each character in the match and then replays them exactly each time you watch.

You'll need to get something to record the replays. If you don't mind pretty crude quality, just filming your TV with a camera while the replay is playing will work. But if you want good quality you'll have to buy something like a Dazzle that will actually record your TV screen in high quality.

Ugh I don't have money for that kind of stuff, I'll just have to settle for crude quality unless I find a program. I think another thing that poses a problem is that I'm using a laptop. A top of the line one, but a laptop none the less.

 

[Dark 3nergy]

I used something called pinnacle studio and its a device that records from TV to my laptop. Paid 78$ from Bestbuy. Um..i've heard others say they use Dazzler[i think its free], so you might want to try looking for that.

I can record live though if i wished, it would show the lag in these matches which there was. I took full advantage of that'

Mortar slide on snake and tornado from MK only work on scrubs. If you try that against a smart player you'll get shield grabbed. As with Wolf's fsmash

Taking them to different maps to take advantage of their poor recovery/heavy ness is the best option.

Heheheh i was SDI'ing out of that DDDs uair in the first match, it makes me smile-- it also shows spamming Stone doesnt work on a smart player so i abandoned that idea pretty fast

 

[9Kplus1]

Hm, I wasn't able to finish my post a while back :/. A while back.

Yes, Ike is a metaphorical tool which, in the right hands, can be used to metaphorically construct a large metaphorical house which has three bathrooms. Quite a lot for a single metaphorical tool.

Tch...

They are? Jesus, how long was I on the moon?

Apparently too long...

And of course taunt parties have a deep moral purpose and can even improve cognitive functionality and efficiency. People who participate in taunt parties will gain, on average, 12.7 IQ points after approximately 48.2 minutes of said taunt partying... you know I could go on and on but I'd just be beating a dead horse with a freaking Megaton Hammer (OoT reference! YESZ!).

I know, it's mind****ing, isn't it?

Mine is not an alternative to 'having fun', it is an alternative way to have fun. I can sort of maybe kinda in a way almost see how playing seriously or taunt partying in BB can be fun. However those got boring for me pretty quickly, so I tried the mock 'pro' play style and found it so amusing I decided to write a thread on it. And I did.

Sorry if you misunderstood, what I meant to say was, "I'm just not fond of anything titled as an alternative way of having fun on -insert here- online".

The point of this playing style is to spread chaos through the room until everyone is playing like crazed mongrels and people are being KOd and SDing every three seconds by various explosions and low percent off-stage finishers. It may sound unappealing to some, but to me it sounds a lot more fun than taunting repeatedly and mind-gaming scrubs over and over again (which you have said yourself doesn't prove anything).

Hey, it's not like I called the idea useless, I just called it bull****.

Nothing on wifi proves anything, so, I don't see your point, there.

Besides, that was only an example. There's a lot more to this play style than suicidal Ike moves and explosive crates. Any character can be used and it adds a challenge to figure out and abuse each character's most 'pro' moves and techniques. Many different items can be incorporated to add to the mayhem.

Oh yeah... Pitfalls for the Wario Bike glitch, "charging" Hotheads and reflecting them... anything else? Most of the items don't seem viable in the least >_>.

This game after all, is called Super Smash Brothers 'Brawl', not Super Smash Brothers 'Grim Altercation' or Super Smash Brothers 'Carefree Slacking'. This game was designed for anarchy, and my new style of With Anyone gameplay makes full use of that.

You won my heart at "Carefree Slacking"... oh wait.

...wait, taunt parties take effort to beat? I seem to do fine against the ones I betray. If they're scrubs, they'll attack you. Use that to you advantage >.>.

 

[DemonFart]

Oh how could I forget, betraying taunt parties, the best part about taunt parties.

Then I go MK and wrap their ****.

 

[Dracospawn]

I rarely get to choose the stage I wanna goto. However it prob will be countered by a smart player when spammed, but you have to be unpredictable. With wolf's smash attacks I stun them with the reflector, and they are still hard to counter.

 

[Dark 3nergy]

Wolf's/Fox's reflector is great for getting people off of you, iirc it has invincibility frames

i also took out a Taunt party that kept going to temple, and pissed off this guy on a green luigi/snake/mk-- he was that type of guy that finally beats you at sudden death then quickly leaves LOL ever run into those?

keep trying on the stages Draco, it'll pay off eventually. My theory is that the game randomly selects one of the players stages and sometimes chooses the same person over and over again..its stupid..

As for items..what kind of items do you have on? and for what character? I always have items off

 

[9Kplus1]

I rarely get to choose the stage I wanna goto. However it prob will be countered by a smart player when spammed, but you have to be unpredictable. With wolf's smash attacks I stun them with the reflector, and they are still hard to counter.

If you're going to CP a stage against a taunt party, make sure that they're not set on a single stage, otherwise you're ****ed.

Fighting taunt parties is pretty simple:

• Mix up your ****. If you become too predictable, you will get gangraped.
• Bumpers work amazingly, set them on low and hope that your settings it picked.
• Use their loyalty against one another. Players in a taunt party have an oath: Don't attack me and I won't attack you; in simpler words, use the players in the taunt parties as meat shields.
• At high %'s, start humping the ground, it's the white flag of Basic Brawl. Do you think I'm kidding? It works >_>.
• Use Meta Knight
• Convince a mod to give me a name change
• No johnz
• Har har

 

[Dracospawn]

Wolf's/Fox's reflector is great for getting people off of you, iirc it has invincibility frames

i also took out a Taunt party that kept going to temple, and pissed off this guy on a green luigi/snake/mk-- he was that type of guy that finally beats you at sudden death then quickly leaves LOL ever run into those?

keep trying on the stages Draco, it'll pay off eventually. My theory is that the game randomly selects one of the players stages and sometimes chooses the same person over and over again..its stupid..

As for items..what kind of items do you have on? and for what character? I always have items off

smash ball only most of the time with about every character.

If you're going to CP a stage against a taunt party, make sure that they're not set on a single stage, otherwise you're ****ed.

Fighting taunt parties is pretty simple:

• Mix up your ****. If you become too predictable, you will get gangraped.
• Bumpers work amazingly, set them on low and hope that your settings it picked.
• Use their loyalty against one another. Players in a taunt party have an oath: Don't attack me and I won't attack you; in simpler words, use the players in the taunt parties as meat shields.
• At high %'s, start humping the ground, it's the white flag of Basic Brawl. Do you think I'm kidding? It works >_>.
• Use Meta Knight
• Convince a mod to give me a name change
• No johnz
• Har har

Meat shields eh? I should've thought of that. I'll keep that noted.

 

[Dark 3nergy]

If you're going to CP a stage against a taunt party, make sure that they're not set on a single stage, otherwise you're ****ed.

Fighting taunt parties is pretty simple:

• Mix up your ****. If you become too predictable, you will get gangraped.
• Bumpers work amazingly, set them on low and hope that your settings it picked.
• Use their loyalty against one another. Players in a taunt party have an oath: Don't attack me and I won't attack you; in simpler words, use the players in the taunt parties as meat shields.
• At high %'s, start humping the ground, it's the white flag of Basic Brawl. Do you think I'm kidding? It works >_>.
• Use Meta Knight
• Convince a mod to give me a name change
• No johnz
• Har har

you can mind game them actually. If one of their buddies is on a pink kirby why not switch to a pink kirby for a few rounds to **** with them? for some parties it helps destroy their trust

 

[9Kplus1]

you can mind game them actually. If one of their buddies is on a pink kirby why not switch to a pink kirby for a few rounds to **** with them? for some parties it helps destroy their trust

I was actually thinking about editing that in... then I realized how often people pay attention to the controller ports >_>.

 

[Meccs]

I always try for a sudden death cause they're lotsa fun. I don't care about winning a TP, winning in sd is much more fun.
Oh wait I keep forgetting that BB is serious business.
I usually don't attack anyone unless they attack me. Unless maybe I feel like fighting, but then why would I be on BB in the first place...
I should try going against TPs, though. I'd love a good 3v1 challenge.

 

['V']

<3 Taunt Parties!!!

 

[Dark 3nergy]

I was actually thinking about editing that in... then I realized how often people pay attention to the controller ports >_>.

Actually...i got into a weird situation where there was 1 idoit taunter and this jerk of an Ike. The red Ike mind gamed the ******** Lucario into being his friend. I got on a red Ike, beat the **** out of the other red Ike, taunt and get the lucario on my side. Next round, i got on the same lucario, and i started to behave like him. It took the red Ike over a minute and 30 seconds to realise i was the fake one LOL

A few posts ago i said i made this Luigi/MK/Snake mad. I also forgot to mention that he was getting kills off his friend, he was forcefully killing him against his will so he could sudden death with me.

**** DESPERATE MUCH

I always try for a sudden death cause they're lotsa fun. I don't care about winning a TP, winning in sd is much more fun.
Oh wait I keep forgetting that BB is serious business.
I usually don't attack anyone unless they attack me. Unless maybe I feel like fighting, but then why would I be on BB in the first place...
I should try going against TPs, though. I'd love a good 3v1 challenge.

it'll teach you alot about anger management and being a patient, situational killer.

 

[Sucumbio]

Origins of the Taunt Party

After playing Melee for the last several days now I've come to a new conclusion. Well two, I love melee and though I don't feel it's necessarily a -better- game I do find the attraction to it over Brawl in terms of cool strategies you can't do anymore. And two... Taunt Parties are directly the result of Melee. Now, aside from the obvious that Brawl is the successor to Melee so by default one leads to the other, what I mean to point out are the various ties to Melee that a Taunt party will key into. Things like, Event level 26 Trophy Tussle 2 (the battle for Entei) haha GOD! So hard until you get a good strategy took me several tries, BUT this one event summarizes a few different Taunt Party elements.

Camping. If you'll notice in Event 26 (Melee) the CPUs aren't programmed to even move unless you are within a certain proximity. Very annoying! Very Taunt partyish, lol They DO gang up on you too, they may hit each other by accident (which is partial to the strategy in defeating them, that and forcing them to edge hog each other).

Event 26 is the quintessential 3 vs 1 match, again a major Taunt party initiative. Get good at beating this mode, and you may get better at defeating 3 vs 1 in a Taunt Party.

More you say? Yes! Let's take Event 28 Puffballs Unite! A kirby for every character, already copied. LOL!! Nothing like a screen full of kirby's. You know the Taunt Party I'm talking about. Insanity.

The list methinks is endless, just SO many references to Melee in the Taunt Party. A while back I surmised that the only real reason FOR a Taunt was to be ... well taunting. But in fact, as I've now begun a long journey into Melee, I've discovered you get points for timing your taunt correctly. ha! SOOOO as it turns out, I can't fault people for taunting it up. Not only was it rewarded in Melee, but... now there's THREE taunts LOL! I can just imagine how stoked all the Melee fans were when they discovered everyone's 2 additional taunts. I'd throw a party, wouldn't you?

Now true some antics may not have anything to do with Melee. There's head butting which I discovered by accident on Onett and even submitted a snapshot of Kirby flat up against a house's side. Uh, duck taunting, yeah, I dunno, I've equated this to the veritable "teh" ... at least that's what happens to me. I flub a down smash and the character just ... ducks. Kinda like mistyping "the" as "teh" but who knows there may be other origins to the duck taunt.

SO now I have a ? about Taunting. Was there Taunting in SSB64? I wanna get a copy but I can't find one in cart form, and I hate emu. Maybe it'll come out on virtual console.

 

[Dracospawn]

After playing Melee for the last several days now I've come to a new conclusion. Well two, I love melee and though I don't feel it's necessarily a -better- game I do find the attraction to it over Brawl in terms of cool strategies you can't do anymore. And two... Taunt Parties are directly the result of Melee. Now, aside from the obvious that Brawl is the successor to Melee so by default one leads to the other, what I mean to point out are the various ties to Melee that a Taunt party will key into. Things like, Event level 26 Trophy Tussle 2 (the battle for Entei) haha GOD! So hard until you get a good strategy took me several tries, BUT this one event summarizes a few different Taunt Party elements.

Camping. If you'll notice in Event 26 (Melee) the CPUs aren't programmed to even move unless you are within a certain proximity. Very annoying! Very Taunt partyish, lol They DO gang up on you too, they may hit each other by accident (which is partial to the strategy in defeating them, that and forcing them to edge hog each other).

Event 26 is the quintessential 3 vs 1 match, again a major Taunt party initiative. Get good at beating this mode, and you may get better at defeating 3 vs 1 in a Taunt Party.

More you say? Yes! Let's take Event 28 Puffballs Unite! A kirby for every character, already copied. LOL!! Nothing like a screen full of kirby's. You know the Taunt Party I'm talking about. Insanity.

The list methinks is endless, just SO many references to Melee in the Taunt Party. A while back I surmised that the only real reason FOR a Taunt was to be ... well taunting. But in fact, as I've now begun a long journey into Melee, I've discovered you get points for timing your taunt correctly. ha! SOOOO as it turns out, I can't fault people for taunting it up. Not only was it rewarded in Melee, but... now there's THREE taunts LOL! I can just imagine how stoked all the Melee fans were when they discovered everyone's 2 additional taunts. I'd throw a party, wouldn't you?

Now true some antics may not have anything to do with Melee. There's head butting which I discovered by accident on Onett and even submitted a snapshot of Kirby flat up against a house's side. Uh, duck taunting, yeah, I dunno, I've equated this to the veritable "teh" ... at least that's what happens to me. I flub a down smash and the character just ... ducks. Kinda like mistyping "the" as "teh" but who knows there may be other origins to the duck taunt.

SO now I have a ? about Taunting. Was there Taunting in SSB64? I wanna get a copy but I can't find one in cart form, and I hate emu. Maybe it'll come out on virtual console.

My theory on the duck taunt is that that is there way to see if your really a taunt spammer, and not a backstabber. I've noticed that backstabbers rarely duck taunt.

 

[Sucumbio]

My theory on the duck taunt is that that is there way to see if your really a taunt spammer, and not a backstabber. I've noticed that backstabbers rarely duck taunt.

Watch out for the grammar nazi jk nyke

nah but yeah I noticed that if you duck taunt right away in WA then anyone else that also does so instantly recognizes you want to taunt party. If it's mid battle it's just another taunt to replace one of your 3 standard taunts. If someone erupts into taunt key spamming mid battle it means that 1.) the battle is going SO atrociously due to someone in the group being totally spammy or something or maybe items are set to something ******** so lets please just taunt party and get it over with, lol 2.) someone is SO bad in the group (WATB for sure) that you might as well Taunt as do anything else cause scoring a KO against them is like taking candy from a baby 3.) (rarest) something epic happened and no one but the taunter noticed so they wanna Taunt like mad as if to say "hey cool!" ... or something.

You can kinda tell when a group member wants to Taunt party cause they'll seem fairly skilled and yet also seem like they're holding back... and of course the moment anyone in the group taunts for any reason, forget it, that member will be like yay! and start taunting like crazy and have a one-person taunt party if no one else bites. If you attack them, they usually duck taunt a couple times, then run away as if to say "nah, don't wanna fight, lets taunt party!" hahaha ... *sigh*

 

[Nysyarc]

My theory on the duck taunt is that that is there way to see if your really a taunt spammer, and not a backstabber. I've noticed that backstabbers rarely duck taunt.

My theory on the duck taunt is that it's their way to see if you're really a taunt spammer, and not a backstabber. I've noticed that backstabbers rarely duck taunt.

The Grammar Nazi hath spoken.

 

[Dracospawn]

Watch out for the grammar nazi jk nyke

nah but yeah I noticed that if you duck taunt right away in WA then anyone else that also does so instantly recognizes you want to taunt party. If it's mid battle it's just another taunt to replace one of your 3 standard taunts. If someone erupts into taunt key spamming mid battle it means that 1.) the battle is going SO atrociously due to someone in the group being totally spammy or something or maybe items are set to something ******** so lets please just taunt party and get it over with, lol 2.) someone is SO bad in the group (WATB for sure) that you might as well Taunt as do anything else cause scoring a KO against them is like taking candy from a baby 3.) (rarest) something epic happened and no one but the taunter noticed so they wanna Taunt like mad as if to say "hey cool!" ... or something.

You can kinda tell when a group member wants to Taunt party cause they'll seem fairly skilled and yet also seem like they're holding back... and of course the moment anyone in the group taunts for any reason, forget it, that member will be like yay! and start taunting like crazy and have a one-person taunt party if no one else bites. If you attack them, they usually duck taunt a couple times, then run away as if to say "nah, don't wanna fight, lets taunt party!" hahaha ... *sigh*

Ok I'll keep that noted.

The Grammar Nazi hath spoken.

We have grammer police here? Whats next? Fashion police?

 

[Nysyarc]

We have grammer police here? Whats next? Fashion police?

Smilie police. You definitely should have used the there instead of the

 

[Dracospawn]

Smilie police. You definitely should have used the there instead of the



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Wow....just....wow...lol.

 

[Zario777]

why do ppl act like idiots online when they can do that offline without taking up expert brawlers time! you dont just sit there and taunt the entire match..and you dont gang up on anyone wen it is a regular brawl..thats what team brawl is for ! jeez im peeved lol

Ive been experiencing the same crap 2!

 

[Dracospawn]

Who hasn't on basic brawl?

 

[Omnicron's Baklava Enterprises]

It is quite strange, all of you talking about breaking up Taunt Parties, and how easy it is.
Whenever I come upon a Taunt Party, with one reject, we all gang up on the Brawler and they usually end up leaving first.
I wonder where all of you got the idea of easily destroying a Taunt Party.

Either that, or the 'Taunt bonds' that my Taunting friends and I share are strong, and we do not give up until the Brawler rage-quits.
It is quite funny to see a Taunt Party Crasher get frustrated and then choose Meta Knight/Ike/Pit to start spamming us with Tornado/Eruption/Aether/Arrows and fail to actually knock us out.

 

[9Kplus1]

Wait... are you insinuating that Taunt parties aren't easy to break up? The "rejects" that you're speaking of aren't attacked until they attack the taunt party.

No one spams Nado on wifi, same goes for Eruption >_>. No nub picks MK, either.

 

[Omnicron's Baklava Enterprises]

Wait... are you insinuating that Taunt parties aren't easy to break up? The "rejects" that you're speaking of aren't attacked until they attack the taunt party.

No one spams Nado on wifi, same goes for Eruption >_>. No nub picks MK, either.

Breaking up the Taunt Parties I have been in has not seemed easy for the people that try. Maybe it is for you.

They do spam those attack, actually, (I have seen it once of twice, however) and if they do not, they get on Pikachu and try out Thunder.

 

[Nysyarc]

I just pick Pirate Ship and water spike them with Ike. There's nothing they can do about it. No character is as good at water spiking as Ike, and they're usually stupid enough to jump right into my Aether that sets it up. I just camp the water the whole time and they fall one by one. It's worked every time I've tried it. The best part is when they realize I'm going to win and get desperate, all attacking at once, completely losing their composure.

There really isn't much skill involved with taking out taunt parties. It's just like taking out CPUs, you just have to learn their redundant habits and exploit them.

 

[Omnicron's Baklava Enterprises]

I just pick Pirate Ship and water spike them with Ike. There's nothing they can do about it. No character is as good at water spiking as Ike, and they're usually stupid enough to jump right into my Aether that sets it up. I just camp the water the whole time and they fall one by one. It's worked every time I've tried it. The best part is when they realize I'm going to win and get desperate, all attacking at once, completely losing their composure.

There really isn't much skill involved with taking out taunt parties. It's just like taking out CPUs, you just have to learn their redundant habits and exploit them.

Please do not stereotype all Taunters to be idiotic and redundant.
We do it for fun on Wi-Fi, not to win or lose.

 

[Nysyarc]

Please do not stereotype all Taunters to be idiotic and redundant.
We do it for fun on Wi-Fi, not to win or lose.

Then don't stereotype all party crashers to be incapable of breaking up taunt parties. It's a sick type of human being who annoys someone to the point where they rage quit just for the 'fun' of it. Most taunt crashers have no idea that they're fighting a taunt party; they're just scrubs trying to play Brawl, and they can't figure out why everyone's teaming up on them and pissing them off to no end.

 

[TheZizz]

I just nado spam like he said. It works 100% because winning is nothing to do with it. Bad juju is the name of their game, their goal is contempt, disdain, and other things that have no place in a caring heart, the one thing they're not interested in fighting stoic warrior rocks who don't care and just 'nado spam match after match. Tai chi is the way, brush off the negativity like so much digital feces

The Art of War is to win without fighting, the score means nothing (sounds familiar Nysarc!), ultimate goal is only the off-chance that they will quit forever, unfortunately this does require self-awareness on their part such that "this isn't worth my time," and I fear most will remain in the trance because deep in the subconscious they love the 'nado spam, and it's a matter of obligation on my part to feed their masochism

 

[Nysyarc]

I just nado spam like he said. It works 100% because winning is nothing to do with it. Bad juju is the name of their game, their goal is contempt, disdain, and other things that have no place in a caring heart, the one thing they're not interested in fighting stoic warrior rocks who don't care and just 'nado spam match after match. Tai chi is the way, brush off the negativity like so much digital feces

The Art of War is to win without fighting, the score means nothing (sounds familiar Nysarc!), ultimate goal is only the off-chance that they will quit forever, unfortunately this does require self-awareness on their part such that "this isn't worth my time," and I fear most will remain in the trance because deep in the subconscious they love the 'nado spam, and it's a matter of obligation on my part to feed their masochism

Spoken like a champ. The reason I water spike isn't to get the KOs. It's so I spike them repeatedly, forcing them down, never letting them resurface for air. If I just wanted KOs I'd Bthrow -> spike them on normal stages. I rarely actually KO them while water spiking, since there are three of them and it's laggy and they need to be at like 60% before they die from one. But it's about beating down their morale until they give up and never ruin anyone else's WiFi experience again.

 

[Dark 3nergy]

It is quite strange, all of you talking about breaking up Taunt Parties, and how easy it is.
Whenever I come upon a Taunt Party, with one reject, we all gang up on the Brawler and they usually end up leaving first.
I wonder where all of you got the idea of easily destroying a Taunt Party.

Have you watched my video yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFAqqiq0nVI

Communication and organization is very hard to do in a taunt party. All you need is a smart enemy and your party is as good as destroyed

now, the video is biased in that it shows me winning-- the reality is though if they werent ****** me with being organized i was ****** them really bad

Also note, i used PT/Kirby/ROB against them.

Best way to destroy a party is by picking REALLY good counter pick maps that separate them and cause confusion-- plus being on a character that does very GAY things. SO knowing whether or not your buddies are gonna pick a good map to keep you all organize--which i highly doubt-- then your screwed if your not all picking Final D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2oI9UmphXE

In this match, the marth left before it timed out. I indicated how i knew this by the annotation.

Please do not stereotype all Taunters to be idiotic and redundant.
We do it for fun on Wi-Fi, not to win or lose.

but hes right though. All i do is exploit their repetitive behaviors plus their items and thats all it takes.

What characters do you frequent BB on? I'll challenge the taunt parties your in. Also what kind of behaviors do you do, so i can identify you?

I just nado spam like he said. It works 100% because winning is nothing to do with it.

any kind of spamming does not = win

 

[Darkrai Lv.1000]

Taunt parties aren't that bad. I mean, who can take Basic Brawl seriously? It's like fighting smarter, skilled CPUs. Since the time I stopped taking Basic Brawl seriously when I got ganged upon by other goofers, I now find taunt parties to be quite entertaining. I don't play Basic Brawl to win like all those other serious ppl, I play just to have fun. But don't get me wrong; sometimes I do fight, but not when there's a taunt party going on.

I usually enter as white-shelled Bowser, orange-haired Lucas, "oldie" Ganondorf, Fire Luigi, Black Zero Suit Samus, "fire-flowered" overalls Wario, the dark colored Sonic, or more recently, white Marth (pretty much my mains that have spammable taunts). If you happen to see any of these characters being used in a row like this, then you probably have found me.

 

[Sucumbio]

Another look at Taunt parties.

Since over a year and a half ago when I started WA Basic Brawl and Team Battle I've noticed a few norms. A Taunt Party is typically formed by 4 or so like-skilled brawlers who have already had a ton of honest matches, everyone's come in 1st or worn that Victory Wreath (I personally strive to be the wreath wearer in Team Battle; it's not enough to just be the winning team, but to also be the winning team member) and now it's been an hour or so, and everyone's... well tired, lol! I mean, unlike chance meetings on a friend finder, or in an online tourney, WA gives you a -chance- to find a like-skilled or perhaps better-skilled player. Unlike rated matches you get several tries against them. You get to learn all their moves. And they you. Once that's done, tho... what else is there? To keep brawling? Ok, sure. I mean especially with Items on, there's no end to the levels of insanity and fun you can achieve. With items off, if everyone's at LEAST like-skilled, so too will the "fun" seem unending. But ... eventually you might just wanna say, ok enough is enough lets goof around. A veritable salute to your fellow brawlers in the room, to Taunt Party.

Then someone drops out. Maybe had to go to work, or bed, or whatever. Great. So ... now you have an open slot. Which gets filled with D.E. (sorry, mate gonna use you as an example)

Now, the 3 remaining, well shoot they've BEEN brawling. D.E.'s new, just logged in. Those 3 remaining, ya think they really want to start all over? Learn THIS new guy's moves. Show HIM their moves. Nah. Better to just say "hey new guy, we're all good, just wanted to chill out a bit and fool around, you in? No? Then we'll gang up on you until you leave or join."

Now, granted D.E. may be good enough to force the issue. To demand a decent match. But unfortunately, one cannot make such demands on WA.

Now lets take that video of D.E.'s up there. First match, brilliant work. Though... I hate to say it you weren't REALLY breaking up the taunt party. More you were showing that you're good enough to get a KO here, a KO there... but the spirit of the Taunt Party remained. Even when losing, the others still Taunt. Because they're not trying to win. Notice in that video D.E. at first only is fighting 1 opponent at a time, making his way all over the stage. Taking advantage of the Basic Brawl 2 minutes, etc... you should have a fair shake at coming in 1st place under these conditions if you have skill because the other 3 can't gang up on you properly w/o damaging each other which is a Taunt Party no-no.

The only real way to identify a properly broken up Taunt Party is by converting all members to fight rather than Taunt. That or making a Taunter drop out. Last time I tried crashing a Taunt Party, I did pick MK. I was much better skilled than any of the 3 Taunters. It was nothing to KO each of them repeatedly and in some fairly epic ways. And they all promptly dropped out and I was left with no one to brawl with for a while. Anyone that logged in would Taunt spam. It stayed like this until -I- logged out and remained logged out for like 3 hours. Then finally I got some decent brawls. I haven't even tried crashing Taunters since, it's so... beneath me as a gamer. In other words, I have no more control over which room I enter, as they do in terms of who will fill that 1 slot. So rather than be a killjoy and wreck their fun, I just taunt party one round and log out and back in until I get a Fighting group (it does say Ready to Fight, Nintendo, not Ready to be Gay!)

So in summation: I don't believe Taunt Party members are really as carefree as they seem. They're more... done with Fighting and would rather do something else. I also believe that people who log into Basic Brawl with the express intent of breaking up a Taunt Party should they encounter one, well they're missing something about how Basic Brawl works and should reconsider their actions for their own moral sake. And lastly, though you may succeed in coming in 1st place during a Taunt Party (which ironically is the exact opposite goal of some Taunt Parties) it doesn't necessarily mean you're better than those members, just that they really don't care to prove themselves to you. By them not fighting, in other words, more is being said about you, than them.

 

[Dark 3nergy]

i know dude that Blue DDD was spaming his up taunt so hard after he killed me at shadow moses

Also Sucumbio, that DDD/Falco knew what he was doing. He was trying to tech chase me and tried to grab me several times on his DDD/Falco. He also knew how to space me, approach me[Bair's] and he did try camping me with his falco at sky world. But i figured out how to hide against the lasers by ledge camping on the right ledge of the map. The problem he was having was he couldnt FIND situations to combo me because his taunt buddy player 4 kept getting in his way and kept creating situations where he couldnt continue HIS assult without hurting player 4/3. THIS concept is what i primarily take advantage of when it comes to these types of parties.

Laymen's terms: HES HOLDING BACK


Also, if one of the peoples in your taunt party starts to attack you. Or starts acting weird. CHECK THEIR SHIELD. IF ITS GREY they have either;

1. Disconnected
2.L+R+START+A

and they've become a CPU so kill them. If they're a Yoshi and they disconnect, they will not show a grey shield. Watch for really robotic like behavior.


Dont get me wrong man, taunt parties are a good way to chill out for abit if you just recently got out of a tough room. But i just dont find any real interest in them unless i need to rest. I usually L+R+START+A and leave during the match if its a 4 person taunt party. But sometimes i stay if they decide to be really gay towards me. For the record, i always keep items off and select neutral stages. Sometimes counterpicks. I like using other peoples items against them. I call it irony.

 

[Sucumbio]

hey I just noticed you're from OH, I've got a few friends in OH I brawl with online, lots of good competition up there, we should brawl some time. Yeah, that blue DDD was hilarious, spamming uTilt over and over like you'd just walk into it, lol and his Falco was good, but like you say couldn't get a good position cause Taunters are in the way. It makes me wonder if he even really wanted to Taunt Party. I mean, when you get Taunt parties and you attack someone, they -should- just run away and Taunt some more, but a lot of times they get SO mad you attacked them they try going ape on you and end up failing cause they're not paying attention lol incidentally we almost saw a rage quit yesterday, NOT cause of the taunting, but because this Sonic was SO GOOD! I was like yay! Brother didn't even taunt, not once, until the very last match before he dropped out where I also picked sonic and we were on the same team, haha that was some good brawls. In fact yesterday had tons of decent brawlers for once, i was quite pleased, and there was a nifty TL that kept bombing his own team mate if they taunted lol

 

[choknater]

taunting is a part of every fighting game lol. they put the emotional aspect of the game in on purpose. taunting... is meant to TAUNT you. lmao, isn't it simple?

so when people get mad and complain, i guess it was part of the game design hehe

 

[professor mgw]

your right chok, but not in serious matches though.