Unpopular Smash Opinions (BE CIVIL)

[Quillion]

I believe joke characters (in the "intentionally bad" definition) only really work when they're a clone of a deliberately better character so that you're not wasting a unique concept that way. Dan works since he's just another shoto like Ryu and Ken. Melee Pichu works since it's literally baby Pikachu (I admit that I find Ultimate trying to revamp it to be viable is rather baffling).

So would Glass Joe just be Little Mac but with weaker hits? I'd say give Little Mac at least passable aerial and recovery game, then we'll talk.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

I have severe doubts that Nintendo and/or Sakrurai would be interested in a non-viable joke character in Smash given their philosophy about the last few games. Even the rushed nature of Melee makes knowing just how intentional Pichu's lousy status actually was somewhat tricky. Given the sheer amount of work involved to create fighters, I can't blame anyone who looks at the idea of making nonviable characters as a bit odd.

 

[Laniv]

I believe joke characters (in the "intentionally bad" definition) only really work when they're a clone of a deliberately better character so that you're not wasting a unique concept that way. Dan works since he's just another shoto like Ryu and Ken. Melee Pichu works since it's literally baby Pikachu (I admit that I find Ultimate trying to revamp it to be viable is rather baffling).

So would Glass Joe just be Little Mac but with weaker hits? I'd say give Little Mac at least passable aerial and recovery game, then we'll talk.

Precisely. He'd be a Mac clone, inferior in pretty much every way, except Joe would have a decent-ish recovery. Because it's funny.

 

[Quillion]

Precisely. He'd be a Mac clone, inferior in pretty much every way, except Joe would have a decent-ish recovery. Because it's funny.

That would be in line with his Wii version incarnation who's established to never give up despite his weakness, so it works.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Crash Bandicoot is one of my favourite game series of all time, in fact it could be my favourite game series of all time total, but Crash would be an utterly lame Smash fighter, especially with current Smash's obsession with canon powers and references - that damn bazooka doesn't even fit Crash's playstyle in the source material, what makes you think it'd work in Smash?

 

[Lenidem]

Crash Bandicoot is one of my favourite game series of all time, in fact it could be my favourite game series of all time total, but Crash would be an utterly lame Smash fighter, especially with current Smash's obsession with canon powers and references - that damn bazooka doesn't even fit Crash's playstyle in the source material, what makes you think it'd work in Smash?

Well, they don't have to put the bazooka in Smash.

 

[UserKev]

Crash Bandicoot is one of my favourite game series of all time, in fact it could be my favourite game series of all time total, but Crash would be an utterly lame Smash fighter, especially with current Smash's obsession with canon powers and references - that damn bazooka doesn't even fit Crash's playstyle in the source material, what makes you think it'd work in Smash?

I disagree. While Crash may seem like an extremely privileged request, you really can't predict or imagine what Sakurai has up his sleeve. The bazooka could easily go largely ignored like Ridley's pogo tail.

Also the Crash for Smash is one of the greatest puns. Crash just genuinely makes sense for Smash.

 

[Perkilator]

Crash Bandicoot is one of my favourite game series of all time, in fact it could be my favourite game series of all time total, but Crash would be an utterly lame Smash fighter, especially with current Smash's obsession with canon powers and references - that damn bazooka doesn't even fit Crash's playstyle in the source material, what makes you think it'd work in Smash?

You can just make the bazooka either a forward Smash or up Smash.

 

[Demon Dragon]

You can just make the bazooka either a forward Smash or up Smash.

Yeah, like Ganondorf's sword.

 

[UserKev]

I'd have the most fun spamming Crash's down air body slam. His taunts would actually be fun and are easily reusable.

 

[Lenidem]

All this talk reminds be that I have yet to play Crash Bandicoot 3 on the N.Sane Trilogy. (Already "completed" the first two à 102% and 100% respectively.)

 

[Aligo]

If crash is added to smash he should have his shoes fly up whenever he falls off the bottom blastzone (not an unpopular opinion, just had to say it).

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I don't get why people think Smash making a proper turn to "celebration of gaming history" with minimal 1st party content would immediately mean no weird/niche/obscure picks. A lot of the most important games ever made have fallen under the radar and lack any kind of active fandom (pretty much anything from the 70s, a lot of non-Japanese/American regional-exclusives, early games by influential developers, so on), and a lot of the most popular games ever would require a lot of creative legwork for Smash (The Sims. Tetris, racing or sports game of choice, so on), you can absolutely have a high bar for celebrating gaming history while still digging up some weirdo picks. Whether Nintendo would shoot for the Miner Willies and John Maddens in this scenario is another story though,

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

The more I learn about the early years of the video game industry, the more I find myself lamenting that certain companies from the era aren't represented in Smash. While games from the Magnovox Odyssey and Fairchild Channel F might be tricky to really embody in the game given just how simplistic they are, Atari definitely feels like it has enough various titles to be spotlighted. It wouldn't even have to be just releases from the VCS, the different arcade series that it developed could be nicely included via stages or assist trophies with the right idea. While I know its not likely for many reasons as many first party Atari games weren't really on Nintendo arcade machines or home consoles that much (though the Switch release of Atari 50 has technically changed that) and Japan doesn't have the same connection/history with the company like North America does, it would be nice to see one day.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

The more I learn about the early years of the video game industry, the more I find myself lamenting that certain companies from the era aren't represented in Smash. While games from the Magnovox Odyssey and Fairchild Channel F might be tricky to really embody in the game given just how simplistic they are, Atari definitely feels like it has enough various titles to be spotlighted. It wouldn't even have to be just releases from the VCS, the different arcade series that it developed could be nicely included via stages or assist trophies with the right idea. While I know its not likely for many reasons as first party Atari games weren't really on Nintendo arcade machines or home consoles (though the Switch release of Atari 50 has technically changed that) and Japan doesn't have the same connection/history with the company like North America does, it would be nice to see one day.

Most of my biggest Smash wants RN are history picks like this - I'd love to see the UK microcomputer scene represented, I'm not a patriotic guy but something about the micros is so special to me for their unique connection to my home country. Even as someone who's greatly against more Rare content in Smash, I wouldn't mind some Ultimate Play the Game representation (even if I'd prefer Miner Willy or Monty Mole)

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

Most of my biggest Smash wants RN are history picks like this - I'd love to see the UK microcomputer scene represented, I'm not a patriotic guy but something about the micros is so special to me for their unique connection to my home country. Even as someone who's greatly against more Rare content in Smash, I wouldn't mind some Ultimate Play the Game representation (even if I'd prefer Miner Willy or Monty Mole)

The 80s gaming computer scene is another one where's so much history that deserves a few shout outs. We got Fast Food on Switch, so why not have a Dizzy spirit if just as a nod to that particular series' history?

 

[Soy_Man]

The 80s gaming computer scene is another one where's so much history that deserves a few shout outs. We got Fast Food on Switch, so why not have a Dizzy spirit if just as a nod to that particular series' history?

I think it would be cool if they added Guybrush from the Monkey Island series, because point-and-click adventure games don't have any representation in smash. But it would probably never happen.

 

[Perkilator]

The more I learn about the early years of the video game industry, the more I find myself lamenting that certain companies from the era aren't represented in Smash. While games from the Magnovox Odyssey and Fairchild Channel F might be tricky to really embody in the game given just how simplistic they are, Atari definitely feels like it has enough various titles to be spotlighted. It wouldn't even have to be just releases from the VCS, the different arcade series that it developed could be nicely included via stages or assist trophies with the right idea. While I know its not likely for many reasons as many first party Atari games weren't really on Nintendo arcade machines or home consoles that much (though the Switch release of Atari 50 has technically changed that) and Japan doesn't have the same connection/history with the company like North America does, it would be nice to see one day.

Heck, there are plenty of franchises from the 3rd party companies represented in base Ultimate that don’t at least have music or Spirits.