Sharky
Smash Master
scatz only found out about the spacing thing at apex (at least that's the impression I got from his reaction to my explaining it during your set with kismet), and idk if he's done anything since then, or if anyone else has.
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- Thread starter Scarlet Jile
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I only know if we grabbed Falco while we're at the edge of the stage we mostly can't get the spike but the Egglay.
The reason I was surprised that it worked is cause spacing from the ledge shouldn't matter considering that you'll now have frames to get from your position to the ledge. I tested the simplest spot: Yoshi being directly on top of the ledge, and it doesn't work against Falco or MK. If it is gauranteed from a specific area, then someone would need to test where the area is and how big our margin is.
Lastly, I barely do the GR on Falco cause I often mess up the timing. Kismet had forgotten about it since it was long ago that I did it.
Lastly, I barely do the GR on Falco cause I often mess up the timing. Kismet had forgotten about it since it was long ago that I did it.
RaptorTEC
Smash Champion
@Slush Thats the point though it has to be a certain distance. Not on the edge.
There's a lot of mixed answers and none of them are really clear. I'm going to a tourney today so whenever I get a free tv I'll just do it to a CPU MK on FD and upload the replay. Waitwut... Nvm I'll ask someone to choose MK and try to avoid the spike. That's probably a lot better xD
There's a lot of mixed answers and none of them are really clear. I'm going to a tourney today so whenever I get a free tv I'll just do it to a CPU MK on FD and upload the replay. Waitwut... Nvm I'll ask someone to choose MK and try to avoid the spike. That's probably a lot better xD
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Just tell them to hold back and air dodge.
Delta-cod
Smash Hero
As long as AD gives MK invincibility earlier than Uair, sure.
Anyways, I think spacing from the ledge might help because being able to run a tiny bit before running off the stage might let us close the gap to prevent them from getting too far away. I've actually always had this belief, lol.
Anyways, I think spacing from the ledge might help because being able to run a tiny bit before running off the stage might let us close the gap to prevent them from getting too far away. I've actually always had this belief, lol.
Wait... Meta Knight?@Slush Thats the point though it has to be a certain distance. Not on the edge.
There's a lot of mixed answers and none of them are really clear. I'm going to a tourney today so whenever I get a free tv I'll just do it to a CPU MK on FD and upload the replay. Waitwut... Nvm I'll ask someone to choose MK and try to avoid the spike. That's probably a lot better xD
RaptorTEC
Smash Champion
Tested it out. Not guaranteed. Just a gimmick if they don't react fast enough,
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
You know what i DO want tested, I wanna know if the GR > fair on the ledge of Lylat is guaranteed if we release Falco while the ledge is tilting down, I have a feeling that's guaranteed. Btw, I mean while the ledge is in the process of moving downwards.
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Deleted member 189823
Guest
I never thought I would post here, but since I am really a part of the Yoshi family, I have to.
My crappy Yoshi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWyt_2qnQ54
My crappy Yoshi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWyt_2qnQ54
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Deleted member
Guest
Thats the crappiest yoshi ive ever seen.
You arent even using yoshi!
You arent even using yoshi!
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Deleted member 189823
Guest
LOL
Silly me.
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPzhQUO4wPY&list=UUDZfe4ESZxxMNBWWNLeACPg&index=1&feature=plcp
Silly me.
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPzhQUO4wPY&list=UUDZfe4ESZxxMNBWWNLeACPg&index=1&feature=plcp
Sharky
Smash Master
before I get into the issues, I will say that I did see some fairly adorable stuff, swei. Once you rid of a few things you'll be really solid. Saw some nice dash grab spacing, a few jab mix-ups (jab to dash grab to punish the roll? I like. XD ), and every now and then some other solid mix-ups. It's a good start, for sure.
that said, stop airdodging so much, spotdodge less, stop moving towards the opponent after every hit, and stop using fair so much to approach. Try nairing through more of his quick small knock back stuff rather than airdodging to the ground, and don't be afraid to back off and reset a situation if it gets hairy.
that said, stop airdodging so much, spotdodge less, stop moving towards the opponent after every hit, and stop using fair so much to approach. Try nairing through more of his quick small knock back stuff rather than airdodging to the ground, and don't be afraid to back off and reset a situation if it gets hairy.
Nikes
Smash Lord
Could I have some critique plz? :D
The link wont work, so look for "yoshi (nikes) vs sheik (apollo) 2"
^ This was before I learnt to DI etc (probs a month ago XD), but the same thing would still happen next time I face this guy so halp plz? :]
Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXFAsrGeK9I < A recent game
The link wont work, so look for "yoshi (nikes) vs sheik (apollo) 2"
^ This was before I learnt to DI etc (probs a month ago XD), but the same thing would still happen next time I face this guy so halp plz? :]
Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXFAsrGeK9I < A recent game
Quick critique before I sleep. I'll see if I can't do a better one later on.
Stop mashing your controller to get moves out. They don't come out any faster that way.
Understand when and where to use moves during matches. Best way to start that is to learn to think throughout your matches (you'll be slower naturally), then learn to place those reactions/methods/w/e into muscle memory so that all you need is a audio/visual cue to make it happen.
Learn to react to movements and attacks. Whiff punishing is crucial to any fighting game.
On a positive note: You were showing that you were trying to think around mid match (2nd stock). Yet, in certain situations, you panicked and mashed A (jab), Cstick (Dsmash), or w/e else to get them out of that position. Don't do that. (if you want, I can explain why later)
Sleepy, so I'll get to it another time unles this is good for you.
Swei, I'll do you also when I get the chance. Ya'll gonna see bricks getting **** out from notes/comments about your play.
Stop mashing your controller to get moves out. They don't come out any faster that way.
Understand when and where to use moves during matches. Best way to start that is to learn to think throughout your matches (you'll be slower naturally), then learn to place those reactions/methods/w/e into muscle memory so that all you need is a audio/visual cue to make it happen.
Learn to react to movements and attacks. Whiff punishing is crucial to any fighting game.
On a positive note: You were showing that you were trying to think around mid match (2nd stock). Yet, in certain situations, you panicked and mashed A (jab), Cstick (Dsmash), or w/e else to get them out of that position. Don't do that. (if you want, I can explain why later)
Sleepy, so I'll get to it another time unles this is good for you.
Swei, I'll do you also when I get the chance. Ya'll gonna see bricks getting **** out from notes/comments about your play.
Nikes
Smash Lord
Cheers for the feedback Scatz, very appreciated 
Which video were you critiquing by the way? Oh, I should've mentioned, the second video was a wifi match, a jittery one at that, so jabs and Dsmash seemed like the most reliable thing to do then. Doesn't matter though, I now know my next steps toward improvement, thanks again
And yeah explanation would be nice thanks, the more knowledge the better right?
Which video were you critiquing by the way? Oh, I should've mentioned, the second video was a wifi match, a jittery one at that, so jabs and Dsmash seemed like the most reliable thing to do then. Doesn't matter though, I now know my next steps toward improvement, thanks again And yeah explanation would be nice thanks, the more knowledge the better right?
Delta-cod
Smash Hero
The link to your first video is broken, most likely because there's a three letter string where the "***" is that is censored on the website.
Nikes
Smash Lord
Huh, didn't even notice, thanks for pointing that out Delta. 'Fixed' it sorta 
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Deleted member 189823
Guest
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Deleted member
Guest
^You arent even using yoshis best move
Egg lay.
kthx
OP aerial command grabs, learn itt.
Egg lay.
kthx
OP aerial command grabs, learn itt.
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Deleted member 189823
Guest
Yeah, I want to do it like Zudenka does but I don't even understand what he's doing. I don't know how to use Egg lay well.
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Deleted member
Guest
Go into training mode. Practice pivot egg lay, turnaround egglay, and djc egg lay.
And the rest is just imaginitive stuff you can do withit.
And the rest is just imaginitive stuff you can do withit.
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Deleted member 189823
Guest
What is the difference between pivot egglay and turnaround egglay? So far, I know how to do DJC Egglay.
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Deleted member
Guest
When you pivot egg lay, yoshis momentum changes. When you turnaround egg lay, yoshi continues going the same way he was going, he just turns around and egg lays.
Its about the timing of the control stick and when you press B. I cant type out exactly the difference, i just do it cuz its muscle memory (even without playing for 6 months its still ingrained.) Just play around with it.
Its about the timing of the control stick and when you press B. I cant type out exactly the difference, i just do it cuz its muscle memory (even without playing for 6 months its still ingrained.) Just play around with it.
Delta-cod
Smash Hero
Pivot (or B reversal) Egg Lay is when you press B THEN tap the control stick in the opposite direction Yoshi's facing. Turn around Egg Lay is when you tap the opposite direction, THEN tap B.
Sharky
Smash Master
and when you mix the two together crazy yoshi **** goes down
and then there's djc pivot turn-around egglay. So yeah...learn and enjoy =P
and then there's djc pivot turn-around egglay. So yeah...learn and enjoy =P
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Deleted member
Guest
Yea the RDJC pivot turnaround basically is the greatest thing ever.
RaptorTEC
Smash Champion
I so wanna implement that to my game :3
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Deleted member
Guest
Its so freaking difficult because the momentum switches are so fast that like it doesnt even have time to mindgame, it just looks silly.
Depster
Smash Champion
I love egg lay advanced movements <3
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Deleted member 189823
Guest
I'll learn Egg lay advanced trix and be an hero. (:
Depster
Smash Champion
Please don't become an hero... We're not paying for your funeral.
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Deleted member 189823
Guest
w00t, I'm doing it. x3
It's like Zudenka does it.
We are teh pwnz0rz.
It's like Zudenka does it.
We are teh pwnz0rz.
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Deleted member 189823
Guest
Nice match, Bigman.
Depster
Smash Champion
Aw, I just noticed that my in person matches aren't on the list =[ They're still like a year old or more, so there's like no point in linking them I guess.
Scarlet Jile
Smash Lord
That's because no one loves you, Depster.
Not even your parents.
Not even your parents.
~Firefly~
Smash Hero
Came out of the depths of Maine just for that, too. That's gotta sting.