VaNz Stuff.. about Peach (Tactical Discussion)

[DoH]

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

Yo just got 4th at no johns, pretty happy about that

 

[Wake]

Whoaa... so this is Prometheus.

I have a crudely drawn Peach avatar. Let me touch you.

 

[KirbyKaze]

He gave us fire or something.

By "us" I mean "Mike G".

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

I always thought mike g came first. I need to study my history more

 

[ShroudedOne]

Oh my god.

Vwins is absolutely amazing.

 

[Wake]

Yes. Yes he is.

 

[DoH]

Why the random vwins segue?

 

[ShroudedOne]

I was watching the STYC stream, and saw him being amazing.

Also, wow. Hiemie posted in this thread...namesearch, perhaps?

 

[Hiemie]

I was watching the STYC stream, and saw him being amazing.

Also, wow. Hiemie posted in this thread...namesearch, perhaps?

Haha, no, I have a gland that lets me know.

Also, I didn't know I was a big deal.

 

[DoH]

Hiemie has a google alert

 

[Cia]

excuse me for being ignorant, but I've never heard of Hiemie (except for that guy with the black username) Am I in the presence of an Original? :o

 

[john!]

he is one of the Ancient Ones

 

[Get Low]

Not with a Ke$ha avatar.

/Commits suicide.

 

[DoH]

We have to summon our ancestors

 

[Rosedemon]

OMG!

Its me, DoH and Mccain!

 

[DoH]

Incidentally, this is my 8th year playing this game.

Does this mean I have to be Prue?

 

[MacD]

am i pheobe? i have a feeling you'd make me be her

and who is paige? we kill oh DoH to hang with KK or something?

 

[DoH]

I feel like I'm more Piper than anything. Have you seen my freezing motion?

 

[Rosedemon]

Im prue, DoH is Piper, and Mccain can be Phoebe.

I never liked Paige cuz Prue was the ****.

 

[MacD]

i guess at least i know some martial arts?

and being with demons is fun i guess

 

[DoH]

And you have the most powers until you have them stripped away for playing LOL/personal gain

Also new sets. I played like **** but still won, hey. Also youtube *****es throwing some shade.

vs chops

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWQ7q3mvR7g&feature=plcp

vs Winston

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t82LmqHMl8s&feature=plcp

vs Hax

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzKcW4ubhSE&feature=plcp

vs PC

http://tinyurl.com/pcchrisvsdoh

 

[KirbyKaze]

lol @ censorship on SWF necessitating a tinyurl link

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

So to get better/faster at fc nair/running fc nair i put in a 2nd controller put my handicap at 1 and the dummys at 9 and set the dmg ratio to .5. Then i fc naired for like maybe 30mins then got bored lol.

So besides the getting bored part this seems like a good way to practice and get faster/ more consistent

 

[GhllieShdeKnife]

that is what i do to practice fc nair also practice dd to run to fast fc nair, there is a different timing for jumping if you are in the run animation than if u are in the dash animation cause of the delay jumping from a run.
i think the best practice with peach is to think alot about matchups and mindgames, punishing is pretty easy.
also edgeguarding is very essential to practice the height of instant float

 

[ShroudedOne]

I always come up blank when I try to think of Peach "mindgames." I just think we have a set list of mixups (for example, the whole grab/jab/dsmash thing on shields) that we can cycle through. Maybe I'm just not good enough to see them, but I dunno that we have the qualities that make mindgames possible in other characters.

 

[john!]

give examples of "mindgames" with other characters

 

[Wake]

Has that term ever even been properly defined?

 

[john!]

no, and that's why i'm asking for examples, because i want his definition of "mindgames" (it's easier to give examples of an abstract concept than it is to give a definition)

 

[ShroudedOne]

Yeah, when you asked that, I thought that's what you were getting at. No, it's never really "defined," but an example that comes to mind for me is something like Jigglypuff's empty hops while their opponent is shielding, because she can bait reactions from someone who is expecting Puff to do one thing, and then punish them with something else. If that makes any sense at all.

This is just how I see mindgames, too. I think that referring to them as just "multiple options you can cycle through in any situation, based on how you've conditioned your opponent (or something like that)" works as well. In short, when I here mindgames, I think of tricks that play with your opponent's expectations, and I don't know that Peach has those.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Peach's "mindgames" can be very subtle. Fullhop uair falling nair or fullhop uair FC fair or fullhop uair dj FC dair. Unless they are punishing the uair directly, the opponent must be aware that all of those followups are viable and many more. Peach has the most unique movement patterns in the game and good trading moves in all directions so it can be quite difficult for an opponent to understand exactly what you are intending to do.

 

[Mahone]

Man puff is so lame.. she just ***** peach so hard...

i hate how she does all that stuff that makes this matchup impossible...

of course i already know all that "stuff" that is so annoying and unbeatable, but what is your personal favorite thing puff does to **** peach?

 

[DoH]

Pound on shield

 

[john!]

of course i already know all that "stuff" that is so annoying and unbeatable, but what is your personal favorite thing puff does to **** peach?

ledgehogging me with her getup-roll animation when she's above 100%

boingboingboingboing!

 

[Wake]

Rollout is unstoppable.

 

[Rosedemon]

You can always downsmash rollout

 

[Wake]

You can always downsmash rollout

Oh. My. God. Tyra Storm is right! Peach>>>>Puff.

 

[Rosedemon]

 

[Mahone]

Lololol i tricked you guys so hard...

Thanks for the tips

 

[Silly Kyle]

Most Depressing Ending Ever:

Winner's Finals
Silly Kyle vs. Okami
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3k646WoBlw&feature=g-user-u
lololol

Super clutch ending after getting violated the match before:

Loser's Finals
Silly Kyle vs. Tai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1FVYlteREc&feature=g-user-u