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The game is as much a gaming crossover as licensing allows it to be. You could say "no it's not that it's about Nintendo," but what would be the point of doing so? Who are you trying to convince? Nintendo? To change their minds and abandon their decision to pursue third parties?
It's not only 100 that I mention. I would also say that Sonic is 10 times more iconic than Megaman.
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that I'm 100% sure about my estimations. And I understand.
And the award for fastest argument suicide goes tooo...okay, real talk, Mega Man came out three and a half years before Sonic 1 did.
Well, okay, sure, than you just do you.
I hope. Imagine if he really believes what he's saying. Gives me the goosebumps!
That would be a killer assist trophy
Yeah, but Sakurai transformed the Break the Targets! minigame into Target Blast for Smash 4. So technically speaking, we already have Angry Birds in Smash. And we don't have to deal with the annoying birds and pigs. It's brilliant!
It's a way to disguise one's hatred of the roster not exclusively catering to them.
That would actually be pretty cool
Although he’s arguments may be illogical, the date of the release of a game has nothing to do with how iconic a character is.
This is why I'm hoping all the Old Guard wants dry up soon. I want to see more fresh faces in both speculation and the roster itself. I remember being pleasantly surprised by wants like Minecraft Steve, for example, because people in my age group don't normally bring them up. I'm sure there are first-party examples but Steve strikes me as a very new yet very sensible request, the likes of which wouldn't really be seen among mid- to late-20-year-olds and early 30-year-olds.
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After Diablo 4 mobile gaming became a four letter word for most people who enjoy gaming on other platforms. I can see why some people wouldn't want Smash to touch it.
No I'm not trolling. But thanks for warning me.
Well... Ultimate drained the swamp pretty good on old school requests. K. Rool, Simon Belmont, Ridley, Banjo-Kazooie... at this point you're really left with like, Dixie, Skull Kid, Waluigi, Isaac, and Geno for popular character requests that date back to at least the pre-Smash 4 days. The Ultimate speculation period started two years after the Smash 4 one ended, so there wasn't really much time for a lot of new faces to pop up. Think we will see more in Smash 6.
Wich is not much. So far, only 10 characters out of 73 are third-party, and the Mario familly has nine chacaracters (including two clones and one Echo) while Sonic is still alone (not even one Echo) - and I'm not even counting the closely related series that are Yoshi, Wario and Donkey Kong. As long as this doesn't change, it's a Nintendo cross-over with some/several/many guests, no matter who says what.
The point is saying what I believe to be the truth.
Who am I trying to convince? That's a wierd question. The people I'm talking to, off course.
I strongly disagree. First, if we count the base game, out of the six "real" newcomers (not counting Echoes), there was only one third-party. Including the DLC, so far, we're at four third-party for six Nintendo characters. Second and most importantly: the facts are always way more important than the words. If you juge a politician by what he says and not by what he does, or if you trust an advertisement instead of examining the product, you must think everything and everyone is more beautiful than it actually is. We'll see in the future what future Smash look like, but right now, we can only talk about what we have.
I feel your pain. As a Kirby fan, there's a sinking disappointment seeing all these new Kirby games come out, with the hopes of at least one newcomer, but so far we've gone through 3 waves of new fighters (Smash 4, Smash 4 DLC, Ultimate), and presumably a 4th, with zero recognition.
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Like what ? Giga Mac is nice ! Do you want a three star uppercut ?
Address those, not respectful debate.
Being a Kirby fan sure is painful. I'm ok with anything from the new games (specially Robobot)! Be it a new character, a new stage, or even a more varied selection of music. But Sakurai be like: Here's more Super Star stuff, and you'll like it!!
There is no debate. This is for people to share their unpopular opinions, not to debate them. If you can't understand that, leave the thread. If you tryand continue debating, you'll be finding yourself receiving some hefty infractions as you've had a number of warnings on this.
Oh yeah, definitely. I'm happy we finally have a lot of "obvious" choices in the game that had been missing in prior installments, but I'm looking forward to whenever the next game comes out and we see a bunch of new faces as well.
Multiple beat em up hits that ends with a star punch. You could even throw in a bite as a reference to the iconic ear bite technique in boxing.
Hahaha you’re good
I feel this honestly also applies to The Legend of Zelda, though admittedly to a lesser extent. Still, ever since Smash 4, it has always been annoying to see one great potential newcomer after another get the AT treatment. It's annoying.
It's really frustrating to see people argue that Kirby is "fine as it is" with only it's original 3 cast. Like fine how about we trim the remaining roster down to this:
Wolf didn't appear in Starwing, so you can retire him.It's really frustrating to see people argue that Kirby is "fine as it is" with only it's original 3 cast. Like fine how about we trim the remaining roster down to this:
Because now they only feature their original cast, so therefore now they're fine as they are.
I agree and understand how you feel, but if you do that trimming, Meta Knight gets the boot. His entry to the series was Kirby's Adventure, not Dream Land.It's really frustrating to see people argue that Kirby is "fine as it is" with only it's original 3 cast. Like fine how about we trim the remaining roster down to this:
Because now they only feature their original cast, so therefore now they're fine as they are.
Luigi, Bowser, and Peach weren't in Mario's premiere game, either. Even if you don't consider Donkey Kong to be the first Mario series game, Bowser and Peach weren't in Mario Bros.
The thing is most people don't know that. The argument they propose when they say Kirby is "fine as it is" is that the game has its "original trio" when it's obvious they have no idea the series has already expanded beyond its original cast. I'm sure if people knew this the argument that for some damn reason three fighters from the GBA era are fit for one of Nintendo's largest franchises would show up less.
