Video Thread: Now in Regular Definition!

[Lukingordex]

Thx,I appreciate the critique.

I have noticed that my shield heally sucks,but I am trying to improve this.

Also,I use Wii Remote,is better to me to try to change my controller?

 

[Sharky]

It's better for you to burn that one in a fire and then get a gcn, yes.

 

[Lukingordex]

Is classic controller viable?

I don't like nunchuks because I have broken 5 nunchuks playing Mario Kart Wii and 1 doing a Ness' PKT2.

 

[Sharky]

Game cube controller is best, followed by classic.

 

[Z'zgashi]

I dont see why everyone thinks the GC is so much better than the classic, they really are pretty much the same exact thing. Imo, theyre equal.

 

[Airslash]

I've swapped between the two four times.

They are pretty equal, and there are a lot of variations for the GCC.

Madcats, Game.dk/Game.se (or Gamestop for USA) Gearz, Nintendo, Burnout etc.

However, it's all in the eye of the beholder.

Also, I should upload a video I lost in within a few hours.

 

[Scatz]

CC isn't as good as GC just because of one reason:

Wiimote drops inputs/connections during matches.

@Lukin: Get used to playing either CC or GC then we can talk. Wiimote will make anyone play like *** cause it's extremely limited in everything.

 

[Sharky]

I just like the grip way more than the cc

 

[Delta-cod]

GCC has a godlike feel in my hand. Can't say the same for the CC.

 

[Bazooka Joe]

I was watching videos on ETS and platform canceling . . . should I turn tap jump off even though I've always played with it on?

 

[Sharky]

I would say it's not necessary but recommended. Firefly plays with tap jump on and does very well.

 

[RaptorTEC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NptyihpXmE
This is concerning the whole Yoshi vs Falco thing. I know i won this match, but honestly I should have lost if it weren't for the gimmicky spikes. So yeah please critique and give input on the mu.

 

[Deleted member]

Raptor you play weird (not in a bad way, just i was like wut)
Ill critique in a bit.

But at a glance, i thought it was pretty solid except the first kill he got could have easily been avoided (easy to say after the fact obviously) if you just rising airdodge out of dthrow.

I saw no falco shutting down yoshi in that match lol.
I saw him outplaying you a lot in certain parts of the match and your sloppiness letting him come back (up a stock at low percent and attacking shield/landing in front of shield? tisk tisk raptor, tisk tisk).

If thats what kietaro was doing the whole time to make delta think the matchup is unwinnable, well, i cant say i agree.

I thought kietaro would be doing something that i would be like "o god, ive never played a falco who does this" based on what you guys were saying o_o

But kietaro just plays normally and is a pretty good player lol

Those spikes arent gimmicks, they are part of the matchup. How can you say its -3 when we can do that to falco (altho the last 1 looked escapable) XD

Ill do more later.

 

[RaptorTEC]

As I said earlier in this thread, the way Keitaro played against both of us on game 3 is what should be looked at if you wanna see a Falco playing the mu correctly. Keitaro barely camped this game.. Unfortunately, my game 3 against Keitaro wasn't saved >_> This is more for advice.

And they're gimmicks because they can be avoided.

 

[1PokeMastr]

Raptor.. You've come a long long way.

 

[Deleted member]

Alright fair enough

I dont think its unreasonable to get a gimp a set, though. And thats fairly significant.

Spike aint the only thing yoshi can do. Grabbing out of side b, etc.


Btw, fun tip, instead of trying to downair or utilt or whatever you do when falco is gonna side b on the stage, run away and shield. When it hits your shield, sheild drop punish with jab, ftilt, dsmash, whatever.

Works very well, especailly cuz u can scare him into going for the ledge after a few punishes like that and then edgehog.

 

[Delta-cod]

Socks, I'd just like to say that the shutdown thing that Keitaro did to me was more of a him just camping the BALLS off me game 3. I do agree with your analysis of the match Raptor posted, though.

 

[RaptorTEC]

Well socks I guess after hearing so many people call me and Yoshi in general gimmicky I sometimes believe it. Thanks for the tips.

Also, Delta I'm gonna text Vinnie and see if he can send me the replays cause I don't think he will upload them himself.

Thanks, Poke.

 

[Sinister Slush]

So just cause something can be avoided its a gimmick?

 

[Delta-cod]

Well socks I guess after hearing so many people call me and Yoshi in general gimmicky I sometimes believe it. Thanks for the tips.

Also, Delta I'm gonna text Vinnie and see if he can send me the replays cause I don't think he will upload them himself.

Thanks, Poke.

Please do. Get the ones of me vs. Minty, too.

 

[Deleted member]

edge cancelled eggs are legit the biggest gimmick ever.

Nobody should ever get hit by them XD

 

[Yikarur]

I disagree
edge cancelled eggs are awesome

 

[Delta-cod]

Edge canceled eggs are effective.

The fact that I use them to anger people is the biggest gimmick I've ever created.

 

[Deleted member]

I didnt say they arent the greatest thing ever.
Because they are.

Im just saying that nobody should ever get hit with one =]

 

[RaptorTEC]

So just cause something can be avoided its a gimmick?

When it's a spike out of GR on Falco, yes.

 

[Sinister Slush]

It's not even guaranteed.

 

[Z'zgashi]

...That was his point...

 

[Sinister Slush]

Despite me not really paying attention to my previous post since I was using someone's laptop and just trying to catch up to everything I missed the past three days, I don't think that was his entire point gashi.
Unless you're in his head and reading his exact thoughts to where it completely was his point.

 

[Z'zgashi]

I didnt say it was his ENTIRE point, I just meant that he was aware of that and it was one of the reasons he said that.

 

[Deleted member]

I thought at a certain point it is guarenteed?

 

[Z'zgashi]

Air releases always release the same distance regardless of percentage, so the damage shouldnt effect it at all. Also, it's worth mentioning that if you grab Falco without his double jump, his only options are to instantly phantasm or fire bird, and if he does either, fair is guaranteed. It's just that if Falco holds back after being released, just like Ganon, it's not guaranteed.

 

[RaptorTEC]

Wow Slush.. Delta, Vinnie said he would send me the replays on July when hes back home.

 

[Delta-cod]

Air releases always release the same distance regardless of percentage, so the damage shouldnt effect it at all. Also, it's worth mentioning that if you grab Falco without his double jump, his only options are to instantly phantasm or fire bird, and if he does either, fair is guaranteed. It's just that if Falco holds back after being released, just like Ganon, it's not guaranteed.

This^

Wow Slush.. Delta, Vinnie said he would send me the replays on July when hes back home.

Yay.

 

[RaptorTEC]

To be clear Slush that was entirely my point.

 

[Deleted member]

Air releases always release the same distance regardless of percentage, so the damage shouldnt effect it at all. Also, it's worth mentioning that if you grab Falco without his double jump, his only options are to instantly phantasm or fire bird, and if he does either, fair is guaranteed. It's just that if Falco holds back after being released, just like Ganon, it's not guaranteed.

Oh alright.
I didnt mean at a certain damage, i meant like if you grab him right before the edge?
Maybe thats 2008 talkin tho haha

I usually just try to grab out of double jump tho.

 

[RaptorTEC]

If it's a certain distance away from the edge a GR to spike is guaranteed on MK. Not sure if same principles work on Falco. Heck I'm not even sure if what I just said is true but it seems to work for me 100% when it's a certain distance. Am I just getting lucky?

 

[Deleted member]

Yea i was thinking about MK and maybe the same holds true?

And i land GR spike on falco kind of a lot but sometimes it doesnt work so im never sure XD

 

[RaptorTEC]

^Exactly xD

Someone clear this up because I'm sure a few others aren't entirely sure either.

 

[Sharky]

IDK if anyone's ever ACTUALLY tested that. I think it works, personally, but again, idk for sure.

 

[Delta-cod]

Didn't we test it before and find out it wasn't guaranteed?