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Who has the best/worst jab in the game?
- Thread starter WhatIsRaizen?
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WhatIsRaizen?
Smash Ace
That's were it's going.
Roxas1988
Smash Journeyman
How can you say sonic has the worst jab. His jab is pretty solid if you know how to use it. I would have to say snakes jab is the best because it can cancel most projectiles which is bull ****!!!!!
Doomblaze
Smash Journeyman
Zamus, falco, snake, ike are the best in no particular order
worst are metaknight, olimar,
most peoples jabs are usable though
The best jab in the game is still the best jab in the game. being "forced to put almost his entire game into his jab" doesn't magically make the jab slower. Or have less range. Or less hitstun. His jab would be just as good as it is now if his Neutral B granted him a FD sized, frame one OHKO move.
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no, it would not be as good, it would be the worst jab in the game
it would not exist
because he would not exist
worst are metaknight, olimar,
most peoples jabs are usable though
The best jab in the game is still the best jab in the game. being "forced to put almost his entire game into his jab" doesn't magically make the jab slower. Or have less range. Or less hitstun. His jab would be just as good as it is now if his Neutral B granted him a FD sized, frame one OHKO move.
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no, it would not be as good, it would be the worst jab in the game
it would not exist
because he would not exist
Kantō
Smash Champion
squirtle has the best IMO
zzs kinda sux
zzs kinda sux
Roxas1988
Smash Journeyman
Lol My thoughts exactly. Who cares who's jab is better its a JAB. Move on your wasting precious space.
and what about links jab ??
it's a good jab , no question ^^
mountain_tiger
Smash Champion
The person who created the topic. This thread isn't that bad, guys.
I'm really glad that someone has realised this. OK, so the third jab doesn't truly combo. To remedy this, simply jab twice, then roll away or cancel it into a DTilt or something. You can always get a jab out of a grounded grab release (unless you're playing Donkey Kong), and it makes a great interrupting move.
Good? Sure. Among the best in the game? No.
Llumys
Smash Champion
Best overall would definitely be Falco.
Peach, Squirtle, Zero Suit Samus, Ike, and Snake are up there, too.
Peach, Squirtle, Zero Suit Samus, Ike, and Snake are up there, too.
smashkng
Smash Lord
Many characters can shield the kick of Snake's jab. But it has extremely high priority. It also truelly combos into ftilt. And up tilt and grab if used on a character in the air.
_Keno_
Smash Lord
Peach can jab oos between snakes f-tilts hits, and it is also the foundation of her aggresssive game. Autocanceled aeriel --> Jab is ungrabbable for most characters.
It may not be the best jab, but it may win "most useful jab for that character" award.
Luigi's is really good too.
It may not be the best jab, but it may win "most useful jab for that character" award.
Luigi's is really good too.
Jupz
Smash Master
Worst is probably MK's, followed by DDD.
Palpi
Smash Hero
Olimar's does 12 or 13% it is better than MK's :D
Lord Viper
SS Rank
☆ I'll say Ike or Luigi's jab for best, they can follow up with a grab, or just end it if they want to, and Luigi is able to Up-B during his follow up jab. I can see Meta Knight's being one of the worst, but over all I'll say Jigglypuff. ☆
Are you really meaning to say that Peach's jab is more important to her, than the relative jabs of...
Ike or Falcon?
Because nobody here really understands what it means to have a "good" jab.
Because everyone keeps forgetting that Luigi exists, duh.
smashkng
Smash Lord
I think Link can jab cancel for extra damage, but it's a 7 frame jab. It can also jab lock. Izaw uses it a lot.
Popcornio
Smash Apprentice
Lucas' jab catches me offguard a lot because of it's weird hitbox; it can hit you from behind him, and suck you into the rest of it.
Kinzer
Mammy
If you don't hold the attack button until the end of the sequence, you leave enough time inbetween the individual hits for the opponent to either shield or counter with a VERY quick attack.
Just hold the button and that should take care of it.
WhatIsRaizen?
Smash Ace
I think so too. Lucas has one of the better jabs.
InfiniteBlaze
Smash Apprentice
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Ike's jab is so freaking gay.
¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯
Smash Legend
Who even cares?
4nace
Smash Ace
Ike has the best jab in the game. Followed by probably Falco.
I would say Zelda probably has the worst, but its close. Sonic's is bad if you don't count the awesome Jab Lock that isn't too hard to set up if you are good at Fast Fall Neutral Airs.
Also Ivysaur's is probably the coolest though haha
I would say Zelda probably has the worst, but its close. Sonic's is bad if you don't count the awesome Jab Lock that isn't too hard to set up if you are good at Fast Fall Neutral Airs.
Also Ivysaur's is probably the coolest though haha
4nace
Smash Ace
Why Jab when your Smashes come out faster? And if you're playing against people who Smash DI out of the smash attacks, then its time to pick a new character haha =)
But no, my friend has mained Zelda since day one, and even though he may not use her Jab as much as he should, her jab is still pretty useless.
But no, my friend has mained Zelda since day one, and even though he may not use her Jab as much as he should, her jab is still pretty useless.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Zeldas jab ain't bad
Worst is probably marths or ivysaurs.
Worst is probably marths or ivysaurs.
4nace
Smash Ace
-Low Knockback.
-Terrible start-up time (Sonic can dash grab if he sees it starting.)
- Slower than F-smash, D-smash, D-tilt which can all be used in similar situations, only d-tilt is more spammable and has comparable range.
However, I do agree that the cooldown is awesome so its great for comboing as you can follow it up well with anything really. Also, what do you mean can force a get up? Like if you have them d-tilt locked or if they don't tech the ground? Because I would much rather have a jab-lock or more dtilts/down smash in that situation because even if they have to get up you might miss the free hit.
-Terrible start-up time (Sonic can dash grab if he sees it starting.)
- Slower than F-smash, D-smash, D-tilt which can all be used in similar situations, only d-tilt is more spammable and has comparable range.
However, I do agree that the cooldown is awesome so its great for comboing as you can follow it up well with anything really. Also, what do you mean can force a get up? Like if you have them d-tilt locked or if they don't tech the ground? Because I would much rather have a jab-lock or more dtilts/down smash in that situation because even if they have to get up you might miss the free hit.
zeldspazz
Smash Master
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Low knockback is not a bad thing. Allows for follow ups
Jab can be used in place of Fsmash, Dsmash, and dtilt because those are the ones you want fresh.
What I mean by a force getup is that after knockback, the opponent cant DI or tech the ground, causing them to land with extra lag letting Zelda to either follow up with Dash attack or something, or to start a tech chase/getup that can be shield grabbed.
Jab can be used in place of Fsmash, Dsmash, and dtilt because those are the ones you want fresh.
What I mean by a force getup is that after knockback, the opponent cant DI or tech the ground, causing them to land with extra lag letting Zelda to either follow up with Dash attack or something, or to start a tech chase/getup that can be shield grabbed.
4nace
Smash Ace
Hmmm is that really true? Because if it is, I think my friend and I need to practice doing that into Sonic jab locks. Seems like it would work well in doubles if it really puts them on the ground and its untechable. How often does it do that / what are the right percentages?
zeldspazz
Smash Master
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You would have to test that. It's weight dependant.
Edit: With Mario, it starts at 40%, and he is able to tech after 90%
So, depending on how heavy Sonic is ocmpared to Mario, you can get a rough estimate on what percentages
Edit2: Its been tested Zelda can safely follow up with:
Dash Attack (the safest option)
Hyphen Usmash
Running Grab
Dtilt / Dsmash (if they are very close)
Edit: With Mario, it starts at 40%, and he is able to tech after 90%
So, depending on how heavy Sonic is ocmpared to Mario, you can get a rough estimate on what percentages
Edit2: Its been tested Zelda can safely follow up with:
Dash Attack (the safest option)
Hyphen Usmash
Running Grab
Dtilt / Dsmash (if they are very close)