VaNz Stuff.. about Peach (Tactical Discussion)

[Turazrok]

Thing is if you're getting wobbled at earlier percents you should be mashing out. I can understand the wtfbbq grab = death part, it's dumb. But IC's have other cgs, including a peach specific one, and it'll probably lead to death anyways. But the ability to land the grab is sooo hard. I mean on yoshi's if fox grabs you shouldn't you die? As peach?

 

[ShroudedOne]

You can SDI the u-air, but if not, I think you die at like, 60 or something... I've seen Wobbles wait until the 40s or 50s before he starts wobbling, so I dunno if mashing out would work there. And landing a grab as them is difficult, which is why I have to consider that, too.

some people just get on their high horse about camping

most people are just surprised when someone tells them armada camps and then like ok whatever

some people ***** about camping, some don't, it all depends and you just gotta learn to deal with it if you are one of those people who camp

Yeah, I shouldn't really be giving it that much thought, but I just dislike that narrow-minded way of thinking, on both sides.

 

[Turazrok]

40 or 50 is when it's guaranteed I believe. But yeah people shouldn't ***** about camping.

Unless it's something dumb like pichu getting camped by fox.

 

[Brookman]

Maybe it's a really good pichu player >_>

 

[john!]

Lol. I guess Peach is weird. I dunno, she felt rather natural to me when I started toying with her. All I saw Sheik do was needles, tech chase, and fair, and somehow she won. I never understood it to where I could apply it well.

different people do well with different characters. peach has never felt "weird" to me. samus, on the other hand...

So apparently, Armada is a campy player who plays gay all the time and deserves no respect for his Genesis 2 win, cause all he did was camp. That's what I'm hearing from people I know, and I have to say, that bothers me.

What is the big hang up on camping. Okay, so Armada doesn't approach a lot as PEACH. Big deal. Giving him no respect cause his opponents mostly run into him and he punishes them is idiotic. (I'm pointedly ignoring his set vs Hbox).

Maybe it's my Peach main bias speaking, but not only do I see camping as NOT a big deal, I think it's easier to deal with than aggression, and if people were smarter about approaching, and didn't feel like everything had to be so aggro, then maybe people like Armada wouldn't be taking advantage of their approaches.

*sigh*

people hatin' on what they don't understand.

besides, you can't "camp" fox in the true sense of the word, his laser is easily a better projectile for racking up damage than the turnip is. armada does what you're supposed to do with peach: apply constant pressure and wall them off, so they won't be able to laser camp yet won't be able to approach safely.

 

[DoH]

You alls basic *****es. The Sisterhood is flawless

 

[-Vocal-]

You alls basic *****es. The Sisterhood is flawless

Is this actually Armada?

 

[Turazrok]

DoH = DoH lol.

 

[-Vocal-]

DoH = DoH lol.

mm k

 

[eet]

also Armada = Armada

 

[Wake]

haha Sorry MacD. Now that we've established that Armada is in fact Armada, and DoH is indeed DoH, I noticed that Peach's booty owns Doctor Mario.

 

[thesage]

I'm so bad at using bair. How do you do u guys do it. Maybe I should just start spamming it to see how it works.

I just always end up using nair of fair instead.

 

[Wake]

I don't think I understand... Do you just mess up or something?

 

[DoH]

My plan to become Swedish is slowly coming to fruition

 

[Wake]

Why do you want to be Swedish anyways?

 

[thesage]

No like, in what instances should be doing bair. Vanz talks about it a lot, but he just says "use it" basically.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

When i dabbled with peach, bair and nair was all i used at neutral position. Lots of quick float bairs to defend and space and then nairs OoS, to approach, to pressure, to catch jumps, to trade if they ever tried to attack, ect.

oh yeah and dash attack. . .

 

[WaterlessFishie]

What no down smash?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

I dont get on platforms much, but when i do, i choose down smash!

 

[Wake]

haha Peach's dash attack is too good . Shove shove shove.

Bair for edge guarding, bairing oos, fc bairing oos, fc bair-->dsmash is awesome.

Also, in the pool match at Genesis 2, where it was Armada vs Brandon, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGi553bZDz4 (don't know how to link to a specific time), does anyone know how, in the second match against his Falcon (starts 4:50) Armada was doing those uairs to nairs on the platforms? I keep trying, but I never seem to have enough time for the nair to come out, I always land on the platform before the nair gets a chance to come out. Am I somehow not jumping high enough?... what am I doing wrong?!

 

[thesage]

Armada ***** that match wow.

I think he is floating at the top of his jump or something. I know that you can Peach's sh and full hop heights are the same heights of a lot of platforms (annoyingly) so maybe he is floating for the extra air time.

 

[Wake]

Yeah that's what I was thinking, but I'm still not sure... hmm. I'm gonna keep trying different things out.

 

[Bamesy]

LMAO this thread is hilarious! Kudos!

 

[Wake]

The Peach boards are the best boards.

 

[Bamesy]

Every thread in these boards is this good?
I'd have an overdoes of laughage... I better not read into it.

 

[Wake]

Never mind, figured out the uair-->nair thingy. yaay

 

[baka4moé]

wake, u didnt float right? like u just did the aerials fast enough? just checking.

 

[-Vocal-]

So I started playing Peach. My friend who plays Marth rages about how floating makes her hitbox smaller. I like this

 

[john!]

marth can do whatever he wants to a floating peach

what's she gonna do? dair? LOL

 

[Turazrok]

I have no clue how to beat marth.

At all.

 

[baka4moé]

i hate marth. by far my worst mu. what do you do!?

 

[Turazrok]

You switch to sheik.

 

[-Vocal-]

marth can do whatever he wants to a floating peach

what's she gonna do? dair? LOL

I forgot to mention he's worse than I am. I know it's not something that will last, but the fact that her hitbox retracts is still very nice.

Question: this may sound pretty specific, but what is the proper height to float at if I'm trying to Bair > DSmash? I've done it a couple times out of a ground float, but I don't know how high I can go and still have it work as a combo. For example, should Peach's feet be at about his waist?

 

[Wake]

Whaaaat? Don't switch to Sheik, that MU is fine. Just ban Yoshi's Story. That MU is really fun, and I think it's becoming easier for Peach.

 

[Armada]

Battlecow: I like girls =)

I have long hair but I will change that (should have happend long time ago but it didn´t )
And I don´t loke gay **** you

ShroudedOne: Playing deffensive and playing campy is different things.
My Y link is campy and my Peach is deffensive.

The thing is that Peach is so mich better on the deffensive part and it´s not fair to compare her with chars like spacies but most people don´t realize that.

Also I have notice one thing: Most people always try to say they play more aggresive/flashy then they does.

Even if Im playing Falco/Fox and is hella aggresive (My spacies plays that way) many people still say it´s boring (deffensive sometimes) cause some of them are loseing the matches.

When someone arel oseing they like to say (in generall) the other one plays deffensive/gay

Wake: Im doing the Uair late.

 

[Tekk]

When someone arel oseing they like to say (in generall) the other one plays deffensive/gay.

"What do you think about jigglypuff ?"

"GAY" ^_^

 

[john!]

people just call you campy/gay because they don't know how to beat you

you should post here more, armada

 

[baka4moé]

^ i agree with second part

 

[Wake]

Yeah you should post here more Armada! That uair--->nair thing is really cool. Peach is awesome on the defensive, but I don't see how that's being campy... now Armada's Ylink hahahahaha that's another story

Oh, and yeah Baka, no float. It has to do with the timing of the uair.

 

[Armada]

Tekk: Haha =)

I actually read this thread kinda often but Im a bit lazy
Guess I should stop being that and post/help more