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chiyo-chan' dad
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I was thinking the same thing, I agree with you, it does indeed balances the game out, but it's going to get annoying with meteors all over the show.
Chaotic Yoshi
Smash Lord
But they added alot of stages with no below stage kill zone, just sides and top. So there won't be THAT many meteors...
How many levels have no Bottomlesspits?
YOSHIDO
Smash Ace
I think that was one of the most sexiest updates ever. Mind games can be so sick now. Especially in team. and from the yoshi screens. I guess if you land on someone weight compattable you can ride them. Since the sakira said that u have to jump off of them at the right time. Just think of the combinations. There could be 2 charge shots flying across the screen. And so much more.
Smashgasim #1 Its a team battle. Yoshi and samus have to take down peach. But they can't catch her normally. Samus jumps in the air. In mid distance of her jump. Yoshi jumps on samus. This gives him another jump. An yoshi goes for the super high f air. ( lol i dont know it that would work since we dont know if you can jump again in the air since its a meteor in the air already. But it would be coool)
Smashgasim #1 Its a team battle. Yoshi and samus have to take down peach. But they can't catch her normally. Samus jumps in the air. In mid distance of her jump. Yoshi jumps on samus. This gives him another jump. An yoshi goes for the super high f air. ( lol i dont know it that would work since we dont know if you can jump again in the air since its a meteor in the air already. But it would be coool)
well leadies and gentleman...Del Money is back!!! what a disappointment that the board crashed yesterday all night longing and i fell asleep waiting for the fix.these problems are really ****ing pissing me off.
Off-Topic: so i perused through every i had missed and noticed that there was talk about that stupid fake Sonic 7/26 deadline article (with "ESRB" spelled wrong on it), the baseball and RDK's joke directed at me, ethan's (who im surprised is only 3 years younger than me) lack of skeet knowledge (which everyone decided to sexeducate him on the art of..."creaming"), Weed is still a *****-*** mother****er, Roy aparrently likes guy while Marth is a metro, and Contents_Under_Pressure finally shows up consistently on the boards after like 5 days dammit. amazing what you miss when you prepare for your bro's wedding
On-Topic: can you say lame update? i mean the only thing thatll be useful for is perhaps edgegarding. apart from that, you really have to be a ****ing n00b to not know how to up-smash, up-tilt, or up-aerial someone trying to jump on you. only thing im inerested in is how th non-anthropomorphic (dont know if i spelled that right) characters like zelda, link, sexy suit samsu, etc. will look when theyre jumped on
Off-Topic: so i perused through every i had missed and noticed that there was talk about that stupid fake Sonic 7/26 deadline article (with "ESRB" spelled wrong on it), the baseball and RDK's joke directed at me, ethan's (who im surprised is only 3 years younger than me) lack of skeet knowledge (which everyone decided to sexeducate him on the art of..."creaming"), Weed is still a *****-*** mother****er, Roy aparrently likes guy while Marth is a metro, and Contents_Under_Pressure finally shows up consistently on the boards after like 5 days dammit. amazing what you miss when you prepare for your bro's wedding
On-Topic: can you say lame update? i mean the only thing thatll be useful for is perhaps edgegarding. apart from that, you really have to be a ****ing n00b to not know how to up-smash, up-tilt, or up-aerial someone trying to jump on you. only thing im inerested in is how th non-anthropomorphic (dont know if i spelled that right) characters like zelda, link, sexy suit samsu, etc. will look when theyre jumped on
I agree with you, this move can be used in many ways, it will be fun testing ti on Dec 3rd
zerosin
Smash Apprentice
Sakurai said this was a meteor smash, so if meteor cancels still exist, this technique will have almost no use.
*edit*
Okay, seems Yoshido's post has convinced me otherwise.
lanky_gunner
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no i can't say lame update. this adds so much strategy to the gameplay. and what if it were a team match? what if the character you jump on was trying to KO your opponent using a diffrent move? plus there's lag after an attack to consider.
and characters like link, i'd say the same thing, even if it does look cartoony
so wouldn't they just jump on their head again?
Sakurai said this was a meteor smash, so if meteor cancels still exist, this technique will have almost no use. Maybe in teams, but probably not.
Sculelos
Smash Journeyman
Eh, theres still uses for meteors, not everyone is super good and can avoid things like this all the time... I wish there were more smash players in my area, I've played several dozen people and brought the beatdown on them all. Thats why I hope Brawl has online so I have some more challage cause even with lag and whatnot it's still better then playing alone.
Sakurai said this was a meteor smash, so if meteor cancels still exist, this technique will have almost no use. Maybe in teams, but probably not.
Blackadder
Smash Master
I dislike this new tactic myself...
It seems a little tacked on to me. But it is definatly an attempt from
Sakurai to balance the game out more, no doubt.
Methinks this move will cause mayhem in le matches.
It seems a little tacked on to me. But it is definatly an attempt from
Sakurai to balance the game out more, no doubt.
Methinks this move will cause mayhem in le matches.
YOSHIDO
Smash Ace
Why yes he would good sir. An either a since he used his second jump to jump off of him he would use his up b. and it would turn into an intense race to get back to the ledge. Or b it would be a jumping almost mid air battle.
greenblob
Smash Lord
If the knockback is similar to meteors used on grounded opponents, it might setup for some nice combos since you're launched into the air along with your opponent.
doesn't look like the case. Wario kinda just got smushed and then sprang back up, but stayed on his feet
Moon Monkey
Smash Hero
Well now we obviously know now not to trust any more magazines about brawl infor and Sonic? Anyway this update was unexpected and random
chiyo-chan' dad
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Man, why are some people saying that this update is crap, this update is sick the best one of the week.
Moon Monkey
Smash Hero
Personally i think this update is horrible, especially for the power types (D.K and Bowser). Since their so big and they get caught up in the fray with people, and somebody is going to want to jump to get higher ground to regain focus. Chances are when they jump (Since D.k and bowser are so big) they
yeah this tactic blows. it would be good for multiplayer im thinking
thats a ood point but using it is a a regular attack from probably require mindgames like crazy unless youre up against a total n00b
kosmoco
Smash Apprentice
The update is good but not the best one this week im just glad that they added something new to the game.
BigRick
Smash Master
The higher your %, the later you are able to Meteor Cancel.
In other words, getting footstooled at high dmg = you're screwed.
In other words, getting footstooled at high dmg = you're screwed.
bjdavis420
Smash Journeyman
This is definetly an interesting update. Im curious as to how big the knockback will be (ganons dair, or zeldas dair?) I hope that player sizes will come into effect as well, so if you have G&W footstooling (gotta get use to that term) Bowser, then it will not have much knockback at all because of the weight differential...But in the same light, would that mean that a Bowser ftstl on G&W would have a large knockback??? I dont know, this update makes me wonder. If done correctly, I think it could be pretty good, and a ftstl meteor spike could be a satisfying kill, but if it is not done correctly, then it might be broken with faster lighter players like fox. WS-ftstl ftw???
Wavedashing and Shffling were never meant to be actual moves. The developers invented air dodges and character friction. The players discovered that you could utilise the two into Wavedashing.
The developers invented Fast Falling, L-cancelling and Short Hopping. We discovered SHFLLING.
These two professional techniques were discovered after SSBM was released. No question about that.
The Footstool Jump has been incorporated into SSBB. Therefore it was actually meant to exist.
However, looking at it again, i'll agree with you. It won't be possible to turn off Footstool Jumps. (This makes me sad)
You can really affect the opponents movements, because all it requires is a short-hop towards the other player and a jump straight after. After that, tremendous amounts of lag ensue as you see the opponent wobble up and down trying to recover from the Footstool. This just slows down the pace of smashing.
I'm not being narrow minded about this, i'm evaluating how competive Smash goes. Some b*stard will Footstool a player, therefore producing lag frames and taking advantage of their opponent's sproings, kicking the face out of them.
It's a technique, but it prevents any form of recovery.
Actually, read the post above yours. It makes a lot of sense.
I think that weight, maybe even relative weight, will play a big role here.
So big, heavy characters might actually be at an advantage.
Bowser's footstool, if he has it, would logically be quite the meteor.
Caleb Wolfbrand
Smash Master
This reminds me of Sakurai saying about improving air combat or whatever.
I've been saying that all morning about the havoc engine
and yes TRC, Air battles will be so much cooler now
ness4life
Smash Journeyman
I love the idea and can't wait to use it, but couldn't they have thought up a better name than "Footstool Jump"? Sakurai should fire the man that thought of its name.
yeah but the bigger characters have always been at a disadvatnage...they just slightly cleaned it up a bit more with DK in melee
EDIT: forget what i said, i only just read these other posts
ness4life
Smash Journeyman
Do not diss the almighty footstool jump, or I shall smite you into the abyss.
lol, jk about the name. it's alright.
lol, jk about the name. it's alright.
it could have been the "Mario Hop"
GameAngel64
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, I was thinking it's gonna turn SSBB into like Mario Party, i.e. those mini-games where you wanna knock people off the sides and you can stun them by jumping on their heads, so everyone is jumping around and punching like mad.
Lemon Drop
Smash Lord
Man last night I couldn't even get ont he smashboards site...
This update explains why DK made that funny face yesterday.
This update explains why DK made that funny face yesterday.
Marilink
Smash Journeyman
I like this in the air quite a bit, but on the ground it looks a little dumb.
The plus side is that on the ground it wouldn't be hard to avoid.
The plus side is that on the ground it wouldn't be hard to avoid.
Database crash.
That's what I said. It would be super-easy to dodge on the ground; just WD out of the way, or even Up-smash/Up-tilt. Even if you're in the air, and someone is about to Footstool you into oblivion, just use your Up-B recovery move to cancel out the Footstool...
Dragonboy2k4
Smash Ace
Wow...And to account on the fact that I hop around already 90% of the time with my main Mario.That tech right there opens up HUGE doors for more potienial follow ups.Iam pretty sure weight is almost gonna be a factor in it all,not to forget to mention that this balances the *** outta this game now since its a universal technique.Everyones got a meteor now..Btw,did this site crashed or something last night? I remember we were giving that listen on "skeet",then next thing I know"ERROR FROM MCFOX<ERROR UP THE ASER MATE<DATABASE KNOCKED YOU THE *** OUT!"
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