The Official Yoshi FAQ/Q&A Thread -- [Please look here before posting!]

[Scatz]

Alright so...about DR..Ive changed the controls to where X is Special & B is Jump & I love it! I cant go back to default, but Im still havin trouble with DR!! I Press Y and flick my thumb to press B and have my Thumb flick off the C stick. So im Pressing/Flicking " Y, B, C Stick " Really fast but its not working..What I end up doing is a D-Jump then D-Air Or a Fair.

This is REALLY hard & Ive been doing this for like 2 Weeks...What does DR do & what should it look like?

NE1 wanna show me DR??

FC is 5284-9833-9330, dont need a match, just a guide on DR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVEyqPXbn8w

 

[AfRo ToAd]

If I gotta flick it THAT fast then is it really worth it?? Does it help you out in a match alot cuz I know alot of advanced yoshi techs..except this one.

 

[AfRo ToAd]

Z'zganshi I hear your a pro Yoshi, do you play online??

 

[Sinister Slush]

I don't even USE YBC and I can do DR perfectly fine in tourney matches with YYA. My set up is close to yours with X being Special and B jump. But I have R as special as well.

Y+R for basically ETS on platforms that're wavebounced or just doing it on stage.
As for B+X that's for Off stage since whenever I tried R for offstage egg camping I always did Eggroll or just Neutral B.

 

[phi1ny3]

So, Yoshi air release -> spike...

It works on MK, so what's the biggest underlying issues with it, preventing it from being used by top yoshis? Need some clarification

Edit: aside from mashing, that one's pretty clear.

edit: found out it doesn't work on MK in the first place, never mind

 

[Yikarur]

good job :0

 

[phi1ny3]

So, it works on Squirtle, Falco, and...

mostly bad characters aside from that?

 

[Yikarur]

you're wrong with Falco.
but it works on Squirtle and Sheik.

 

[phi1ny3]

Oh, it doesn't even work on Falco, even with a little "buffering" magic?

 

[Delta-cod]

I'm pretty sure it works on Falco. If not off of guaranteed frame data, then off of the fact that it covers most of Falco's conventional options for recovering off of release.

 

[Z'zgashi]

GR > Egg lay works on falco. Doing that on the right ledge of Frigate is godly btw

 

[Scatz]

So, Yoshi air release -> spike...

It works on MK, so what's the biggest underlying issues with it, preventing it from being used by top yoshis? Need some clarification

Edit: aside from mashing, that one's pretty clear.

edit: found out it doesn't work on MK in the first place, never mind

Only works on Squirtle and Sheik.

Squirtle, Ganon, and Lucas get hit with DR Fsmash from release. MK would be on the list if he didn't have a 3 frame airdodge.

Falco and Wolf only allow egglay to connect.

There's other stuff, but much more situational.

 

[Sharky]

so it's only the airdodge that prevents it with mk? nobody airdodges the cg, we should totally take advantage of this lol

 

[Z'zgashi]

Cant they shuttle loop it due to the invinsibility frames?

 

[Scatz]

They're over the ledge when you can do it (dunno the specific placement off my head). Air SL doesn't have invinci frames, and you have to be practically frame perfect to force only an airdodge from grab release (which then, he can airdodge cause of his 3 frame startup).

 

[phi1ny3]

Shuttle loop doesn't have invincibility when it's in the air (fortunately), only the grounded version does.

lol disregard post

 

[Yikarur]

you're too slow :0

 

[Z'zgashi]

regardless it's still a godly move

 

[Yikarur]

May I introduce:

Yoshis upair disjointness!

 

[Poltergust]

Heh, I already knew it was very disjointed. I've even directly beaten Dedede's d-air on more than one occasion. >.>

 

[Yikarur]

Yeah we all know, this pic shows the exact length of disjointness because they trade hits the frame after.

 

[Poltergust]

Trade hits? I thought Yoshi's u-air hitbox only lasted one frame...?

EDIT: It appears that I was wrong. It lasts for two frames.

 

[Yikarur]

uair hitbox lasts frame 5-6, 2 frames there is no hitbox in this game that is out for only one frame afaik. (maybe rest because that was the case in melee but idk)

 

[Black Mantis]

How do snake and yoshi work together in teams?

 

[Depster]

It's a pretty fun team, actually. I play it a lot at Smashfests, but I'm going to be honest and say I can't remember how it actually works...

 

[Z'zgashi]

Ummm... They both go balls out and try not to hit each other? I have actually never team with a good snake, and there's like, 3 of them in my state O.o

 

[F A N G]

Do you guys have a hitbox video/thread?

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

We do not. We need one though.

 

[Airborne]

Do you guys have a hitbox video/thread?

We can apparently not determine our hitbubbles correctly because there's some glitch in the coding or something where the hitbubbles for Yoshi's tail moves grow infinitely large due to the swelling of his tail during the the animation. And yet, older people around still keep asking for them when Eternal Yoshi told them about 4 consecutive times... -____-;

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

How do snake and yoshi work together in teams?

Snake Ducks and Yoshi Throws eggs over him. Snake then proceeds to Tilt anything that gets in the way of that : D. Idk that was just some silly gimmick. Also if snake is stale, we can egglay him to give him back his freshness

 

[F A N G]

We can apparently not determine our hitbubbles correctly because there's some glitch in the coding or something where the hitbubbles for Yoshi's tail moves grow infinitely large due to the swelling of his tail during the the animation. And yet, older people around still keep asking for them when Eternal Yoshi told them about 4 consecutive times... -____-;

Thanks, that sounds extremely strange...

Snake Ducks and Yoshi Throws eggs over him. Snake then proceeds to Tilt anything that gets in the way of that : D. Idk that was just some silly gimmick. Also if snake is stale, we can egglay him to give him back his freshness

Why does Egg Lay freshify Snake's move?

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

apparently egglay resets move staleness, so he starts fresh

 

[F-Tier Player]

Interesting, gotta try that out. How does Yoshi refresh his moves?

 

[Poltergust]

apparently egglay resets move staleness, so he starts fresh

Huh? Are you sure about that? This is the first time I've heard of this.

 

[Yikarur]

lol egg lay would be close to useless when this would be true, but fortunately it isn't.

 

[AfRo ToAd]

Still having trouble with DR...changed my controls to "X" = Special and "B" jump....and whoever does DR with Yoshi...can you do it with Sheer Will or does it take a few trys, i only did it like....4 times in the past 2 months xD

 

[Z'zgashi]

It takes a lot of practice, so just keep working at it. I can pull it off 90% of the time, but even with all of my experience with it I still occasionally mess up. Just keep working at it and practicing and you'll get it down eventually.

 

[Scatz]

Check this thread in 2 hours Afro. I got what should help you at my house, but I'm currently in class

 

[Sinister Slush]

Still having trouble with DR...changed my controls to "X" = Special and "B" jump....and whoever does DR with Yoshi...can you do it with Sheer Will or does it take a few trys, i only did it like....4 times in the past 2 months xD

My controls are close to what you use.
X Special > B Jump. But what's different is R for Special.

I noticed whenever I tried DJC Egglay for Y+X It seemed to have different inputs and made me mess up Reverse Egglays off stage. So I tried R For special and it was fine.
For DR I really cannot figure out how the other Yoshi mains get YBC down so easily so I go with YYA which helps me quite alot. Along with getting Ledge DR timing right with YYA; that's basically how I got my timing down for DR with YYA and I find this method much easier outside of doing YBC.

 

[Scatz]

Afro and Slush, watch this if you're having problems with DR. I notify the problems and explain how to get rid of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVEyqPXbn8w