VaNz Stuff.. about Peach (Tactical Discussion)

[_Keno_]

Wedding Peach or Daisy for me. And which of shiek's aerials are beat out by peach's dash attack?

 

[thesage]

I beat voodoo in tournament yesterday. I think me and mafia are the new upcoming peach players.

We should start a rivalry or something. lolol.

 

[Teczer0]

Rivalries make a tourney scene so much fun =D.

Cheap peach - Sheik's aerials all lose to peach's dash attack =(

 

[bladeofapollo]

That's a tad misleading.

Peach's dash attack goes under almost all of her aerials, but I think Sheik can outspace you w/ a Bair, just cuz that **** (range) is bananas

 

[Teczer0]

It is haha.

I suppose thats true though. My statement is not completely true but it sure feels that way sometimes

 

[bladeofapollo]

Haha. THAT, I can understand.

I have some matches from a tournament this weekend that I'd like you all to look at, but I'm too lazy to link to them right now.

 

[ConnorTheKid]

it's okay, the feedback would consist of people telling you stuff you already know anyways.

 

[MacD]

connor you need to caaaaaalm down

 

[bladeofapollo]

Haha, usually. But there's always at least one nugget of wisdom when people help each other

 

[Rosedemon]

"When you hit someone, keep hitting them."

 

[Cia]

"When you hit someone, keep hitting them."

LOOOOOOL.. That sounds like something I would say.

Also, Sheik's Fair/Bair would most likely beat out/trade with Peach's dash attack. All depends on the timing of the collision.

 

[BladeWise]

I think that the last time I played not-blue Peach in tournament was against Balefire Boy, actually.

Man, that was a long time ago.

 

[aka.carpet003]

so yeah... peach bomber... does anyone have a use for this thing?

 

[john!]

punish spotdodge

recover

create huge balls of fire

what more could you want from a move?

 

[_lemons]

Peach Bomber is a funny punish in friendlies, outside of that and wallbomb recover, no ideeer.

 

[bladeofapollo]

Dsmash-->(missed tech)-->(predict)-->Bomber

Any pratfallen position-->Jab reset-->Bomber

(on FD) Ready... Go!-->Bomber (players 1/3, 2/4, 3/4)

Just watch videos of Vidjo; he makes it work

 

[thesage]

Hey guys some advice plz?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtAdJWWj4Ak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDGC5md5XlQ&feature=related

I didn't really edgeguard Luigi well, but this was like the 2nd luigi I ever played so I'm really inexperienced in that matchup... I was kinda expecting that turnip camping would beat Luigi, but he was able to keep pressure on me all the time.

 

[The Irish Mafia]

yo sage I'll **** you
IT HAS BEGUNNNNNNNNNN

Vanz, I'm gonna try and make it but with finals and massive projects coming up I can't promise anything.

 

[thesage]

Moar Videos of me....

Vs. Plank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfKTkNoz80o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDGtqQWALqw

Vs. G-reg in Crews
:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inu0p1NuvKI

 

[MacD]

against planks fox i noticed your edgeguarding could use some work, like the one time you dsmashed to edgeguard him, you might have wanted to do dair > nair because as you see, you got punished for using dsmash, and that one time he jumped off the stage at 0, should have either tried to bair him, time a fair, or charged a dsmash since he was at 0, charging dsmash when they have to recover like that at 0 can throw off the tech timing so they screw up, edgehogging would have been a good idea had he been lower, but he was still high enough to up-b far above the stage as you see

you did fair dash attack a lot which worked when you got real close to him when he was lasering at you, but when you did a fair farther away, you'd get drilled after the dash attack, if you notice a fox is really jumpy like plank was, consider doing something like fc fair > full hop nair, it'll catch them out of their jumps

 

[thesage]

Thanks macd. Yea my edgeguarding does need some work. Improper edgeguarding cost me the matches vs. Winston and Plank and there was like seven times I messed up edeguarding g-reg. It was my first time in tournament experimenting with offstage edgeguarding. It's actually easier than onstage edgeguarding so I'll do it more often now.

 

[MacD]

i forgot to say, after this last tourney i have officially decided battlefield is like my least favorite stage in the game

i hate it against sheik, falcon, in dittos, and against hugs

i dislike it against marth, ganon, and zhu

also i get battlefielded cause i suck

just felt like sharing, i'm sure i'm one of the few who hates this level with a passion

 

[The Irish Mafia]

I learned the hard way not to dsmash sheik's shield. Wd out -> grab every time lol.

 

[DoH]

Look what I made!

 

[VA]

coool >_<

 

[john!]

that ain't c stick!

 

[The Irish Mafia]

Played through genesis pools like that. not fun >_<

 

[Cia]

foward to the last stock of this match and watch what happens when Sheik hits me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54Z_pEEAqwk

 

[KirbyKaze]

Multiple ICGs.

 

[_lemons]

D'oH: Is that a white controller? Or a silver one that looks white because of the camera flash?

 

[thesage]

Vanz: was that the ceiling glitch?

 

[KirbyKaze]

I already noted that it was.

ICG = Invisible Ceiling Glitch

 

[bladeofapollo]

Yea. ICG's persist until you land on the stage. So as long as you're in the air, they keep happening

 

[The Irish Mafia]

Phanna made a video explaining the ICG in full. Anyone seen the brinstar counter spike? so lolish. Happened to me in tournament.

 

[Cia]

Yea. ICG's persist until you land on the stage. So as long as you're in the air, they keep happening

ooooh, I never knew this. I thought it have something to do with the wind and Sheik being broke haha

 

[VA]

Phanna made a video explaining the ICG in full. Anyone seen the brinstar counter spike? so lolish. Happened to me in tournament.

The lava killed me, it swallowed me whole. I made a face and carried on and won.

 

[Cia]

lol.. he's talking about this @ 2:08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgXrMRQYWuY

 

[ConnorTheKid]

Phanna made a video explaining the ICG in full. Anyone seen the brinstar counter spike? so lolish. Happened to me in tournament.

that happened to me round 3 vs Wobbles....I died at 0% and everything just went downhill from there

 

[MacD]

I thought it have something to do with the wind and Sheik being broke haha

i approve of the bolded statment

 

[thesage]

I don't like brinstar as a cp, but all the Peach players go there so I go there...

Is dk 64 good against spacies? I don't want to be camped...