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The Unhappy Thread

Holder of the Heel

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It is my favorite of the Phoenix Wright games definitely. The cases had the best unity, and the ending was the most resolute, a good conclusion to step off from and step onto Apollo Justice (which I intend to get, hopefully soon). But I tell ya, the PW games are clearly characterized by its eccentric characters and style, but the times when it is most powerful and potent is when it gets so... so human. So flawed and imperfect. This game did that in spades, cried in the last case, and the case with Fawles at the end... Straight to the heart, and it hit hard. The only other time that really happened was the Acro and Bat story in the second game, which unfortunately was at the end of an annoying case (seriously, the confession and the tragedy of it, amazing!)

At any rate, Godot sealed his number one spot in my heart most definitely with the fifth case, and the end of the fourth. "These must be... my tears." And, "The only time a lawyer can cry is when it is all over." parts in the last case were great, and the latter also in the fourth. Speechless.
 

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It's so hard to change. I want to be different, so I can make my life better. But I'm just so stuck in my life stagnating ways and mentality I can't seem to break it. Most of the time I don't even care to break it, it's only something I think about when I take a moment to reflect.
 

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Can we ever change? Is it even possible to stay the same?
I'd say there is nothing to change, nor is there anything there to remain the same.

My theory is, the thing we call self is the perceptions we gathered from our senses of the original world to make our own individual world. We don't see it within ourself because our subconscious made it, when it absorbs the millions of data without us knowing it. The closest thing we can get to changing our "self" is changing that world that is unique to you, and you can only use the original world to do that.

When I've thought hard about these beliefs, and how they relate to my life and my problems, I knew to solve it I need to go and try to do something big. I don't even think I have to make it, the journey will probably change my world enough, but while I'm walking that path, you're not going to hear me so no.

There was talk a while back about killing oneself as an answer to the burdening questions of life that make it seem like there is no point. I do agree, there is no point, and there are no answer, I believe. But to me that is the answer. Killing oneself is a denial of that realization, it is to say you have no answer when you wish you did. Anyone who realizes that there are no questions sees the absurdity of killing yourself. From thinking about life I've reached that personal belief, and I've read a little bit of Albert Camus' Myth of Sisyphus that is about the problem of suicide that talks in a similar manner.

I've also noticed a fundamental difference between sadness and joy. I was thinking that reflection was certainly the source of existential suffering, is joy like that as well? At first I thought so, and was disappointed in the problems that are implied by that, the fickle highs and lows that necessarily apply to human existence, are humans naturally so unfit to live? But upon further speculation of it, I think that may be incorrect. Sadness definitely requires that bit of reflection, the proof even lies in someone who has nothing grave about their current state, but nothing to enjoy either, and a sense of empty is constructed artificially purely by that (the thought occurred to me when I saw someone on Facebook say they were sad, and a friend suggested something like, "In order to fix that sadness, you're going to need an equal proportion of happiness." I remember thinking, "Huh... that doesn't seem quite right... what would remain then? Nothing?" Then I see people who go out and have fun, and it seems so much more natural to laugh in reaction to something, it's basically compulsory. Happiness seems to be much more of a reflex, but to shrink from something, it requires something a little more, I think. As if something comes up, like fear, and its nature is to win through glare alone. But contentment, you don't have to try at all when you truly are, but to be discontent, I haven't seen a single case of it without a sense of preponderance, without a bit of measuring, eh?

I know I'm going off on a bit of an uncalled for tangent here, but I'm going to keep rolling with it. Prior to this, I remember thinking what philosophy was, what a philosopher is, and what are their goals. Aren't we all using philosophy, more or less? Raising questions and trying to answer them? So what is the goal, the ultimate state of a philosopher (of all of us, since we all are)? Obviously, it means when we are done raising questions. The ultimate philosophy doesn't need to reflect at the slightest. He lives, almost like what Chinese Taoist philosopher's idealize (except the empty headedness is perhaps a bit extremist, if you get my point). This truth even seems a bit intuitive, I mean, when we here quotes of things like that, that are so simple and plain we stereotypically go, "Ohhh, that sounds so wise!" I think we can strive to be so natural, shedding a lot of suffering, and yet not lose joy. People tend to polarize the idea, and say that without the one we can't have the other, but I've never been found of the concept of opposites, things having a "thisness" and "thatness".

But yeah, my thoughts for those who might care. :embarrass:
 

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Can we ever change? Is it even possible to stay the same?
I'd say there is nothing to change, nor is there anything there to remain the same.

My theory is, the thing we call self is the perceptions we gathered from our senses of the original world to make our own individual world. We don't see it within ourself because our subconscious made it, when it absorbs the millions of data without us knowing it. The closest thing we can get to changing our "self" is changing that world that is unique to you, and you can only use the original world to do that.

When I've thought hard about these beliefs, and how they relate to my life and my problems, I knew to solve it I need to go and try to do something big. I don't even think I have to make it, the journey will probably change my world enough, but while I'm walking that path, you're not going to hear me so no.

There was talk a while back about killing oneself as an answer to the burdening questions of life that make it seem like there is no point. I do agree, there is no point, and there are no answer, I believe. But to me that is the answer. Killing oneself is a denial of that realization, it is to say you have no answer when you wish you did. Anyone who realizes that there are no questions sees the absurdity of killing yourself. From thinking about life I've reached that personal belief, and I've read a little bit of Albert Camus' Myth of Sisyphus that is about the problem of suicide that talks in a similar manner.

I've also noticed a fundamental difference between sadness and joy. I was thinking that reflection was certainly the source of existential suffering, is joy like that as well? At first I thought so, and was disappointed in the problems that are implied by that, the fickle highs and lows that necessarily apply to human existence, are humans naturally so unfit to live? But upon further speculation of it, I think that may be incorrect. Sadness definitely requires that bit of reflection, the proof even lies in someone who has nothing grave about their current state, but nothing to enjoy either, and a sense of empty is constructed artificially purely by that (the thought occurred to me when I saw someone on Facebook say they were sad, and a friend suggested something like, "In order to fix that sadness, you're going to need an equal proportion of happiness." I remember thinking, "Huh... that doesn't seem quite right... what would remain then? Nothing?" Then I see people who go out and have fun, and it seems so much more natural to laugh in reaction to something, it's basically compulsory. Happiness seems to be much more of a reflex, but to shrink from something, it requires something a little more, I think. As if something comes up, like fear, and its nature is to win through glare alone. But contentment, you don't have to try at all when you truly are, but to be discontent, I haven't seen a single case of it without a sense of preponderance, without a bit of measuring, eh?

I know I'm going off on a bit of an uncalled for tangent here, but I'm going to keep rolling with it. Prior to this, I remember thinking what philosophy was, what a philosopher is, and what are their goals. Aren't we all using philosophy, more or less? Raising questions and trying to answer them? So what is the goal, the ultimate state of a philosopher (of all of us, since we all are)? Obviously, it means when we are done raising questions. The ultimate philosophy doesn't need to reflect at the slightest. He lives, almost like what Chinese Taoist philosopher's idealize (except the empty headedness is perhaps a bit extremist, if you get my point). This truth even seems a bit intuitive, I mean, when we here quotes of things like that, that are so simple and plain we stereotypically go, "Ohhh, that sounds so wise!" I think we can strive to be so natural, shedding a lot of suffering, and yet not lose joy. People tend to polarize the idea, and say that without the one we can't have the other, but I've never been found of the concept of opposites, things having a "thisness" and "thatness".

But yeah, my thoughts for those who might care. :embarrass:
First time I've ever really read one of your long posts and I must say it was a good read.

I think you're wrong about the perception of self though, or perhaps your convoluted wording just caused me to misunderstand. I myself have changed so much that sometimes I don't recognize myself anymore. I suppose technically what I am saying is that the characteristics of my personality is unlike what they were before. And I don't like it. Nor do I like the effect it's having on my life. I don't see how anything in my individual world has changed in contrast to the original world.

I have to agree with a lot of what you said about happyness. I think it's just easier to be sad or discontent than it is to be happy. It's probably the cause of living in such a captialist and selfish society. If we didn't have anything we'd be miserable because our life would suck. I would agree that happyness is a reflex because it's created by something else, unlike discontentment, sadness or emptyness which seems from coming from the lack of something. It just seems like a universe law that energy or effort is required for good things to happen. Without heat we would freeze to death. Without light this world would be shrouded darkness. Without things to facilitate happyness(money, friends, goals, etc) we'd be empty. And it just sucks that it's not the other way around. Why can't things in it's innate state just be good enough?

Well whatever. I used to be so reflective even just a year ago, and now I hardly ever reflect at all. It seems that I always have something else to do with my time than to just think. Which as I am writing this now, I realize can't be true. If I would reflect a lot more I'd probably be in a better position in my life. but idk. I guess I just have to keep trying until something works.
 

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Hmm... Well, I don't mean people's behavior and way of thinking can't change, my initial words were a bit cryptic and misleading. So in a sense yeah we can change, and in another sense we can never remain the same. But I think that is because there is no "self" hidden inside the mind, like some arbitrary invisible agent in our heads that we call us. I think we just have our consciousness mull over the sense-datum we have from the world, and in our mind we get ideas and forms of everything, kind of like our subjective world, obviously incomplete and a bit shadowy. You can definitely change, but we have to change that place in your mind, which is you, not a "self", which is you. Unless you just want to call that unique world your self, which is fine. Hope that clears up any confusion, I'm notorious for being awful at getting my point across. .__.;

The point of what I said about happiness and sadness is that the former is emphatically easier to experience in the way it works, it's "process". Perhaps if I had to describe each in a word, they'd be compulsive and impulsive respectively. The reason why it seems you get sadder more easily is because you have an impulse that keeps taking everything badly, like you're basically looking at each glass of water that comes your way, and before simply drinking it, you go, "Oh... it's half empty," so either you don't drink it or the experience of drinking it is greatly undermined. Hope that analogy makes sense. :laugh:

Now, I don't mean to tell you that you have an easier time experience happiness and sadness, I do not mean to tell you how you feel. I just think that the way your self sees things right now is the only reason why the sadness and/or fear creeps in. There are things to do, or things you want to do, and you see what must be done, the effort that must be exhausted, and it may seem just not worth it, or that you can't do it. I can empathize with that experience, honestly I can. Even right now I'm like that. That's why I recognize that I have to deny that part of me, that "self", or else it'd just remain stagnant. I believe, because I'm a materialist/determinist, that things are not going to change unless it is absolutely necessary for them to do it. I'm going to have to put myself at the brink, and end up in a situation where this Holder wouldn't be in. Then a new Holder should develop organically from the inspirations, the situations, and everything from that. The same can be the case for you, then you'll understand the happiness is easier than sadness, and you'll see that the fear/disinterest in exhausting effort to do what you want is something you won't really notice, or let you down anymore, because that Froggy just goes through it naturally, that Froggy can use that energy without much thought and understands the reward is much greater as well.

There is one thing I'll say though, in one sense, we can say sadness is easier. To be discontent is, in a way, far more natural. That is because there are many more ways to be discontent than content, many more forms of sadness than happiness. We can look out and see nothing but sadness and ways to be angry. But it is not real, that is just a fog that makes it seem like everything. In actuality, there is nothing, and in this way, we are unfit for existence. We presuppose that there are ideas, and we build our individual worlds and it clashes with the original one, and we notice they are never the same, it is in their very nature to be different (here I'm kind of taking a skeptical epistemology stance). We get these standards and try to live by them, that is how our brain works, we seek order and patterns. The only thing we can do, I surmise, is that we just understand that the ideas we come up with, purpose, good, bad, love, will (self) etc. they're all a fog that isn't there. We have to understand also that we'll never be able to truly go about our lives without seeing it, it is in our nature to have that fog, but it doesn't have to be in our nature to live blindly under its whim. We can change by recognizing the way things actually work. The better we can get at understanding that the easier it is going to be to be content and feel that compulsive happiness from that. In so far as we are under the control of that fog, though, we're going to feel that discontent.

Ugh I keep typing out a lot, I'm done here.
 

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Just got an e-mail saying I didn't get the part I auditioned for which is sad, but just got to move on I guess for the next audition.
 

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Nickelodeon keeps hurting me by making the new turtles worse and worse

First they used HORRIBLE CGI graphics - I hate CGI cartoons as it is, but the stylization they use these days make it worse

THAN they use fake American anime effects like Teen Titans did

NOW they remixed the original TMNT theme as a terrible rap for it's theme song. I hate most rap as well anyway
 

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Well, I know that every time I've posted in this thread, people looked down on me just because I'm complaining in a thread where you're supposed to do so. That's why I'm so afraid to vent here; People insult me for being depressed. It doesn't make any sense. Well, this time, I won't be afraid.

Basically, what's happening right now is I'm feeling like there is not a single person in this world that likes me. Everybody either ignores me or completely hates on me.

This is why I don't normally post anywhere but the Forum Games. People anywhere else WILL give it their all to try to bring me down. Well, actually, the FG board is kinda like that now too.

I was browsing the User Blogs, for example, and I saw a thread where someone was ignorant of the rules. A simple redirection would have done fine, but someone there was an ******* enough to make a comment directed towards all people with the same condition I have. I will not say what it is, because I am embarrassed about it now.

This person was one of those people who's popular on Smashboards. If it were someone else, I might not have cared, but since this guy was well-respected, he must be in agreement with many other people who also hate people with said psychological disorder.

That's why I feel down right now. If anyone wants to be rude to me this time around in this thread, fine. I'll just let you know ahead of time that I am damn well expecting a rude comment, so you won't surprise me.
 

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I don't dislike you. It may have seemed that way a few times in the FG's but that was in the your banned thread. I'm sorry that you feel that way, there are a few people there that don't seem completely nice. I'm not going to ask what condition you have, but I feel for ya. Hope you can feel better.
 

#HBC | J

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Well if it's any consolation, I don't hate/dislike you because I don't know you at all. c:

I hope everything gets better for you dude.
 

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Well, I know that every time I've posted in this thread, people looked down on me just because I'm complaining in a thread where you're supposed to do so. That's why I'm so afraid to vent here; People insult me for being depressed. It doesn't make any sense. Well, this time, I won't be afraid.

Basically, what's happening right now is I'm feeling like there is not a single person in this world that likes me. Everybody either ignores me or completely hates on me.

This is why I don't normally post anywhere but the Forum Games. People anywhere else WILL give it their all to try to bring me down. Well, actually, the FG board is kinda like that now too.

I was browsing the User Blogs, for example, and I saw a thread where someone was ignorant of the rules. A simple redirection would have done fine, but someone there was an ******* enough to make a comment directed towards all people with the same condition I have. I will not say what it is, because I am embarrassed about it now.

This person was one of those people who's popular on Smashboards. If it were someone else, I might not have cared, but since this guy was well-respected, he must be in agreement with many other people who also hate people with said psychological disorder.

That's why I feel down right now. If anyone wants to be rude to me this time around in this thread, fine. I'll just let you know ahead of time that I am damn well expecting a rude comment, so you won't surprise me.
Thas not trueeee
We like you c:
That part is true~
A lot of us in this thread are pleasant people who have open ears and open minds, so don't let any bad apples getcha down~

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I'm unhappy because I'm awake
Been awake since 6:30
I just wanna sleeeeeeep
Sigh, babysitting

:phone:
 

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Sly Fox you have a tendency to think people are being rude to you or dislike you when that isn't the case.

That's all I'm going to say about that.

 

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Well, I know that every time I've posted in this thread, people looked down on me just because I'm complaining in a thread where you're supposed to do so. That's why I'm so afraid to vent here; People insult me for being depressed. It doesn't make any sense. Well, this time, I won't be afraid.

Basically, what's happening right now is I'm feeling like there is not a single person in this world that likes me. Everybody either ignores me or completely hates on me.

This is why I don't normally post anywhere but the Forum Games. People anywhere else WILL give it their all to try to bring me down. Well, actually, the FG board is kinda like that now too.

I was browsing the User Blogs, for example, and I saw a thread where someone was ignorant of the rules. A simple redirection would have done fine, but someone there was an ******* enough to make a comment directed towards all people with the same condition I have. I will not say what it is, because I am embarrassed about it now.

This person was one of those people who's popular on Smashboards. If it were someone else, I might not have cared, but since this guy was well-respected, he must be in agreement with many other people who also hate people with said psychological disorder.

That's why I feel down right now. If anyone wants to be rude to me this time around in this thread, fine. I'll just let you know ahead of time that I am damn well expecting a rude comment, so you won't surprise me.
A lot of people on these boards are jerks. They are very clicky, and will be *******s and defend each other even when the other person is clearly wrong. I think if you're intention to come on boards is to make friends then you're not going to e very successful.

And are you sure people hate you? I've actually done a fair job of having some people dislike me but I don't let it bother me. And it's not as if I find it harder to get into conversations with other people because of it. I think you're worrying too much, try to relax.

And if someone is making fun of a psychological disorder then you should report them. I think there is a no discriminatory policy on these boards. I could be wrong about that though.
 

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I hate ebay.

First they say my username is incorrect, so I go to "Forgot username" and get it.

Than they say my password is incorrect, so I got to "Forgot password" to get a new one.

Than they say I haven't completed registration, which is completely untrue since I have bought many things from the site before, but whatever I try and resolve that by going to "Resend confirmation email"

- It has technical difficulties and cannot send the email.

WTF!!!
 

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Turns out the reason my ex broke up with me was cause he was cheating on me again, except with someone IRL this time. He was also posting very selective parts of chat logs to any of my friends online he could get in contact with to try to turn them against me, but some of them asked me if they could see the full chat logs so I showed them and they defended me. But I'm going to move on and forget him once he stops internet stalking me. Also, he's the same person who posted in this thread several months ago when he cheated on me the first time. I was just stupid in thinking he wouldn't cheat a 2nd time, except this time he was a LOT more rude about it.

In other news, my mom is now at the point where she has jaundice because her liver is starting to fail from the cancer.

But I'd also like to say that I'm glad I do have some really good friends helping me out through this, half of which are people who frequent this thread.


:059:
 

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You know what's sad? The unhappy thread has a lot more posts than the happy thread. I'm sure that's been pointed out before, but I think it's significant in a way.
 

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It's easier to think of things to complain about than things to be happy about. Also this thread involves a lot more consoling and the like, whereas in the happy thread there isn't really a need for anything like that, aside from things like "good job" or "congrats". But yeah kinda sucks, life is good, people should be happy.
 

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Just got back from my boyfriend's house.....I'd usually be happy, but he was so out of it when I left (no, not because I was leaving)

He's going through a tough time and blaming himself for stuff that isn't a big deal or his fault sometimes

And I just feel like I'm not doing enough for him : ( I hate to see him like that, but I don't feel like I'm doing enough to make him feel better or to at least be a little happier : ( one of the worst feelings in the world.

:phone:
 

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It's easier to think of things to complain about than things to be happy about. Also this thread involves a lot more consoling and the like, whereas in the happy thread there isn't really a need for anything like that, aside from things like "good job" or "congrats". But yeah kinda sucks, life is good, people should be happy.
pfffft that's a good one
 

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You work your life to find worth in it. Than when you stop, it's because your so old people consider you worthless. Than you die
 

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KRD, I haven't been on aim lately because I've been dealing with my own family stuff too. But if you still want to talk, just message me.
 

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It really bugs me when people say "life is good stop complaining"

it also bugs me when people say "life is terrible so whats the point"

life isn't only "good" or "bad" at any one point. It's a constant flux of good and bad, strange and familiar, exciting and boring.

I personally think that there is very little appeal to living, but that I have to go on and struggle until it's time for me to end because what else is there? I can't make that leap to saying that all of life is defined by either "goodness" or "badness". Life, whatever it is, is all we have, who cares if it's not all happiness and sunshine? Happiness is overrated. Who dedicates their lives to staying in the sunshine all the time?
 

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The thing that keeps me going, even during the bleakest of moments in my life, is my desire to see how society and technology evolves. My only complaint is not being able to live forever to witness it all the way through.
 

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It really bugs me when people say "life is good stop complaining"

it also bugs me when people say "life is terrible so whats the point"

life isn't only "good" or "bad" at any one point. It's a constant flux of good and bad, strange and familiar, exciting and boring.

I personally think that there is very little appeal to living, but that I have to go on and struggle until it's time for me to end because what else is there? I can't make that leap to saying that all of life is defined by either "goodness" or "badness". Life, whatever it is, is all we have, who cares if it's not all happiness and sunshine? Happiness is overrated. Who dedicates their lives to staying in the sunshine all the time?
I love this post, LT. I couldn't agree with you more.

Smooth Criminal
 

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Constant unnecessary drama really annoys me. (it's no one here, I always have sympathy for real issues) Ugg, some people just need to deal with petty things better and grow up.
 

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It really bugs me when people say "life is good stop complaining"

it also bugs me when people say "life is terrible so whats the point"

life isn't only "good" or "bad" at any one point. It's a constant flux of good and bad, strange and familiar, exciting and boring.

I personally think that there is very little appeal to living, but that I have to go on and struggle until it's time for me to end because what else is there? I can't make that leap to saying that all of life is defined by either "goodness" or "badness". Life, whatever it is, is all we have, who cares if it's not all happiness and sunshine? Happiness is overrated. Who dedicates their lives to staying in the sunshine all the time?
I agree that there's plenty of things to complain about in everyone's life, some more than others, and that life obviously has ups and downs, but as far as attitude goes I see no reason to be pessimistic about life. You have your meaning of life figured out in your mind, which I respect, but I disagree. Life becomes exponentially worse when people complain constantly and wallow in their own sorrow, and it becomes exponentially better, in my opinion, when people have a more positive outlook and appreciate the earth around them. What I'm saying may seem naive, but I personally find it much easier to get through life when I stay positive and accept negative things that occur in my life as just **** that happens and will continue to happen. Granted, my life hasn't been very difficult relatively, but I think my point applies to more than just my life.
 

Jasou

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I'm unhappy because I got to spend 3 hours chiseling cement on one of my first days off work/study, courtesy of my cousins. We ended up finding out that it was infact them who glued a **** made of pennies on our front sidewalk. The part that really frustrates me is that their parents knew this and claimed it was a "joke" which made my parents infuriated(it frustrates me as well). Then when my parents told him to tell his kids to clean it he just ignored us. I'm just pissed that my cousins on my dad's side are evil. I hate them with all my guts and I can't even believe i'm calling them relatives..... Their parents are horrible at parenting and should be ashamed of themselves and their kids have grown up to be horrible people. (aside from this incident, they have been really mean to me in the past)

and now I have blisters all over my hands from the job, along with part of our front sidewalk being beaten up because we could not get it off in a different way.
 

ShroudedOne

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Glue pennies to their foreheads. The pain involved in removing them should equal out to the pain of having to pull pennies out of the sidewalk (I have no idea why you had to do it, that's stupid).

And I finally threw my controller today. I guess I'm not able to control my emotions like I thought. :(
 

Jasou

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Well, my frustration is towards my cousins. My dad asked me to do it because he thought it would be more embarrassing for him to do it which is true and he asked me personally if I could. In the end someone would have to waste their time on it, i'm just frustrated it happened in the first place and that their parents didn't force them to clean it up.

I'm considering spitting in their drinks one day. I wish I could glue pennies somewhere on their property, but I don't think it would end well.
 

SuperBowser

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jolly old england. hohoho.
12 hour day, 13 hour day, 14 hour day. getting paid for 9 hours.

i'm supposed to keep this up for 4 months :laugh:. i was actually laughing hysterically on my way home last night with my work partner because this job is so ridiculous. we were meant to go to a work party at 6pm. our ward round started at 6:30pm.
 

#HBC | J

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I just got a call right now saying that my little sister is in the hospital with 2 IVs in her and she could possibly have appendicitis.

Edit: Update, it's not appendicits but she is still really sick and they don't know what's wrong atm. They are going to keep her all day/till tomorrow.
 
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