Poltergust
Smash Master
Uh... ._.
I'm scared now. If this ever turns out to be true, then I'll always have Zelda to back me up. >.>
I'm scared now. If this ever turns out to be true, then I'll always have Zelda to back me up. >.>
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Video Thread: Now in Regular Definition!
- Thread starter Scarlet Jile
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CRASHiC
Smash Hero
I'm sorry polt
Metatitan
Smash Master
Even if it is true the standing infinite is banned in most states. Florida doesn't ban it because they're stupid as hell.
Mmac
Smash Lord
To me, It's either a frame perfect grab, or something that the Yoshi did to cause it to happen. If it was simple, then this would have been found years ago.
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
It took us forever to find out how to chain grab Luigi. We didn't find that out till late last year. Now, Pro DDD's do that with ease, even though it is frame perfect shield cancel grab.
Metatitan
Smash Master
Regardless his standing infinite is banned at most tournies. So I honestly don't see how it matters.
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
Then we small step 
bigman40
Smash Master
Well now we have a true meaning when we tell people to, "Don't get grabbed" lol Either way, I'm gonna be watching out for it since I normally camp more towards the edges and platforms.
Silent Beast
Smash Journeyman
Even though you failed to recover, the first kill in game 1 was nice. Those last two deaths in game 2 were quite unfortunate. And at the very end of game 2, when Luigi was dropping back down onto the stage, it looks like you guessed right in drawing out an airdodge, but it's too bad you tried to use fair (and missed) to punish instead of uair (which would have killed).
I thought you overused nair when you were coming back onto the stage, especially when Luigi was jumping at you; while you did use the armor nicely a couple times, just using uair would have been safer. Examples at 0:37 in game 1, and 1:13, 1:21 (though this was a dair), 2:22 (was an uair, but it could have been spaced better to avoid taking damage) in game 2.
Dair to egglay out of the ledgehop (game 2, 1:32) was quite nifty; I'd never thought of that before. A lot of times after I dair up onto the stage like that and go past them, I try bair, rather than the typical nair, but it doesn't come out in time. I'll try egg lay.
Obviously not. The Yoshi egg rolled at a shielding Dedede.
I've never been to Taco Bell.
Metatitan
Smash Master
Even though you failed to recover, the first kill in game 1 was nice. Those last two deaths in game 2 were quite unfortunate. And at the very end of game 2, when Luigi was dropping back down onto the stage, it looks like you guessed right in drawing out an airdodge, but it's too bad you tried to use fair (and missed) to punish instead of uair (which would have killed).
I thought you overused nair when you were coming back onto the stage, especially when Luigi was jumping at you; while you did use the armor nicely a couple times, just using uair would have been safer. Examples at 0:37 in game 1, and 1:13, 1:21 (though this was a dair), 2:22 (was an uair, but it could have been spaced better to avoid taking damage) in game 2.
Dair to egglay out of the ledgehop (game 2, 1:32) was quite nifty; I'd never thought of that before. A lot of times after I dair up onto the stage like that and go past them, I try bair, rather than the typical nair, but it doesn't come out in time. I'll try egg lay.
Obviously not. The Yoshi egg rolled at a shielding Dedede.
I've never been to Taco Bell.
*dies from horror*
Poltergust
Smash Master
I haven't either. I hate tacos. >_>
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
Taco Bell is too good...most of the time
Scarlet Jile
Smash Lord
Taco Bell is good... if you swallowed a razor blade and are too poor to see a doctor.
In other news, been super busy (hey, it's my Birthday), will get this thread up to date by the end of the week.
In other news, been super busy (hey, it's my Birthday), will get this thread up to date by the end of the week.
Come on guys, I don't even live in a country that has Taco Bell and I've been there!
Next time you see a TB, you need to get in there, even if its just to try it out.
Anyone who thinks Taco Bell is bad should try one of the fast food places over here... fail. The only decent place we have here is Subway.
<3 Taco Bell.
Metatitan
Smash Master
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Deleted member
Guest
That was an offline friendly, just FYI.
**** **** ****, sorry bout the quality.
**** **** ****, sorry bout the quality.
Metatitan
Smash Master
Your gw is better stocky <3
Bwett
Smash Ace
Just to let yall know, UTD Zac and I tested the standing infinite. It's not possible. We used frame by frame and test dash grab to standing, shield grab, standing grab, using DI and SDI. It doesn't work.
Airborne
Smash Lord
wow that rumor came and went while i was away from SWF... o.o
Poltergust
Smash Master
OK, good. So I guess what was shown in that video was the fault of the Yoshi player?
Bwett
Smash Ace
We think it's from the predictive algorithms of online play.
Good stuff.
Depster
Smash Champion
Vs. Luigi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuUCUTa41WU
Vs. Luigi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc9gYP9Et2M&feature=channel
Vs. ROB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op_RwAs3M5w&feature=channel
These are all online, but still, I got some vids up. I need help against luigi...
Vs. Luigi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc9gYP9Et2M&feature=channel
Vs. ROB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op_RwAs3M5w&feature=channel
These are all online, but still, I got some vids up. I need help against luigi...
Metatitan
Smash Master
Aside from the sandbagginess of wifail, you look like you're doing the right stuff, you're just not spacing it right. Space better and be a little less predictable.
Depster
Smash Champion
What should I do about the luigi matchup? That one just seems to be killing me lately
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Deleted member
Guest
You kept trying to overpower him in the air, which was dumb. In fact, in general, you seemed to not be baiting attacks and punishing, you would sorta just throw out spaced moves ish and get out prioritized. Dont be impatient, try some full hops with no attack and see how they react.
Not bad tho, just play with good people more and you'll catch on.
Not bad tho, just play with good people more and you'll catch on.
Ok, the first thing you desperatly need to work on is your defences. You rarely seemed to use much in thw way of defence, I barely saw any shielding at all and even spotdodges were few and far between, your aidodging was a bit better but you really need to work on your timing for that. The biggest problem seems to be that in situations where you should be avoiding or blocking an attack to allow you to counter attack, you are instead just going straight in with annother attack and getting punished for it.
There were a few patterns in your play that became noticable and predictable. Your Bairs becames predictable and you didn't mix up the approach much with other stuff. There were a couple of instances where u repeatadly went in for Nairs where the opponant could see it coming a mile away.
ROLLING. You rolled. FAR too much, you need to get out of the habbit of rolling too much and at the wrong times, I saw you rolling into the opponant and at the edge of the stage, it serves no purpose but to get you punished. Really learn to rely on the other defence options.
You often rushed in with a Dash grab at very expected and obvious times, dash grabs should only be attemoted when u are sure that you will get it as it is far too puishable. What made it worse was that you seemed to establish a pattern of rolling backwards after a missed Dash grab.
Another biggie is the complete lack of Egglay, egglay is very important in mixing up approaches to force your opponant into thinking twice about shielding allowing you to be more successful with other moves, put you in a better position and throw your opponant off balance. DJC egglay would have been very usefull in those matches.
You charged smashes >.<
What makes it worse is that you didn't even charge smashes at times when it would be less of a bad idea.
You barely did much of anything on the ground, remember Yoshi has a nice range on Dtilt and Ftilt. Ftilt actually attacks faster than Utilt. You really need to work on spacing tilts and aerials better on the gound better, try to use Dtilt more and learn the spacing. Don't rely on Nair so much as it requires very close range and should be saved for specific situations where it is called for, rarely approaching.
Alot of the egg use was very nice and although you became very predictable with Bair, you got it in very nicely a lot as well as some well placed pivot grabs.
Things to improve and work on:
1. First and formost work on defence, don't be so aggressive and let the enemy come to u a bit more. Don't always go all at at whatever he throws at you. Get rid of roll and learn to rely on SHAD, shield and spotdodges.
2. Work Egglay in a lot more.
3. MIX IT UP. Your style becomes predictable and repetetive so try to be a bit more fresh with your usage of moves and general gameplay. There are some great moves that you neglect a lot and others used at the wrong times.
4. Establish a presence on the ground and work up some good ground play taking advantage of DJCegglay, tilts and Jab and relying on smashes a lot less, saving them for when u really need them to preserve the power. Also try Dsmash a lot more, its a really fast more, gets them out of your face and bits twice in two sides of Yoshi so its a great ground move when used correctly.
And please, whatever you do don't take any of this the wrong way. Just offering my advice and critique, you seem to have a good grasp on the basics of Yoshi play and show good potential of progressing to a good standard with Yoshi.
There were a few patterns in your play that became noticable and predictable. Your Bairs becames predictable and you didn't mix up the approach much with other stuff. There were a couple of instances where u repeatadly went in for Nairs where the opponant could see it coming a mile away.
ROLLING. You rolled. FAR too much, you need to get out of the habbit of rolling too much and at the wrong times, I saw you rolling into the opponant and at the edge of the stage, it serves no purpose but to get you punished. Really learn to rely on the other defence options.
You often rushed in with a Dash grab at very expected and obvious times, dash grabs should only be attemoted when u are sure that you will get it as it is far too puishable. What made it worse was that you seemed to establish a pattern of rolling backwards after a missed Dash grab.
Another biggie is the complete lack of Egglay, egglay is very important in mixing up approaches to force your opponant into thinking twice about shielding allowing you to be more successful with other moves, put you in a better position and throw your opponant off balance. DJC egglay would have been very usefull in those matches.
You charged smashes >.<
What makes it worse is that you didn't even charge smashes at times when it would be less of a bad idea.
You barely did much of anything on the ground, remember Yoshi has a nice range on Dtilt and Ftilt. Ftilt actually attacks faster than Utilt. You really need to work on spacing tilts and aerials better on the gound better, try to use Dtilt more and learn the spacing. Don't rely on Nair so much as it requires very close range and should be saved for specific situations where it is called for, rarely approaching.
Alot of the egg use was very nice and although you became very predictable with Bair, you got it in very nicely a lot as well as some well placed pivot grabs.
Things to improve and work on:
1. First and formost work on defence, don't be so aggressive and let the enemy come to u a bit more. Don't always go all at at whatever he throws at you. Get rid of roll and learn to rely on SHAD, shield and spotdodges.
2. Work Egglay in a lot more.
3. MIX IT UP. Your style becomes predictable and repetetive so try to be a bit more fresh with your usage of moves and general gameplay. There are some great moves that you neglect a lot and others used at the wrong times.
4. Establish a presence on the ground and work up some good ground play taking advantage of DJCegglay, tilts and Jab and relying on smashes a lot less, saving them for when u really need them to preserve the power. Also try Dsmash a lot more, its a really fast more, gets them out of your face and bits twice in two sides of Yoshi so its a great ground move when used correctly.
And please, whatever you do don't take any of this the wrong way. Just offering my advice and critique, you seem to have a good grasp on the basics of Yoshi play and show good potential of progressing to a good standard with Yoshi.
Depster
Smash Champion
Yeah I am way too aggro and once I get into matches I forget about the habit... I wish I had more vids to show, like I played this MK and did pretty well later today, but as of now those three are all I'm in.
I played in an online tournament on AllisBrawl a few days ago and won. I went against ADN's Pit in the grand finals and they were pretty good matches. Here's all 5 of 'em. As usual, critiques are appreciated since I'm going to Genesis and I need to get my Yoshi in top shape before going. But remember there's wifi lag so I can count multiple times when I did something and the wifi said I did something different, but whatever. Anyway enjoy 'em:
Game 1 => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMuO7Qh-3eI <== tech chase combo on his last life for 97% unanswered damage
Game 2 => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZcqvoF5gwc <== Grabbed him out of his up-B and watched him fall to his death.
Game 3 => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYdKhg77LFg <== Extremely close (both over 150% on last life).
Game 4 => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvpOpUPWuyE <== Kind of a funny match. I got footstooled and he SD'd.
Game 5 => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5eYzuw8nWM <== Best ending I could have hoped for. I get well over 200% on my last life.
And Scarlet, these are all vs. Pit.
Game 1 => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMuO7Qh-3eI <== tech chase combo on his last life for 97% unanswered damage
Game 2 => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZcqvoF5gwc <== Grabbed him out of his up-B and watched him fall to his death.
Game 3 => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYdKhg77LFg <== Extremely close (both over 150% on last life).
Game 4 => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvpOpUPWuyE <== Kind of a funny match. I got footstooled and he SD'd.
Game 5 => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5eYzuw8nWM <== Best ending I could have hoped for. I get well over 200% on my last life.
And Scarlet, these are all vs. Pit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyQzWGRd7V0&feature=channel SiN (Yoshi) vs Rated (Snake)
I might be biased because he's my friend, but seriously, his Yoshi's so goooooooood.
I might be biased because he's my friend, but seriously, his Yoshi's so goooooooood.
SOVAman
Smash Hero
The tag SiN when you use yoshi doesn't really work
his Yoshi is alright
Don't really understand where you're coming from (or where you're headed)... But he's been using that name since before Brawl was announced.
Just ignore the name.
Scarlet Jile
Smash Lord
Update partially complete. Start giving me some hall of fame votes.
In the mean-time, no Hall of Fame!
In the mean-time, no Hall of Fame!
Silent Beast
Smash Journeyman
Nice win. You read him well off the ledge a number of times, when you'd down-B him, and a nice 0-97 in game 1.
Too often you'd either nair or dair while dropping down to the stage, for which your opponent would either shield or move out of the way, and punish you. For attacking while coming back down, (reverse) egg lay's a nice mixup. You could also try dairing or nairing but making sure to land outside his range (you don't even have to hit him), and see if you can bait an attack out that you can punish (like at 2:33 in game 1). Be more careful with your spacing when approaching with bair. Sometimes you'd bair past him, and you were able to punish his shield grab attempt because you were behind him, but you did get shield grabbed a bunch of times. Even when you did land behind him, you still could have been punished. Egg lay is useful when your opponent is shield-happy, and it forces your opponent to spot dodge, which, in turn, gets beaten by bair; you should use it more often.
bigman40
Smash Master
Got sorry *** matches for my Yoshi yesterday. Upload later
Metatitan
Smash Master
How about you post the matches now since youtube likes to take forever?
bigman40
Smash Master
No cause I have to first get them off (it's a decent amount), then I have to convert them (it's about 10 mins to each conversion), then I upload it to youtube. So they won't be up till later tonight. They're not gonna matter anyway, I sucked in them and didn't care after playing 15 matches straight in tourney.